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Bush Says Little Can Be Done About High Gas Prices
Sierra Times ^ | 4/22/2006 | AP Staff

Posted on 04/24/2006 4:59:57 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy

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To: FerdieMurphy

Drilling is not the issue.

Refinery capacity is.


221 posted on 04/24/2006 8:32:49 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: texastoo
I remember when ol man Bush (HW) said Americans should pay $4.50 to $5.00 a gallon just like the Europeans. His dream is now coming true.

When, exactly, did he say this?

222 posted on 04/24/2006 8:33:15 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Bikers4Bush
We truly are between a rock and a hard spot.

We're between a liberal president who calls himself a compasionate "conservative" (and, as we all know this tag means the wearer stands for nothing)and democrat candidates who are unapologetically marxists!

Bring on the revolution. This is a lot more important than a tea tax. We, citizens and taxpayers, are already housing the enemy. They live in tony Georgetown digs with a fat expense account and a sea of coolies to staple their foolish legislation and vapid speeches.

223 posted on 04/24/2006 8:33:17 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: glockmeister40
Saying there is little he can do just pisses people off.

Yeah, being told the truth generally pisses people off.

224 posted on 04/24/2006 8:34:00 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: FerdieMurphy

E-85 is code for Federal Government Bail out for GM.


225 posted on 04/24/2006 8:35:03 AM PDT by Kokojmudd (Outsource GM to a Red State! Put Walmart in charge of all Federal agencies!)
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To: barnswallow

First, I don't regard Bill O'Reilly as a conservative. He is eccentric, imho. His rants on gasoline prices are irresponsible demagogery. He so infuriates me that I literally cancelled my TV. Media could do a lot to educate consumers as to the power they have. Changes in consumer behavior are a powerful force. Instead most appeal to emotions to get ratings from people acting like babies who don't want to face reality. There are huge changes going on, and when people get with the program, it will be better.


226 posted on 04/24/2006 8:37:23 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

You don't say? Odd how the gas prices around me jump whether there's a refinery issue or price per barrel issue.

They are both a problem but cheaper costs per barrel will have an immediate impact on the price of a gallon of gas at the pump.

To say anything to the contrary is foolish.


227 posted on 04/24/2006 8:38:11 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: from occupied ga
Gas prices are not the major issues. They're just another smoke screen to hide what's really going on in which we need to be acutely interested.

In respect to the gasoline prices, however, this illustrates how anxious our politicos are to bring this problem to a head. They've had decades and they do nothing but berate appointed judges and supreme court nominees.

My favorite democRAT warrior, the "Honorable" Senator Patrick Leahy told one of those lower court judge nominees that he was astounded that the candidate wrote disparaging remarks about the growth and evil of federal government.

"I love my government" the Cheshire Cat from the PRV said and "I can't understand why someone wouldn't."

228 posted on 04/24/2006 8:38:56 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: new cruelty
No more soup for you.

LOL

229 posted on 04/24/2006 8:39:12 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Bikers4Bush
They are both a problem but cheaper costs per barrel will have an immediate impact on the price of a gallon of gas at the pump.

The speed of this impact depends on the direction of the price, however. If the price per barrel of oil is going up, gasoline prices go up almost instantaneously. If the price per barrel of oil is going down, gasoline prices go down very, very slowly.

230 posted on 04/24/2006 8:41:25 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: barnswallow
"and the oil companies make about 9 cents per gallon"

That is right up there with the Easter Bunny.

What's the figure your sources state?

231 posted on 04/24/2006 8:42:25 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Uncle Vlad
And so will we.

All those mailers from the GOP get recycled quickly here. All those telephone solicitors are promptly told that we are not Republicans. We're Monarchists.

That really gets them.

232 posted on 04/24/2006 8:46:06 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: barnswallow
Not so idiotic in theory.

Totally idiotic in theory and practice - soviet style socialism at it's finest. Do you remember the Disasterous price caps on gas during the Jimmy Carter years? And the shortages and lines? Apparently not.

233 posted on 04/24/2006 8:46:21 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Peace through superior firepower)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Thats leadership? Is there any doubt with positions like this, the american public is going to kick Dubya & the GOP in the balls in November?

Unless they shape up.


234 posted on 04/24/2006 8:47:13 AM PDT by HitmanLV (Don't stomp so hard! Your dentures will fall out!!)
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To: subterfuge
and the enviro wackos call the shots

Almost right - I'd phrase it shoot the envirowackos.

235 posted on 04/24/2006 8:47:27 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Peace through superior firepower)
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To: ClaireSolt
He is a Populist Putz....
236 posted on 04/24/2006 8:48:21 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: FerdieMurphy

Federal state local taxes on a gallon of gas = average 50 cents per gallon. That is a "windfall profit"

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1054.html


237 posted on 04/24/2006 8:48:36 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: subterfuge

The congress will be elected in elections where these issues can be effectively used against the obstructionists who have voted against energy issues. It will not be decided by the White House.


238 posted on 04/24/2006 8:49:42 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: barnswallow
That is right up there with the Easter Bunny

Actually, its not. Most oil companies are publicly held. Their financial records are public knowledge. You can calculate the figures yourself. The volume of product the oil industry puts out every day is mind-boggling.

Or, coming from the other direction, about 10% of our gasoline is imported already refined (because we don't have the refining capacity to meet demand). That 10% is around 60 million gallons per day. So, the oil industry is putting out about 600 million gallons of gasoline per day.

Multiply that times 365 and times 9 cents and you'll see where the profit figures come from.

Of course, profit is not the same thing as dividends or cash on hand. The oil industry is very capital intensive. Most of the profits are reinvested back into the business, but unless they are expenses (like depreciation), they show up on the balance sheet, not the income statement. Like any business, profits can be high, but that doesn't necessarily translate into being rolling in cash. Income statements are only part of the overall picture.

If you compare the profitability of oil companies to businesses in general, in the last few years the oil companies have moved from "pathetic" to "below average". The numbers are huge because the oil industry is huge, but the returns compared to other businesses are only "record-setting" when you compare them to the awful historical performance of the oil industry.
239 posted on 04/24/2006 8:50:46 AM PDT by CertainInalienableRights
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To: hgro
5. Don't buy from Exxon Mobil

Your suggestions were right on target until you posted this one.

Exxons net profit is well under 10%. I own stocks AND mutual funds that grow over 20% per year.

No. 5 would sound better if it said "Don't buy from Citgo because it's owned wholly by communist Venezuela!

240 posted on 04/24/2006 8:50:47 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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