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Privately, Bush Says He Favors Citizenship (for Illegals)
AP ^ | April 26, 2006 | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 04/26/2006 5:20:12 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

President Bush generally favors plans to give millions of illegal immigrants a chance at U.S. citizenship without leaving the country, but does not want to be more publicly supportive because of opposition among conservative House Republicans, according to senators who attended a recent White House meeting.

Several officials familiar with the meeting also said Democrats protested radio commercials that blamed them for Republican-written legislation that passed the House and would make illegal immigrants vulnerable to felony charges.

Bush said he was unfamiliar with the ads, which were financed by the Republican National Committee, according to officials familiar with the discussions.

At another point, Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada and other members of his party pressed the president about their concern that any Senate-passed bill would be made unpalatable in final talks with the House.

Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, the second-ranking Democrat, said the lawmaker who would lead House negotiators, House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, had been "intractable" in negotiations on other high-profile bills in the past. Bush did not directly respond to the remark, officials said.

The Republican and Democratic officials who described the conversation did so Wednesday on condition of anonymity, saying they had not been authorized to disclose details.

Bush convened the session to give momentum to the drive for election-year immigration legislation, a contentious issue that has triggered large street demonstrations and produced divisions in both political parties. Senators of both parties emerged from the session praising the president's involvement and said the timetable was achievable.

"Yes, he thinks people should be given a path to citizenship," said Sen. Mel Martinez., R-Fla., a leading supporter of immigration legislation in the Senate.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; bushhaters; citzenship; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; openborders; sellout
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To: tobyhill

Lou Dobbs is also a hero to the loon left


401 posted on 04/26/2006 9:14:59 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: tobyhill; Mo1

A rather surprising number of people here embrace Lou Dobbs, despite the fact that he is a far Leftist and is right at home on CNN.


402 posted on 04/26/2006 9:15:15 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody!)
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To: FreeReign
Bush's CBP arrested 1.2 million illegal aliens at the border in FY2005

Obviously 1.2 million was not enough. Were they deported or still waiting for their day in court?

Bush didn't call the Minutemen vigilantes

Oh yes he did! Hmmm...now I question the truthfulness of all your other statements

Bush doesn't have an open border policy

Yeah, and he never called the Minutemen vigilantes either. LOL

403 posted on 04/26/2006 9:15:30 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: MaineVoter2002


Facts don't matter to you as well.


404 posted on 04/26/2006 9:16:10 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody!)
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To: CWOJackson
To say it's the federal government's job to protect the border and give an utter and complete pass to the state governments who are causing the problem, is BS.

BINGO!

405 posted on 04/26/2006 9:16:16 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Mo1; CWOJackson
Lou Dobbs is also a hero to the loon left

Just like somebody said; the extreme far, far right has gone SO far right, they're left.

406 posted on 04/26/2006 9:16:31 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Mo1

I couldn't believe the "Lou Dobbs for President" crap that has been floating on FR lately.


408 posted on 04/26/2006 9:16:38 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: onyx
A rather surprising number of people here embrace Lou Dobbs, despite the fact that he is a far Leftist and is right at home on CNN.

They are the same people who are believing and taking the word of Harry Reid and Dick Durbin in this article

Hello!?!?!

409 posted on 04/26/2006 9:18:10 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Howlin

Haven't you heard?

It's Tancredo/Dobbs '08.


410 posted on 04/26/2006 9:18:33 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody!)
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To: onyx

A rather surprising number of people here embrace Rush Limbaugh's opinions, Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity and Mark Levin and even Michael Savage on the border/immigration problem despite the fact that they are the Leftist's worst nightmares.


411 posted on 04/26/2006 9:18:48 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: Howlin

Yep .. they've been that way for some time

And still keep losing in the elections


412 posted on 04/26/2006 9:19:33 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: MaineVoter2002
I do know that CBP arrested 1.2 million illegal aliens at the border in FY2005

Obviously 1.2 million was not enough. LOL

Ah, now you're making sense, minus the hyperbole. Yes 1.2 million wasn't enough.

Are they still waiting for their day in court?

Good question. I believe all non-Mexican illegals are immediately deported. It's the Mexican illegals who are given a hearing. Many of them once identified are released and don't return for their hearing.

The only good part of that is that they've been identified and the criminals have been weeded out.

413 posted on 04/26/2006 9:19:56 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Mo1


Unreal. You have to know they're here to disrupt and demoralize.


414 posted on 04/26/2006 9:20:09 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody!)
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To: onyx

can ya see me rolling my eyes?


415 posted on 04/26/2006 9:20:25 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Howlin
"Just like somebody said; the extreme far, far right has gone SO far right, they're left."

After the piling on with Katrina, the left has learned that it doesn't take much to whip up the far right.

Immigration is a classic example.

416 posted on 04/26/2006 9:21:06 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: MaineVoter2002

How would that be surprising?

That should be a given, if you omit Michael Savage, who is a RC bigot and worse.


417 posted on 04/26/2006 9:21:44 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody!)
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To: Mo1


LOL -- as a matter of fact, I can!


418 posted on 04/26/2006 9:22:13 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody!)
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To: onyx
Facts don't matter to you as well

And Rush Limbaugh's an idiot? And Sean Hannity? And Laura Ingraham? Tancredo?

It is YOU who are in the national minority on this issue

419 posted on 04/26/2006 9:22:41 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: nicmarlo
And the point of repeating yourself is for....your own reading amusement?

No, you repeated yourself so I repeated myself.

What part of that don't you get?

Do I have spend more time documenting your hypocracy.

420 posted on 04/26/2006 9:22:56 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: onyx
I'd say that is a safe bet

Disagreements are one thing

But anyone who would sides with Harry Reid and Dick Durbin and takes their word has lost any and all creditability
421 posted on 04/26/2006 9:23:14 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Howlin; Mo1
In all fairness to Dobbs...

When Mr. Limbaugh first started out he often made the point that he was a conservative, but he was also an entertainer. He was very clear that his business was to entertain.

Look at Michael Savage. For years he struggled to make an easy buch selling herbal supplements. One day he changes his name from Weiner to Savage and pandering to the buchanan crowd. Look at how well he's doing now.

Who was Lou Dobbs before he started marketing to this audiance? No one.

Both men are nothing more then businessmen selling a product and they've found a viable market.

422 posted on 04/26/2006 9:23:15 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: West Coast Conservative

Bush will destroy the Republican party. His ratings are lower than any president's in the history. His policies are clearly against the Constitution and he is clearly a globalist. He has sold this country and he will go down in history as one of the worst presidents ever. I have no doubt about that.


423 posted on 04/26/2006 9:23:18 PM PDT by nikola
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To: MaineVoter2002

Oh shut up and read my reply to you BEFORE you post half cocked.


424 posted on 04/26/2006 9:23:26 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody!)
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To: onyx
It's Tancredo/Dobbs '08.

I'm sure they can probably still rent that little room that Pat Buchanan and Ezola Foster used for their grand and noble convention.

425 posted on 04/26/2006 9:24:02 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: FreeReign

"I believe" is NOT a fact and strange to hear coming from somebody who requires only documented facts from the so called "Bush-Bashers"


426 posted on 04/26/2006 9:24:12 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: nikola

Wow...all those talking points in just five sentences. That has to be a record.


427 posted on 04/26/2006 9:24:36 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: nikola


Wow.
Best to stay far away from that MSM kool-aid.


429 posted on 04/26/2006 9:26:22 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody!)
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To: Howlin

LOL! Does this mean, Patster is not planning to enter the primaries?


430 posted on 04/26/2006 9:27:12 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody!)
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To: FreeReign

*yawn*


431 posted on 04/26/2006 9:27:29 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, had been "intractable" in negotiations on other high-profile bills in the past. Bush did not directly respond to the remark, officials said.

And this is a bad thing?

432 posted on 04/26/2006 9:29:20 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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To: nikola

"His ratings are lower than any president's in the history"

Wrong, now go see the wizard and get a brain.


433 posted on 04/26/2006 9:29:40 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: nikola
He has sold this country and he will go down in history as one of the worst presidents ever. I have no doubt about that.

Yea yea yea .. the liberals said the same thing about Reagan

434 posted on 04/26/2006 9:30:35 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: onyx
A rather surprising number of people here embrace Lou Dobbs, despite the fact that he is a far Leftist and is right at home on CNN.

They'll tell you though, that he has voted Republican all his life. In the same breath that they tell you how much they hate RINOs.

Never grasp just how ironic their statement is.

435 posted on 04/26/2006 9:30:56 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Howlin
Plenty of people at this web site are working to make sure that happens.

Give it a break.

There aren't enough people on this site to elect a dog catcher in Snakes Navel, Wyoming.

436 posted on 04/26/2006 9:31:54 PM PDT by skip_intro
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To: Mo1

We (as in ALL of us) 'used" to question the veracity of the WP, particularly when anonymous sources were quoted.


437 posted on 04/26/2006 9:32:03 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody!)
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To: Mo1

In truth a whole lot of "true" and "real" conservatives would say the same thing about President Reagan. He was a remarkable person, but one of the most remarkable aspects of his Presidency is how it grows more conservative with each passing year.


438 posted on 04/26/2006 9:32:34 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: nicmarlo
The point of this article: "Bush favors bestowing citizenship upon illegals." This, I said (in an earlier post), comes as no surprise. The reason? FACT 1: he hasn't secured the borders, FACT 2: he has slashed the budget for Border Patrol Agents, and FACT 3: employer arrests have decreased during his term.

Your facts don't tell the entire story. They are selective facts.

Bush doesn't just favor bestowing citizenship upon illegals. Bush does favor bestowing citizenship upon illegals who wait their turn and move to the end of the citizenship line. Plus they must pay a fine for their civil offense.

Employer arrests have decreased during his term meanwhile border arrests have increased during his term.

Those are the full facts. You should state them as such. To not do so is to not be objective.

BTW, if Bush has slashed the budget for CBP, you should document it. Simply stating it doesn't make it fact.

439 posted on 04/26/2006 9:32:46 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: tobyhill

Can you supply a list of Presidents that did have ratings lower than Bush's?


440 posted on 04/26/2006 9:32:48 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: FreeReign

"Bush didn't call the Minutemen vigilantes."

Did you just forget, or what?

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20050324-075949-5943r.htm




441 posted on 04/26/2006 9:33:19 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: nikola
His ratings are lower than any president's in the history.

Complete nonsense. You want to rattle back to me what Abraham Lincoln or Herbert Hoover's approval ratings were?

442 posted on 04/26/2006 9:33:36 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish

You're right!
Ever see him kiss IMUS butt? It's sickening but very telling.


443 posted on 04/26/2006 9:33:40 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody!)
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To: ARCADIA
Bush ran on the Iraq war. He won on the Iraq war.

In 2000?

444 posted on 04/26/2006 9:34:19 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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To: MaineVoter2002

Your favorite Jimmy Carter for starters.


445 posted on 04/26/2006 9:34:34 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: FreeReign
All in favor of open borders please reply to this post.

You might just as well ask that all in favor of "amnesty" reply to your post. The fact is, it isn't something that anybody will own up to; but there are many here who support policies that encourage illegal aliens to flood across the border.

446 posted on 04/26/2006 9:34:36 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: onyx
Exactly. Blech.
447 posted on 04/26/2006 9:34:54 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish

Well, there was that push poll at Ford's Theater...


448 posted on 04/26/2006 9:35:14 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
California makes it very attractive to an illegal...and we blame the President for that.

Yes the enitre thing is a big mess.

New illegals pouring in since the 1986 citizenship amnesty.

Yet they take their partial facts from the MSM and they blaim Bush.

449 posted on 04/26/2006 9:35:28 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Prokopton

We've been through this already

Why not just post the actually transcript of what he said


450 posted on 04/26/2006 9:36:13 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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