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Lawmakers Scramble to Ease Gas-Price Pain
Associated Press ^ | 4/27/06 | Josef Hebert

Posted on 04/27/2006 1:38:53 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom

Senate Republicans proposed a $100 rebate check for millions of taxpayers Thursday to counter high gasoline costs, but linked the assistance to drilling in an Alaska wildlife refuge, assuring the measure would face stiff opposition from most Democrats.

Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee called the proposal "a bold package that will give consumers some relief" from gasoline prices that have passed $3 a gallon in many parts of the country.

"We are going to ease the burden," added Sen. Pete Domenici, R-N.M., at a GOP news conference unveiling the measures. Frist said he hoped for a Senate vote next Tuesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: 109th; gasprices; morons
Republican is now synonymous with Moron. This is a "bold" package? How about standing up to enviro-twits and opening up offshore and ANWR drilling, permitting new refineries and power plants, reducing boutique blends of gas, cutting fuel taxes and opening up other federal lands for exploration? Where's the supply-side of the solution? Instead these freaking idiots propose we tax ourselves to redistribute a measly $100 check to the have-nots.

Increasingly, there isn't a shred of difference between Rep and Dem.

1 posted on 04/27/2006 1:38:56 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Just when we thought our elected officials couldn't be any more idiotic, they prove us wrong. Why not lower the tax???? Either these people are very stupid or they think we are very stupid.


2 posted on 04/27/2006 1:39:55 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

This is a simple thing. Not good, but clever.

They open ANWR to drilling, which brings in a certain amount of money. They take that money, and give it to all americans to offset the costs of gasoline.

So it doesn't raise the deficit, they look like they are helping us all out, and we all see how much it will cost EACH of us if the democrats block ANWR.


3 posted on 04/27/2006 1:41:18 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mlc9852

Great, this means I'll be able to fill my truck up - once.

Of course, my neighbor will do better. He doesn't drive, but he'll still get the same $100.


4 posted on 04/27/2006 1:41:57 PM PDT by skip_intro
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

"Republican is now synonymous with Moron."

Absolutely! The paper cost of sending $100 to taxpayers would probably double the amount spent. And if they have that much to just p*ss away, then they're taking to darn much in taxes. How about another tax cut and proposing something logical?


5 posted on 04/27/2006 1:42:56 PM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

BTW, I don't think we should eliminate the gas tax. The gas tax is a fair way to collect money for our road system. The more you drive, the more gas you use, the more you pay for the roads.

And if you don't want to pay the gas tax, you can get a high-mileage vehicle, or move to where you work closed to home, or cut down on trips, or use mass transit.

The gas tax is a regressive tax, but it serves a rational purpose.


6 posted on 04/27/2006 1:43:47 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mlc9852; All
Either these people are very stupid or they think we are very stupid.

Both, I think... I have been covering, ( Or, as Seamole calls it...-backhoe's pseudoblog--... ) pseudo-blogging, this issue for years, so allow me to drop out of Lurk & Link mode for a rare bit of commentary-- we all need to get serious about our dependency on foreign sources of energy, and use our own resources.

Our consumer-based economy is driven by and dependent on readily-available, reliable energy-- choke that off, and we'll all be back to using one rotary dial phone in the dining room, watching one TV, and driving one car per family-- probably a Hudson Hornet or a Rambler...

We need to

1) end the nonsensical ban on offshore drilling off California and Florida--read & weep:
Castro Plans to Drill 45 Miles from US Shores, But We Can't

2) build a lot of next-generation nuclear power plants, not just for electricity, but for any process requiring heat, power, or steam.
And if we replaced our existing nuclear plants with
this one there would be significant benefits.

3) end Jimmy Carter's idiotic ban on recycling nuclear waste, and reprocess the stuff rather than fighting over where to bury it. Europe has done this for decades.-- what to do with spent nuclear fuel? Answer here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1468321/posts?page=50#50 hattip:  Mike (former Navy Nuclear Engineer)

4) use the 300-500 years worth of coal we have on our own land, using the new clean-coal technology.
-Clean Coal Centre--

5) and finally, there's nothing wrong with conservation, we should all practice it- but you can't conserve your way out of a shortage. Nor is there anything wrong with "alternative" energy sources- except they don't supply the vast ( not to mention readily-available ) amounts of power we need at a price competitive to more conventional sources. Then again, there is this to ponder:
Energy From the Gulf Stream
http://www.energy.gatech.edu/presentations/mhoover.pdf

We do need to get serious about this before we get strangled by a bunch of petty thieves and dictators who don't like us much.

My tongue-in-cheek collection of energy-related links:

Sticker Shock-$3 a gallon gas? Click the picture:

And kindly note, and note well-- the first reply to this post ( when gas was $1.45 a gallon ) was derisive... so, who's laughing now?


7 posted on 04/27/2006 1:44:39 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
$100 !? I am not worthy! I am not worthy!
8 posted on 04/27/2006 1:45:43 PM PDT by manwiththehands ("'Rule of law'? We don't need no stinkin' rule of law! We want AMNESTY, muchacho!")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee called the proposal "a bold package that will give consumers some relief" from gasoline prices that have passed $3 a gallon in many parts of the country.Call Frist's office and tell this senator that a real bold package would be for the Federal Government and State governments to ROLL BACK THE TAX ON GAS !!!! FORGET THE DUMB REBATE !!!!

Senator Frist
Washington, DC
202-224-3344
202-228-1264 (fax)

9 posted on 04/27/2006 1:46:37 PM PDT by yoe
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"Senate Republicans proposed a $100 rebate check for millions of taxpayers Thursday to counter high gasoline costs,"

Republicans believe in the free-market still?

10 posted on 04/27/2006 1:47:40 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: yoe

Behold..our leaders!


11 posted on 04/27/2006 1:48:17 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make The Call.....pitchforks and lanterns.!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I now refer to my Republican Senators as "Banana Republicans."


12 posted on 04/27/2006 1:48:23 PM PDT by zerosix (Romans 5:8)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The gas tax is a fair way to collect money for our road system. The more you drive, the more gas you use, the more you pay for the roads.

I'm glad someone on FR understands that. Although I have a problem with federal funding of highways, the gas tax is a better way of funding them than putting in on the income tax.

Thomas Sowell hit a home run today with his comment on Congress discussing gasoline prices: "If there is anything worse than partisan demagoguery, it is bipartisan demagoguery."

13 posted on 04/27/2006 1:52:01 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Congress, since you only understand Spanish here is my proposal: ¡Amnistía, no! ¡Deportación, sí!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"Increasingly, there isn't a shred of difference between Rep and Dem."

I dont agree with that statement as it pertains to the wide variety of issues, BUT on some issues, such as the gas price issue.... you and I agree completely. I read allot about the House and Senate making promises on this gas issue, I dont believe any of them.

14 posted on 04/27/2006 1:52:03 PM PDT by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
I agree. The Republican Party looks more pathetic every day. If we can't get approval to drill ANWR with a Rep President, a Rep Senate, and a Rep House--it won't ever happen. Sad. Not sad, pathetic.

If you think gas prices are high now---wait until any, or all of those three, change hands to democratic control.

We'll just 'tax our way to cheap gas'! We all know that bigger and more government control and bureaucracy is the way to get more oil and cheaper gas.

15 posted on 04/27/2006 1:52:59 PM PDT by stockstrader
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Senate Republicans proposed a $100 rebate check for millions of taxpayers

Why are they wasting our time? Invest it into something that will actually be worthwhile.

16 posted on 04/27/2006 1:53:02 PM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Republican is now synonymous with Moron.

Vote buying sellouts

17 posted on 04/27/2006 1:53:11 PM PDT by The Shootist
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
So, what are the odds that Congress will screw this up completely and instead of buying gas at $3/gallon, we'll not buy gas at $2.50/gallon. How much per gallon are you willing to pay to avoid 1970s style gas lines?
18 posted on 04/27/2006 1:53:52 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Congress, since you only understand Spanish here is my proposal: ¡Amnistía, no! ¡Deportación, sí!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The Republican Party has become a sick joke.

Whores, almost every single one of them.


19 posted on 04/27/2006 1:54:35 PM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam)
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To: Realism
Because if this 'bold' move (shameless pandering and vote buying is a better description) is offerred by Frist and the republicans,,the democrats will take it to the next level--saying we can't afford to give it to everyone--so only low income people will get it.

I WANT MY $100!! <--big sarcasm--off

20 posted on 04/27/2006 1:59:02 PM PDT by stockstrader
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

No war for oil! No, wait, make that more war for oil! No wait, how can GWB be stealing Iraq's oil if gas costs so much. My head is spinning.....


21 posted on 04/27/2006 1:59:20 PM PDT by CSM (I went to the gas station this weekend and it was so popular that I had to wait for a pump. D-Chivas)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yes there is! There are 36 decent Republicans in the Senate, and 19 Rinos that vote mostly with 45 dims. One should not cast such a wide net. We also have many good Conservatives in the House.

LLS


22 posted on 04/27/2006 2:01:30 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: The Shootist

Send my $100 check to the Minuteman so they can build a wall at the border.


23 posted on 04/27/2006 2:01:58 PM PDT by tghoul
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To: tghoul

Now THAT would REALLY be a 'bold' move. I like it! Take $100/person in oil taxes that we ALL pay--and apply to the wall. Perfect.


24 posted on 04/27/2006 2:03:48 PM PDT by stockstrader
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I don't think this has a chance in heck to get passed. However, I see this as more a political move than anything. Imagine the play this will get in the mainstream media when the Dems filibuster giving families free money and increasing the supply of oil. I'm sure that MSM will surely present the situation honestly and show the american public how much the Dems are against them......


25 posted on 04/27/2006 2:04:13 PM PDT by CSM (I went to the gas station this weekend and it was so popular that I had to wait for a pump. D-Chivas)
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To: mlc9852
Why not lower the tax????

From the article,

"Democrats, meanwhile, were assembling their own package of measures, including a proposal offered by Sen. Bob Menendez, D-N.J., for a 60-day suspension of the 18.4 cent federal gasoline tax and the 24-cent a gallon diesel tax. He said it would provide immediate relief of $100 million a day for motorists."

26 posted on 04/27/2006 2:10:21 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: Jacquerie

THAT'S what I would have thought the REPUBLICAN'S would have done....propose reducing/getting rid of some/the tax...


27 posted on 04/27/2006 2:13:56 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( "the left can only take power through deception." (and it seems Hillary & Company are the masters)
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To: yoe
ROLL BACK THE TAX ON GAS !!!! FORGET THE DUMB REBATE !!!!

While I agree with forgetting the rebate, there are two problems with your rollback. First, the taxes that go toward the highway system will simply have to come from other sources. User fees (gas taxes) are always preferable to general taxes. Second, we are currently in a high demand market, meaning that the reduction in gas taxes may not reflect an equally lower price, thereby giving our taxes to the oil companies as additional profit.

28 posted on 04/27/2006 2:14:35 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; All
Only one solution:

Special presidential news conference:

George Bush:

"I announce today, that all restrictions on oil exploration and drilling in and on the 50 United States, and its' Territories, and Territorial Waters, are hereby rescinded. Permits for refineries based on modern technology will be issued tomorrow....."


29 posted on 04/27/2006 2:18:50 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

It only takes one dumb attempt to fix prices by Congress to bring back the gas lines of the 1970's.

Please, Congress, DO NOTHING!!


30 posted on 04/27/2006 2:19:07 PM PDT by waverna
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To: waverna

If we are not careful we could wind up with gas lines and higher prices.


31 posted on 04/27/2006 2:22:20 PM PDT by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: nomorelurker

Zackly!
We here know that the right thing would be to open exploration domestically, maybe more nuclear and refineries. None of these will do anything in the short term, however.
So What do they come up with? $100 rebate checks! Ugh!


32 posted on 04/27/2006 2:27:55 PM PDT by waverna
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Increasingly, there isn't a shred of difference between Rep and Dem.

Agreed. They took jobs that no American would do.

Typical anti American politician:


33 posted on 04/27/2006 2:29:49 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Jacquerie; All
Okay, let's look at the math:

A Consumer drives 15,000 miles per year. He drives a car that gets around 20 mpg, so he is using around 2 gallons of gas a day. An 18.4c reduction in tax, for 60 days, would save him around $22 in direct cost.

I'm of the opinion that this "short-term" reduction in tax would, if anything, only prevent prices on items from increasing and you would see no decrease at all.

Mail me my $100 ?
34 posted on 04/27/2006 2:30:52 PM PDT by jonathanmo
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To: CharlesWayneCT
They open ANWR to drilling, which brings in a certain amount of money.

When do you see the impact of your proposal at the pump?

35 posted on 04/27/2006 2:32:11 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Hey,

There are lots of ways to ease the pain of high gas.

I went into the local Citgo gas station at the four corners. I electric power was out so I needed gas for my generator. I asked the clerk for $5.00 worth of gase. She cocked her behind, lifted her leg, farted and then gave me a receipt.

I guess you need to specify what type of gas you need these days.

36 posted on 04/27/2006 2:34:25 PM PDT by tryon1ja
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The gas tax is a fair way to collect money for our road system.

And state lottery schemes help pay for education. Right?

37 posted on 04/27/2006 2:34:33 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The gas tax is a regressive tax, but it serves a rational purpose.

The effective progressiveness or regressiveness of a use tax is irrelevant, IMO. As long as the tax is applied equally according to use, it's fair.

38 posted on 04/27/2006 2:36:48 PM PDT by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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To: brownsfan
The paper cost of sending $100 to taxpayers would probably double the amount spent.

They could just send it all to me and you. We could divide it up and make sure everyone else got their share....at no cost to the taxpayers. Agreed?

39 posted on 04/27/2006 2:39:40 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

alternate title: lawmakers scramble to point blame anywhere but at themselves.


40 posted on 04/27/2006 2:41:49 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (lead ,follow or get out of the majority.start with our borders.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Here's positive proof of another $100 that the government has stolen from me and others..........


41 posted on 04/27/2006 3:13:25 PM PDT by Sarajevo
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To: LibLieSlayer
We also have many good Conservatives in the House.

Ron Paul? er, ah, hmmm, guess that's about it.

The rest are dancing to the pork barrelled polka.

And no, not ONE true conservative in the Senate. 45 barking leftists, 19 or 20 liberals and 35 or 36 left leaning moderates.

I THOUGHT Lindsay Graham *might* turn out to be right of center. BOY! How wrong that was.

42 posted on 04/27/2006 3:47:07 PM PDT by The Shootist
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To: Diego1618

I remember when the feds decided to give us the child tax credit early -- so they sent everybody a LETTER telling us they were going to send us a CHECK.


43 posted on 04/27/2006 4:24:36 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: The Shootist

I disagree that there are no conservatives in the Senate. You, IMHO, are wrong! I do not disagree with your sentiment referencing "some".

LLS


44 posted on 04/27/2006 4:31:15 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I remember when the feds decided to give us the child tax credit early -- so they sent everybody a LETTER telling us they were going to send us a CHECK.

Yup....if we ever get back to just "Coining the Money", "Protecting the Shores" and "Maintaining Foreign Embassies" as the Constitution authorizes....it will be a Great Day!

Imagine....no more worrying about Spotted owls, Text books, Soy bean acreage, National Parks, capacity of Toilet flushes, ATF abuses, Big Labor, Energy production controls, Airline, Rail and Trucking industry subsidies, Mandated Medical procedures, Homeland insecurity, Housing controls, and Veteran's subsidies. All of these Departments added with no Constitutional requirements.

Every few centuries a "Ronald Reagan" comes into mankind's endeavors....so I don't hold out much hope for anything soon.

45 posted on 04/27/2006 4:57:43 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee called the proposal "a bold package that will give consumers politicians some relief votes from stupid people"..."

Fixed that for him. :)

46 posted on 04/27/2006 5:35:20 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I agree the proposed 'rebate' is a sick, socialist approach to this issue ... the democraps actually have the right idea and Pubbies ought to raise the 60 day offer to 180 days and make the bastards vote on it. BUT I strongly disagree that there is little difference in Pubbies and democraps .. it will be easier to change the in-power Republicans behavior than to even get democraps' attention once they get back into power and go with a vengence and even fascist zeal for the socialist societal engineered nation they believe is best for you and me. The democrat bastards are just too dangerous to ever allow them back in power.


47 posted on 04/27/2006 5:48:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I'll grant you there might be some former conservatives who are now bought and paid for (and if they are not their staff is AND STAFF WRITE THE LAWS just take a look at the copywrite issue and fair use - bought and paid for) . . . it takes an extraordinary man to resist the temptation after maybe a term. And since, by and large, they stay until they die. You get the (sad) picture.

Maybe there is an exception but I can't name him off the top of my head. sigh

48 posted on 04/27/2006 8:23:02 PM PDT by The Shootist
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Nonsense. Shades of George McGovern's laughable rebate plan. The GOP is so panicked, they're willing to out-bid the Democrats at their own game of getting the government to make the situation even worse. Hey, its just an election year, folks!

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

49 posted on 04/27/2006 8:25:55 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

"Republican is now synonymous with Moron. This is a "bold" package? How about standing up to enviro-twits and opening up offshore and ANWR drilling, permitting new refineries and power plants, reducing boutique blends of gas, cutting fuel taxes and opening up other federal lands for exploration? Where's the supply-side of the solution? Instead these freaking idiots propose we tax ourselves to redistribute a measly $100 check to the have-nots.
Increasingly, there isn't a shred of difference between Rep and Dem."

Bump


50 posted on 04/27/2006 8:34:29 PM PDT by KantianBurke
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