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Bubonic plague hits LA
Herald Sun ^ | 19 April 2006

Posted on 04/18/2006 4:34:55 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

A CASE of bubonic plague has been reported in the second largest US city, Los Angeles, for the first time in 22 years, health officials said today.

An unidentified woman came down last week with symptoms of the disease, known as the Black Death, when it devastatingly swept across Europe in the 14th century. Health officials said they believed the infected woman, who remains in hospital, was exposed to fleas in the area around her house and stressed it was unlikely the rare disease would spread.

"Bubonic plague is not usually transmissible from person to person," Jonathan Fielding, head of Los Angeles County public health, said.

Mr Fielding explained the disease is not uncommon among animals such as squirrels but seldom spreads to humans.

"Fortunately, human plague infection is rare in urban environments, and this single case should not be a cause for alarm in the area where this occurred," he said.

Health officials investigating the source of the disease set traps to catch squirrels and other wild animals in the area near where the woman lives.

Blood tests will be performed on any animals caught to determine if they were exposed to the plague bacteria.

Plague symptoms include fever, muscle aches, nausea, headache, sore throat, fatigue and swollen, tender lymph nodes associated with the arm or leg that has flea bites.

The disease is treatable with antibiotics, medical experts said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: allthankstoillegals; bubonicplague; la; rats
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To: TheLion
"Fleas spread it from rodents to humans and then humans spread it like wildfire."

As I recall it went Pneumonic and the aerosol, blood, and sputum in the air caused human to human infections. Rapidly.
51 posted on 04/18/2006 6:14:29 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: coydog
Heh, they call prairie dogs "plague bunnies".

As with all things California, there are "cute" rodents and "icky" rodents.

The cute ones are protected, while the icky ones are exterminated.

Unfortunately, they're all a variation of rat, and rats do what rats do.

This insanity has spread to my neighborhood, along with a similar influx of California expatriates.

Cute rodents also attract predators, which attract larger predators, which eventually eat the spandex-clad.

It all works out eventually.

52 posted on 04/18/2006 6:16:25 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Billthedrill
usually the patient does fine. Unless they die.

Quoted without further comment...

53 posted on 04/18/2006 6:19:07 PM PDT by null and void (Pay no attention to the imam behind the curtain...)
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To: blam
I've seen some 'experts' say recently that they believe at least two agents were at work during the Black Death

There are a number of microbiologists [like me] who believe that the misnamed "Spanish" flu of 1918-1920 was also caused by at least two agents.

54 posted on 04/18/2006 6:23:48 PM PDT by curmudgeonII (One man...and the Lord...are a majority.)
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To: TheLion

True, but the book I read said that the people were so dirty at that time that they often had rat fleas as well as human fleas. Also discussed the pneumonic transmission, air-borne.


55 posted on 04/18/2006 6:24:56 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Although You're invisible, I trust the Unseen.")
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To: Publius6961; Old_Mil; putupjob; B.O. Plenty; Roverman2K
Or too many illegals.
Whether they are from Mexico (most likely) or Asia, it is certain to be an illegal.
~ Publius6961

Nope. It's caused by too many illegal aliens illegally aliening from places with too many rats. ~ Old_Mil

Yet another way America is celebrating diversity.
We need more guest workers.
~ putupjob

Well....what the heck....nobody has placed the blame so far, so I guess I have to....

It's Bush's fault... ~ B.O. Plenty

Correct, just another benefit from uncontrolled Chinese and south American illegals. This is why in the old days the sceened everyone. Why are we slipping back in time. ~ Roverman2K

*gentle cough*

Actually plague first came to the United States in the 1850's. The rail companies were legally importing Chinese coolies to work on the transcontinental railway.

There was a small plague outbreak in San Fransisco's Chinatown district. An alert doctor spotted the outbreak almost immediately, and appealed to the city council to institute a quarantine and rat catching program.

The town fathers refused to believe there was plague in their fair city.

They screwed around long enough for it to infect the local ground squirrel population where there was no hope stopping it from spreading. Thanks to their inaction, now one can be exposed to plague anywhere in the western US.

Any parallels one wishes to draw with a more recent "gay plague" are left to the reader as an exercise.

Those who do not learn the lessons of the past...

56 posted on 04/18/2006 6:41:13 PM PDT by null and void (Pay no attention to the imam behind the curtain...)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
LA needs more viking kitties.

More cats, for sure! I could say a lot about this, but let me just emphasize that large cat populations really do lead to a low flea population.

Fleas are the main 'transmission vector' for boubonic plague, and a several other bad afflictions. The big base population of fleas live on rats, mice, moles, squirrels, et cetera. Vermin. Cats despise vermin in love to destroy them. Waterbugs, moths, anything. They sometimes get a lizard or some kind of bird or nice butterfly, but the big trend is to kill vermin.

Most cats kill any fleas that get on them, provided the base flea population is reasonably low, as it will be without vermin around to nourish them.

Any outside cat, especially one who is a prolific mouser, should be treated regularly for worms. A small price to pay.

57 posted on 04/18/2006 6:46:43 PM PDT by Yeti ("He might be drunk!")
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To: Aussie Dasher

That should thin the horde.......


58 posted on 04/18/2006 6:48:03 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Tax-chick

In Albuquerque NM I was at a park trail on the outskirts. There I saw a warning sign that said to aavoid rodents and the like as they sometimes carried the bubonic plauge.

I always figured that wasn't unique to Albuquerque and must be common across the southwest.


59 posted on 04/18/2006 6:51:12 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Jaysun; DocRock
Go S.O.T.A. Top of the line CS maker, IMO, which produces the highest quality and most consistent batches; magnetic pulsers, blood purifiers (dual-electrode wrist strap), and other gadgets of interest. Sold for experimental purposes only, of course.

I've read where some use a nebulizer and CS. FWIW.

60 posted on 04/18/2006 6:53:45 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: michigander

heheheheeeeee!!


61 posted on 04/18/2006 6:56:22 PM PDT by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify.)
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To: Tax-chick
I surfed upon a Discovery show on survival. It was in some sort of US desert canyon. The host set traps of
flat stones hoping to get something, which turned out to be some type of prairie dog, iirc.

"You want to cook it thoroughly since they do carry bubonic plague..."

62 posted on 04/18/2006 7:02:38 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Aussie Dasher

LA's been hit with boob-onic plague for years....

63 posted on 04/18/2006 7:02:53 PM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: Calvin Locke; festus

They never warned us about plague with prairie dogs in Oklahoma, so it might be regional infections. Makes me worry sometimes about my daughter's pet gerbil, though :-).


64 posted on 04/18/2006 7:11:22 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Although You're invisible, I trust the Unseen.")
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To: Aussie Dasher
Cordon the area off, Residents Que up in single file, Illegals are immediately Quarantined implanted with a chip and then sent to Country of Origin for Treatment without the possibility of ever returning, all others treated, then fumigate the City.

Those that don't Que up Die or are turned in.
Don't ever Elect me for ANY Public Office, I will run it like a Farm or a Ranch, (cull, ship/sell, and propagate)
WIN WIN WIN
65 posted on 04/18/2006 7:19:48 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Aussie Dasher
By coincidence, tonights episode of "House" showed a girl that was almost surely dead because she caught the plague from her dog's fleas.

I wouldn't want to die that way.

sw

66 posted on 04/18/2006 7:20:02 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Mannaggia l'America

Dang. That ipod ain't going to fall out anytime soon.....


67 posted on 04/18/2006 7:20:10 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Can you believe Califoreignia infested with RATS? who'da thunkit?


68 posted on 04/18/2006 7:26:21 PM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: festus
>>>>"Dang. That ipod ain't going to fall out anytime soon....."<<<<

If it did, I'm not gonna touch it. That thing gives cooties a bad name and there isn't enough Latex on the Planet to make me change my mind.

TT
69 posted on 04/18/2006 7:40:44 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Eastbound
Go S.O.T.A.

South of Tuscon Arizona? That's Chinese to me.

I've read where some use a nebulizer and CS. FWIW.

I use a nasal spray bottle. Simply drinking it has little effect unless you hold it in your mouth for a while.
70 posted on 04/18/2006 7:57:42 PM PDT by Jaysun (If anything is possible, then it's possible that nothing is possible.)
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To: Yeti
More cats, for sure! I could say a lot about this, but let me just emphasize that large cat populations really do lead to a low flea population.

LOL forget the cats send in the real experts in the field. No cat can touch this fine dogs kill ratio. The Rat Terrier or Feist is the master of the art. They make very fine pets also and are great with kids :>}

71 posted on 04/18/2006 7:58:05 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: Jaysun
South of Tucson. Heh. That's good.

Guess I shoulda been more clear. I haven't purchased anything for a few years, so I checked out their site again just a bit ago and was surprised to see they re-vamped and re-engineered everything they used to sell. Can't vouch for anything they have now, but wouldn't hesitate getting some of their stuff if I had a need. Yeah, it''s expensive. Interesting offerings. Here's the link:

SOTA

72 posted on 04/18/2006 8:15:58 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: festus
"Dang. That ipod ain't going to fall out anytime soon....."

What ipod?

;>

73 posted on 04/18/2006 8:18:33 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Aussie Dasher
An unidentified woman came down last week with symptoms of the disease, known as the Black Death, when it devastatingly swept across Europe in the 14th century. Health officials said they believed the infected woman, who remains in hospital, was exposed to fleas in the area around her house and stressed it was unlikely the rare disease would spread.

100 to one odds she is an illegal.

74 posted on 04/18/2006 8:19:35 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Every man must be tempted, sometimes,to hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Right. Another interesting theory is that in parallel with the microbial epidemic, a lot of people were suffering from a form of rye ergot poisoning. Ergot is a fungus that contains various toxins, including mind-altering lysergic acid (from which LSD is derived). Prolonged consumption of ergot-contaminated rye would cause ergotism, a disease with symptoms similar to the plague, including a form of gangrene. Also, ergot weakens the immune system. People with ergotism and a weakened immune system would be more likely to catch whatever infectious disease are floating around.

The year of the Great Plague started with a wet spring, with is ideal for development of ergot. And since rye was a staple food, it's not hard to see a connection.

75 posted on 04/18/2006 8:20:20 PM PDT by FrogBurger
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To: Yeti
Most cats kill any fleas that get on them, provided the base flea population is reasonably low

How ?

76 posted on 04/18/2006 8:24:21 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Every man must be tempted, sometimes,to hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.)
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To: mewzilla

LOL.


77 posted on 04/18/2006 8:26:46 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Aussie Dasher

A consequence of illegal immigration, I wonder?


78 posted on 04/18/2006 8:27:39 PM PDT by Theo
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To: Aussie Dasher

Was she messing around with rodents, or something?


79 posted on 04/18/2006 8:27:50 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: nmh

*sigh* I just did something I've never done before. I stomped a rat to death in my own front yard. YUCK!

First one I've seen here. Hope it's my last.


80 posted on 04/18/2006 8:33:50 PM PDT by null and void (Pay no attention to the imam behind the curtain...)
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To: Eastbound
Thanks for the link. I'm going to try an old "electro-sage" (small home electric shock massager, similar to a TENS machine) that we have laying around to make CS. With it I think I can control the current/voltage and make it pulsate (or not). It also uses a 9v battery. If it doesn't work I'll consider buying from our friends at South of Tucson AZ.

Thanks again.
81 posted on 04/18/2006 8:47:13 PM PDT by Jaysun (If anything is possible, then it's possible that nothing is possible.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Can never have too many rats if it's sage rats you're hunting.

I got the vaccination for plague. I've kept my shot cards just to keep track of all the weird things I was vaccinated for.

I have a vaccination with the seal of Thailand. I was third mate on a ship that was required for everyone on the ship to be vaccinated. I was told to gather the crew for the shots. I looked at the 10 new needles on the table and asked for my vaccination first. We were a crew of 43.


82 posted on 04/18/2006 9:01:21 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: null and void
*sigh* I just did something I've never done before. I stomped a rat to death in my own front yard. YUCK!

First one I've seen here. Hope it's my last.


God almighty! How'd you manage to step on it before it got away? Did you surprise it while it was on the phone or something?

When we lived in Texas I killed rats in our barn with a .22 loaded with "snake shot". Maybe you can use a little revolver full of these next time.


83 posted on 04/18/2006 9:03:44 PM PDT by Jaysun (If anything is possible, then it's possible that nothing is possible.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
the infected woman, who remains in hospital, was exposed to fleas in the area around her house and stressed it was unlikely the rare disease would spread.

So ... they're saying ... they killed every single last Bubonic-plague-laced flea before it jumped away?

84 posted on 04/18/2006 9:04:58 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

bfl


85 posted on 04/18/2006 9:09:34 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Jaysun
God almighty! How'd you manage to step on it before it got away? Did you surprise it while it was on the phone or something?

For a 280 lb guy I can move very stealthily. He thought I didn't know he was in the California Poppies. He was wrong.

When we lived in Texas I killed rats in our barn with a .22 loaded with "snake shot". Maybe you can use a little revolver full of these next time.

I'm in the fringe of the downtown district, on a main drag. I thought about using my .45, but figured it would annoy the neighbors...

86 posted on 04/18/2006 9:15:33 PM PDT by null and void (Pay no attention to the imam behind the curtain...)
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To: Eastbound; Jaysun

I have a digital generator that shuts off at 5 parts per million. I've already had to replace the 1 oz. silver bar I've made so many gallons.


87 posted on 04/19/2006 5:12:22 AM PDT by DocRock
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To: DocRock
I have a digital generator that shuts off at 5 parts per million. I've already had to replace the 1 oz. silver bar I've made so many gallons.

Where does one obtain pure silver, other than ordering it? I looked for the "wire" that everyone talks about to no avail and ended up buying bullion from a jeweler.
88 posted on 04/19/2006 9:03:50 PM PDT by Jaysun (If anything is possible, then it's possible that nothing is possible.)
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To: Centurion2000
How?

Biting.

89 posted on 04/20/2006 3:23:21 AM PDT by Yeti ("He might be drunk!")
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To: Aussie Dasher

A single case, but if you only read the headline you'd think it's an epidemic.


90 posted on 04/20/2006 3:34:09 AM PDT by kalee
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To: Jaysun

Don't take someone's word that you are getting "pure" silver. Buy a Canadian Maple Leaf silver coin. They are assayed at the mint and they are the purest silver you can purchase. .9999 fine


91 posted on 04/20/2006 6:15:30 AM PDT by DocRock
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To: Aussie Dasher

Not too surprising. Both Los Angeles and Albuquerque have large rodent populations in their surroundings. Plague is endemic in the wild rodent population. That's why New Mexico's slogan is:

Land of the Flea, Home of the Plague.


92 posted on 04/20/2006 6:28:51 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Tax-chick

Rat fleas are happy to jump on a human in the absence of a rat. Same with dog fleas and cat fleas.


93 posted on 04/20/2006 12:52:53 PM PDT by Flavius Josephus (Nationalism is not a crime.)
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To: Centurion2000

Of course she's an illegal. If she wasn't an illegal, she would have been identified. Sacred cow, ya know?


94 posted on 04/20/2006 12:58:34 PM PDT by Flavius Josephus (Nationalism is not a crime.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

ILLEGALS


95 posted on 04/20/2006 1:14:47 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Jaysun
colloidal silver

Our favorite snake oil

96 posted on 04/20/2006 1:16:37 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Flavius Josephus

Yuck.


97 posted on 04/20/2006 1:17:48 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Although You're invisible, I trust the Unseen.")
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To: Aussie Dasher
Bubonic plague hits LA

Jonathan Fielding, head of Los Angeles County public health, said.

Mr Fielding explained the disease is not uncommon among animals such as squirrels but seldom spreads to humans.

Except when the fleas arrive by "coyote" !

98 posted on 04/20/2006 1:28:47 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Hosea 6:6 For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings)
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To: Tax-chick

Yeah, it seems that it's a preference, not a requirement. I was surprised that there even WAS a type of flea dedicated to humans. This is reminding me I have to go pick up some more Advantage for my cat soon. I've been letting her out more, and she's getting them -- I found one on me last night.


99 posted on 04/20/2006 2:04:34 PM PDT by Flavius Josephus (Nationalism is not a crime.)
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To: Flavius Josephus

We had that problem with our cat a few times.


100 posted on 04/20/2006 2:08:00 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("That would be the camel's nose under the mouse.")
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