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Conspiracy Film Rewrites Sept. 11 (Lunatic Alert!)
Yahooooooo! ^ | April 28, 2006 | William Welch

Posted on 04/28/2006 7:21:24 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

Gypsy Taub, a mother of three from Oakland, does not believe that 9/11 happened. At least not the way the government said it did.

A Russian émigré, Taub is one of a growing number of people in the USA who are using the Internet, college campuses and pamphleteering to get the word out.

"Oh yeah, absolutely. On the day it happened, I thought it was the government that did it," she said.

Taub is promoting one of the latest presentations of revisionist theories on the 2001 attacks by al-Qaeda terrorists, a film that says, among other things, that the Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile fired by the military as an excuse to go to war.

Called Loose Change, it is being downloaded from the Internet and shown in small screenings here and overseas. It is not alone in the genre, and it is not unusual in American history either to offer simplistic explanations or demonize opponents. Presidents from Andrew Jackson to Lyndon Johnson were accused by their contemporaries of massive government conspiracies.

The film appears especially popular among young people immersed in a Web culture brimming with sites that question the credibility of government. They see 9/11 as the defining moment of their lives.

"This is our generation's Vietnam, our generation's Kennedy assassination," says Korey Rowe, 23, the film's producer.

Professors and researchers of film and politics say the Internet is making it far easier to spread such theories because the traditional media are losing their hold on the news. The immense coverage of controversies and accusations surrounding the war on terror has created fertile ground for people who assign their own interpretations to photos, footage, eyewitnesses, investigations and newspaper accounts of what happened, they say.

"The information revolution now gives us access to too much information," says Jonathan Taplin, who teaches at the Annenberg School for Communications at the University of Southern California. "Our problems are that we're just overwhelmed, so in some sense we just basically don't even know where to turn."

'It's all over the place'

Craig Smith, director of the Center for First Amendment Studies at California State University, Long Beach, cites the unusual nature of 9/11: four airliners simultaneously hijacked and no defenses stop them.

"You would say, come on, I can't even buy that as a movie script," Smith says. "All of this feeds this readiness for paranoia."

Made by Rowe and friend Dylan Avery, 22, from Oneonta, N.Y., on a laptop computer for less than $10,000, the film contrasts sharply with United 93, a film opening Friday that portrays the struggle for the jetliner that crashed in Shanksville, Pa.

Internet chat rooms are full of promos for screenings of Loose Change in such locales as the Santa Cruz Veterans Memorial Building in California; the Université de Sherbrooke, Quebec; Graz, Austria; and a theater in London's Soho district.

"It's been breaking like nobody's business the last two months," says Taub, 36, who is sponsoring a showing Tuesday night in Oakland. "It's all over the place."

'They aren't truth-tellers'

Most of what the film alleges is refuted by the evidence at hand. Anything not answered definitively by the government is interpreted by the film as proof of a coverup.

Among the assertions in Loose Change is that a missile hit the Pentagon even though eyewitnesses saw the jet, numerous pieces of wreckage were found including the flight recorder, and those on the flight and in its path at the Pentagon are dead.

There is also the claim that because jet fuel burns at up to 1,500 degrees and steel melts at 2,750 degrees, the World Trade Center's infrastructure could not have been brought down by the airliners. However, as reported by the Journal of the Minerals, Metals and Materials Society, steel loses 50% of its strength at 1,200 degrees, enough for a failure.

"The only thing they (the filmmakers) seem to have gotten right about the Sept. 11 attacks is the date when they occurred," says Debra Burlingame, whose brother was the pilot of American Flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon.

"They aren't truth-tellers looking to save the world," she says. "They're con artists hoping to sucker conspiracy-theory paranoids or anti-government malcontents into shelling out their hard-earned dollars."

Some college students who saw Loose Change and are promoting it say it's good to raise questions.

The film offers "at the very least suggests that we don't know the whole truth, and that some things are quite fishy," says Matt Latham, a freshman at the University of California, Santa Cruz.

'Students love it'

Christian Pecaut, 25, a Stanford graduate who is promoting the film at the University of California, Berkeley campus, said the film is "catchy, hip," with an "upbeat soundtrack."

Aaron Williams, a senior at Texas A&M University and president of the philosophy club, believes the film. "Government is corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely," he says.

Penelope Price, a documentary filmmaker and professor at Scottsdale Community College, said she brought the filmmakers to the campus to stimulate critical thinking.

"Students love it," she said. "These guys have done a great job of marketing on the Web, and that was another reason I wanted to bring them in."

Conservative writer David Horowitz, a former 1960s radical, says conspiratorial thinking can offer a world view that is somehow less scary than reality. "Conspiracy theories are a kind of secular religion," he says, adding that campus faculties sometimes encourage anti-government feelings. "People feel great anxiety ... by the thought that nobody's in control."

People believe in conspiracy theories because the truth "is either too simple or too remote," says sociologist Clifton Bryant of Virginia Tech University, who has made a study of "deviant logic" and behavior.

"We're always ready to believe something about which we know nothing," he says.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911conspiracy; americahaters; bushhaters; campuscommies; campusradicals; conspiracytheories; hollyweird; kooktokookam; loonyleft; marxists; propaganda; radicalleftists; sept11
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To: Albertafriend

I agree...It would be hard to imagine a large jet travelling even at a minimum speed of about 150 mph cutting across your path at a hundred yards out...

At two fifty, it would be a blur...And if it was still at cruising speed, I can't imagine a plane at that speed right in front of me...

But like the eyewitness accounts, I're read of the 'eyewitness' accounts of some of the folks that had the videos confiscated...I believe one was from a gas station...I'd like to see one of those videos...


61 posted on 04/28/2006 9:41:08 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: DoughtyOne
It's also evident that Flight 93 had hijackers of Middle-Eastern extraction

I'm convinced of that as well...I think it's plausable that flight 93 was actually shot down, and as bad as that may sound, it takes nothing away from the 'heros' on flight 93 nor is it meant to be a negative retort towards our gov't...

62 posted on 04/28/2006 9:46:51 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Later fer laffs


63 posted on 04/28/2006 9:48:06 AM PDT by don-o
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To: Iscool

It's possible. I don't think it was but I have no way of knowing.

I agree that it doesn't take anything away from the passengers who did their best to regain control.


64 posted on 04/28/2006 9:58:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (The United 'Door Mats' of America! Go ahead, scrape your feet on it. Everyone else is.)
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To: All
"On the day it happened, I thought it was the government that did it," she said.

In other words, you were a nutcase from the very first moment, and then went looking for anything that would validate your psychosis.

65 posted on 04/28/2006 10:02:25 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War (This tagline is false.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"They aren't truth-tellers looking to save the world," she says. "They're con artists hoping to sucker conspiracy-theory paranoids or anti-government malcontents into shelling out their hard-earned dollars."

one correction is required:

"They aren't truth-tellers looking to save the world," she says. "They're con artists hoping to sucker conspiracy-theory paranoids or anti-government malcontents into shelling out their PARENTS' hard-earned dollars."

there... that's much better

66 posted on 04/28/2006 10:05:32 AM PDT by King Prout (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT.)
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To: VegasCowboy
Opie and Anthony had this Korey character (the guy who produced this kookfest) on a couple of weeks ago, and they absolutely tore him a new one.

I was listening to that. It was hilarious how Boy Korey's response to every single tough question was "That's absolutely impossible!"

67 posted on 04/28/2006 10:05:52 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War (This tagline is false.)
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To: DoughtyOne
It's also evident that Flight 93 had hijackers of Middle-Eastern extraction.

How is that evident? Not a single frame of airport security footage was ever released.

68 posted on 04/28/2006 10:19:00 AM PDT by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: Junior_G
Which is it? Is George Bush a blithering idiot, or is he the greatest criminal mastermind in the history of the world? They'll probably argue that he's both.

Here is how it works

George Bush is a blithering idiot.

Karl Rove is the criminal mastermind who comes up with these fantastic conspiracies.

Dick Cheney finances the conspiracies so that Haliburton can subsequently benefit from the goverment expenditures resulting from its response to the conspiracy.

It all fits into a neat and tidy package.

69 posted on 04/28/2006 10:19:28 AM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: CharacterCounts

You might be on to something...


70 posted on 04/28/2006 10:21:53 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: jujigatami
They'd claim it was all a plot to allow us to occupy Germany and put military bases there.

I got the perfect anti-war slogan for just such a scenario - "No Blood for Bratwurst!!"

71 posted on 04/28/2006 10:25:10 AM PDT by mikemach5
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
four airliners simultaneously hijacked and no defenses stop them.

Many people on the left and right have no understanding of the leviathan nature of our government and how that affects its response to crises.

It is completely believable to me that our government was unprepared to protect us from suicide hijackers.

But silly me...I thought it would finally prompt some changes in the way things are done. Instead, the government simply circled the wagons even tighter.

72 posted on 04/28/2006 10:30:28 AM PDT by GSWarrior (The road to good intention is paved with Hells.)
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To: silverleaf

Dear Guide:

Got this URL forwarded to me from a friend. It's a series of pictures that "shows" that a truck full of explosives, rather than a plane, caused damage to the Pentagon on Sept. 11. I'm sending it on to you for examination:

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm

Dear Reader:

"Hunt the Boeing!" is a provocative display of smoke and mirrors, but there's little else to recommend the site. Its authors present a fraction of the available evidence in a highly selective, distorted, titillating way, proving absolutely nothing — except, perhaps, that there's always room for another conspiracy theory.

______________________

Do you know of any site that debunks all the whacko conspiracy theories about United Flight 93?


73 posted on 04/28/2006 10:36:56 AM PDT by amutr22 (Remember....Friend's Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat!)
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To: coconutt2000
Me and three friends should simultaneously sucker punch the guy who said this and see how quickly he defends himself before we hit him.

Yeah, then tell him you didn't hit him.

74 posted on 04/28/2006 10:38:56 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: Junior_G

"It shouldn't come as much of a surprise, considering that they also blame Republicans for Katrina and AIDS."

Ah, yes. I remember those days when we Republicans all took our scarey GUNS and forced men have sex with one another.

Then we moved on to LA where we used our same scarey guns and forced people to live in a swamp at sea level. *Rolleyes*

Take heart. I have lunatics like this in my family, too. Best to just ignore them. ;)


75 posted on 04/28/2006 11:06:44 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: amutr22
Try this link.

Sometimes it takes a while to load.

76 posted on 04/28/2006 11:20:03 AM PDT by GSWarrior (The road to good intention is paved with Hells.)
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To: Dont Mention the War; VegasCowboy

Is this interview streamed on the internet?


77 posted on 04/28/2006 11:21:01 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Charlie Sheen will likely be there Hollywood spokesman; if and when he can break himself free of surfing Internet porn sites.


78 posted on 04/28/2006 11:25:50 AM PDT by Shqipo (2006 is Bush Country!)
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To: ariamne
Why does the truth, that we were attacked on 9/11 by islamic wackos, scare them so?

Because it means we are engaged in a death struggle for the domination of the planet, which will be long and bloody, and will require a great deal of sacrifice. This is unpleasant to most people.

Of course, just because something is unpleasant does not mean it must be denied.

79 posted on 04/28/2006 11:27:56 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (RICE 2008)
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To: eskimo

I had thought that this was revealed during the phone conversations.


80 posted on 04/28/2006 11:28:10 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (The United 'Door Mats' of America! Go ahead, scrape your feet on it. Everyone else is.)
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