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Black panthers to march at Duke Univeristy
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Posted on 04/30/2006 8:47:13 AM PDT by JaggedEdge

DURHAM - The national chairman of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense says his group intends to march at Duke University on Monday to "deal directly" with lacrosse players about charges of rape of an escort service dancer at a team party.

Duke's campus police are coordinating with the Durham Police Department to prepare for the black-separatist group, which has a reputation for coming to its protests armed.

Malik Zulu Shabazz, a Washington lawyer who is the leader of the New Panthers, said he will be in Durham to rally with local black leaders and monitor progress of the criminal case against Collin Finnerty and Reade Seligmann, the two students charged with raping and kidnapping the dancer.

"We are conducting an independent investigation, and we intend to enter the campus and interview lacrosse players," Shabazz said Thursday. "We seek to ensure an adequate, strong and vigorous prosecution."

Duke is a private institution, and its campus is private property. Shabazz said he has not sought permission to enter but that his group has "received no word that we are not welcome."

John Burness, Duke's vice president for public affairs and community relations, said Thursday that the university will allow a controlled march on campus, as long as the New Black Panthers follow specific rules.

"As an institution we support free speech, and we will treat them like any other group," Burness said. "But we do not permit weapons. We will take necessary steps to keep the campus safe."

One of the key tenets of the New Black Panthers is owning firearms and knowing how to use them, according to the Anti-Defamation League, a national Jewish group that has monitored Shabazz and his followers for years.

"They are a racist and anti-Semitic group," said Myrna Shinbaum, a spokesperson for the New York-based league. "These guys come armed. They carry shotguns to demonstrations. The authorities down there should know this."

Asked whether his followers will be armed when they come to Duke, Shabazz chuckled and said, "I don't know if I can comment on that."

A flier distributed by the group this week displays photos of Finnerty and Seligmann and calls for those who have "had enough of disrespect and racism from Duke" to assemble at the front gates of the university's West Campus at 10 a.m.

"We as black men cannot sit idly by and allow white men to rape black women, regardless of what our sister (who by nature is a queen and a divine black woman) was doing," Shabazz is quoted as saying in a media release announcing the event.

In a telephone interview Thursday, Shabazz said he and several local black leaders will meet with Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong about the case Monday. Nifong did not return a message late Thursday seeking to confirm that a meeting is planned.

A "town hall" meeting is also planned at 6 p.m. Monday at St. Joseph's African Methodist Episcopal Church on Fayetteville Street. Shabazz is set to be the keynote speaker. The Rev. Philip R. Cousin Jr., the minister of the church and a Durham County commissioner, did not return calls about the event. Representatives of the NAACP and the Nation of Islam are also expected to attend.

New Panthers' origin

The New Black Panthers is listed as a racist hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, an organization more often cited for its efforts to monitor the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis and other white supremacists. The Panthers is also disavowed by the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation, named for the activist who helped found the original Black Panther Party in 1966.

According to the Anti-Defamation League, the New Panthers are a black separatist militia founded in 1990 by Khallid Muhammad, who was removed from a top leadership post at the Nation of Islam after Louis Farrakhan reportedly found his statements against Jews, Catholics and homosexuals too radical.

Shabazz became the group's leader in 2001, after Muhammad's death. He has drawn media headlines in recent years for claiming that Jews were evacuated from the World Trade Center before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and voicing support for Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called "20th hijacker" who was found eligible for the death penalty this month for his role in the Sept. 11 plot.

Shabazz, who said the group's current membership numbers in the "low thousands," backed away from claims published in a Durham newspaper Thursday that the New Black Panthers are providing security for the dancer and her family after she received death threats.

The accuser's mother told The News & Observer on Thursday that Panthers came by the family's house Wednesday and offered their protection, but the family decline


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KEYWORDS: blackracists; cwp; duke; dukelax; durham; durhamdirtbag; greensboro; kooks; malikshabazz; malikzulushabazz; newblackpanthers; truthrecon; university
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Instead of worrying about these charges that increasingly are becoming exposed as bogus, what they OUGHT to be worried about is the fact that illegals are pouring into this country by the millions. If blacks think they have it bad now, just wait a few years when there will be 10-20 million for illegals they will have to compete with over low skill jobs. Why aren't they "organizing town meetings" about that??

Makes you wonder....

1 posted on 04/30/2006 8:47:15 AM PDT by JaggedEdge
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To: JaggedEdge
"We are conducting an independent investigation, and we intend to enter the campus and interview lacrosse players," Shabazz said Thursday. "We seek to ensure an adequate, strong and vigorous prosecution."

With what standing, Shabazz?

2 posted on 04/30/2006 8:51:10 AM PDT by sauropod (Gael Murphy calls Kristinn her very own "teddy bear")
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To: JaggedEdge

"We as black men cannot sit idly by and allow white men to rape black women, regardless of what our sister (who by nature is a queen and a divine black woman) was doing," Shabazz is quoted as saying in a media release announcing the event."

Can you imagine if a white group (following what more and more looks like a trumped up charge) marched with weapons and stated that they weren't going to sit by while black men raped white women?????? What a double standard. As a matter of fact, with the "by nature is a queen" stuff, this guy sounds like a nut job!


3 posted on 04/30/2006 8:52:22 AM PDT by onevoter
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To: JaggedEdge
"We seek to ensure an adequate, strong and vigorous prosecution."

Doesn't sound like they are interested in a fair trial or anything.
4 posted on 04/30/2006 8:52:43 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: JaggedEdge
the New Panthers are a black separatist militia founded in 1990 by Khallid Muhammad, who was removed from a top leadership post at the Nation of Islam after Louis Farrakhan reportedly found his statements against Jews, Catholics and homosexuals too radical.

Just what in the world would be too radical for calypso louie?

5 posted on 04/30/2006 8:54:39 AM PDT by 11Bush
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To: JaggedEdge
Instead of worrying about these charges that increasingly are becoming exposed as bogus, what they OUGHT to be worried about is the fact that illegals are pouring into this country by the millions. If blacks think they have it bad now, just wait a few years when there will be 10-20 million for illegals they will have to compete with over low skill jobs. Why aren't they "organizing town meetings" about that??

But it's just no fun if you can't blame Whitey

6 posted on 04/30/2006 8:54:47 AM PDT by digger48
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To: onevoter
who by nature is a queen Welfare queen?
7 posted on 04/30/2006 8:55:13 AM PDT by blueminnesota
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To: JaggedEdge
IMO the Black Panthers are there in Durham to intimidate the players, and try and get them to confess to something they did not do.
8 posted on 04/30/2006 8:55:31 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: JaggedEdge

If they wait until Tuesday, they can get illegals to do this for them.

Doing the job American New Black Panther Party members won't do.


9 posted on 04/30/2006 8:55:31 AM PDT by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: P-40

Duke allows this? They have jumped the shark. No credibility in the world. Malik and his terrorists also should NOT be allowed, they are agitators...the Durham PD should just ring the place...sorry Shabby, no entrar!


10 posted on 04/30/2006 8:56:01 AM PDT by GRRRRR (Time to change the TAG...any suggestions?)
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To: Howlin; OakOak; Peach; Locomotive Breath

ping

Nothing like having the kooks come out in force.


11 posted on 04/30/2006 8:56:57 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: JaggedEdge

Thread already here...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1623046/posts


12 posted on 04/30/2006 8:58:09 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: onevoter

It would be interesting to review the rape statistics for Durham County, and the race of the perps/victims, for, say, the last 5 years.


13 posted on 04/30/2006 8:58:35 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Locomotive Breath; JaggedEdge; Admin Moderator

And he changed the headline.


14 posted on 04/30/2006 9:00:11 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: digger48
But it's just no fun if you can't blame Whitey


That's right. Never mind how many black men are raping, beating and killing their "black queens". Not to mention impregnating them and abandoning them and the children they father. Let's over look all that because Tawana Brawley Jr has accused a couple of crackers and she has to be telling the truth because she is the esteemed black queen that she is-a precious ebony diamond who peeled her clothes off in front of white men who paid her to do it.
15 posted on 04/30/2006 9:02:37 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: JaggedEdge

Go visit Durham and engage them in a polite conversation explaining your position to them. See what happens.


16 posted on 04/30/2006 9:03:32 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: FreedomPoster; Howlin
In a telephone interview Thursday, Shabazz said he and several local black leaders will meet with Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong about the case Monday. Nifong did not return a message late Thursday seeking to confirm that a meeting is planned.

If the mayor of Durham doesn't get a grip on Nifong and these black panthers, this whole thing might errupt. If it is true that Nifong is planning to meet with this thug, Shabazz, he will be very very sorry. Durham has indeed become a powder keg and I blame Nifong 100%.

17 posted on 04/30/2006 9:04:25 AM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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To: onevoter

These people are idiots who do one thing well: get other idiots to follow them.


18 posted on 04/30/2006 9:04:38 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: JaggedEdge
"We are conducting an independent investigation, and we intend to enter the campus and interview lacrosse players," Shabazz said Thursday. "We seek to ensure an adequate, strong and vigorous prosecution."

what do they need to do the interviews for if they already decided there needs to be a prosecution?

19 posted on 04/30/2006 9:05:46 AM PDT by wildwood
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To: JaggedEdge

"We as black men cannot sit idly by and allow white men to rape black women, regardless of what our sister (who by nature is a queen and a divine black woman) was doing," Shabazz is quoted as saying in a media release announcing the event.
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If the accuser is the Black Panthers' idea of a divine queen, it is scary to imagine what kind of woman they consider pond scum.


20 posted on 04/30/2006 9:06:50 AM PDT by OkeyDokeyOkie
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To: JaggedEdge
>>"We as black men cannot sit idly by and allow white men to rape black women, regardless of what our sister (who by nature is a queen and a divine black woman) was doing,"<<

1. That doesn't sound very Islamic - shouldn't they be stoning her or something?

2. Jesse Jackson, the Black Panthers.. The only thing this is lacking for a total circus atmosphere is some white supremacist group to show up.
21 posted on 04/30/2006 9:08:48 AM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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Doesn't sound like they are interested in a fair trial or anything.

Nope. "Monitoring progress" is undoubtedly code for "applying pressure" as well.

Their intention to "interview lacrosse players", along with him pretty much admitting that they'll be packing heat, is simply terrifying.

I don't want to hear that whore for the prosecution Nancy Grace ever mention again about how the stripper has to move from place or lives in fear for her life.

In all seriousness, if the KKK doesn't make a stand here against the "New" Black Panthers, we must officially discount them as a serious threat to society.

22 posted on 04/30/2006 9:09:51 AM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: JaggedEdge

10-15 idiots = Headlines around the world.


23 posted on 04/30/2006 9:10:33 AM PDT by Afronaut (America is for Americans, but not anymore)
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To: JaggedEdge

A pity that it isn't late enough for the Duke Dance Festival and the Festival of the Eno to occur simultaneously with this. That would be a hoot.


24 posted on 04/30/2006 9:10:55 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: JaggedEdge

These thugs shouldn't be allowed on the campus. The DU president needs to grow a set.


25 posted on 04/30/2006 9:10:56 AM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: JaggedEdge

Run Forrest, Run!

27 posted on 04/30/2006 9:12:41 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (So long Danny - gone but not forgotten)
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which has a reputation for coming to its protests armed

And, this is allowed because?????????????

28 posted on 04/30/2006 9:13:10 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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>>Their intention to "interview lacrosse players", along with him pretty much admitting that they'll be packing heat, is simply terrifying.<<

I support every non-felon American's right to carry a gun. "Interviewing suspects" could be interfering with a police investigation, though.


29 posted on 04/30/2006 9:13:29 AM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: 11Bush
Just what in the world would be too radical for calypso louie? I had pretty much the same thought. But hasn't this Malik guy appeared on O'Reilly once or twice? If he's the same guy I'm thinking about he is a stone wall of obtuseness surrounded by a deep moat of ignorance. Arrogance, smugness, and a supreme belief in his own righteousness radiate from him like the stench of a week-dead skunk. 'Course it could be somebody else, but I know he is a New Black Panther.
30 posted on 04/30/2006 9:13:53 AM PDT by chesley (Liberals...what's not to loathe?)
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To: JaggedEdge

The more I read about this accuser, the more I believe that these two men are innocent. And I believe that District Attorney Nifong is bringing these charges because he feels he's compelled to. The Black Panthers are irrelevant. Women have less to fear at Duke than they'd have to fear in the Panther's 'hood.


31 posted on 04/30/2006 9:15:58 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: sauropod

"We are conducting an independent investigation, and we intend to enter the campus and interview lacrosse players," Shabazz said Thursday. "We seek to ensure an adequate, strong and vigorous prosecution."

Black Nazis. I hope they get the crap knocked out of them, as that's the only thing their thick heads understand.


32 posted on 04/30/2006 9:17:08 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: abb; amutr22; Alia; AntiGuv; AmishDude; Bogeygolfer; BossLady; Brytani; beyondashadow; bwteim; ...
Duke Lacrosse Ping!!
33 posted on 04/30/2006 9:18:16 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: chesley

You have the right guy, and correct summary.


34 posted on 04/30/2006 9:18:35 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Intimidate the players, get free media attention, etc. Hey, I thought the black panthers died out in the 70's after going to prison for long stretches, killing themselves through drug addiction or becoming born again christians or on the wrong side of the coin, becoming black muslims. Oh, I see, now who's the head of the new Black Panther Party, a muslim. No surprise. By the way, if the media wants a real party, why don't they invite the loser duo of the KKK and Nazi skinheads, and allow all three of these cretinous groups to rub each other out?
In the meantime, the next time any athletic team wants to do something stupid like invite hookers (I mean exotic dancers, i.e., strippers) to a party, maybe they should have the party at the strip club and avoid this kind of trouble. Better yet, grow up and avoid this kind of nonsense all together.


35 posted on 04/30/2006 9:19:06 AM PDT by john drake (roman military maxim: "oderint dum metuant, i.e., let them hate, as long as they fear")
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To: clintonh8r
Not likely to happen
36 posted on 04/30/2006 9:19:19 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: jiggyboy
"Monitoring progress" is undoubtedly code for "applying pressure" as well.

I am sure that they are just there to send a message that they will not tolerate a "not guilty" verdict. They are nothing more than a black version of the KKK and they rely on people not wanting to be called a racist so that they will not point this out. That fear is losing steam though.
37 posted on 04/30/2006 9:20:09 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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"In all seriousness, if the KKK doesn't make a stand here against the "New" Black Panthers, we must officially discount them as a serious threat to society."

I doubt they could afford the trip. I read an expo about the KKK a year or so ago. They only have about 20-25 real members, no money and nobody is joining up. The most overhyped "organization" in America right now.


38 posted on 04/30/2006 9:21:10 AM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: 11Bush
...after Louis Farrakhan reportedly found his statements against Jews, Catholics and homosexuals too radical....

Good Lord,I cannot even imagine.

39 posted on 04/30/2006 9:21:21 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: JaggedEdge

"If blacks think they have it bad now, just wait a few years when there will be 10-20 million for illegals they will have to compete with over low skill jobs. "

You make a very logical point, but chocolates, at least in west Tennessee, have been on the dole for so long, they don't bother to do much work anyway.
This is the reason that there is such a demand for immigrant workers who seem to have a much stronger work ethic.

I would be all in favor of Mexican workers if they were documented and played by the rules.


40 posted on 04/30/2006 9:21:35 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: JaggedEdge

This country is really becoming a three-ring circus. To have Duke kowtowing to the Black Panthers is like having the University of Berlin invite the Nazis in. Decent people, take note of what's happening. Protect yourselves. Speak out. Don't accept this crap. Arm yourselves.


41 posted on 04/30/2006 9:21:36 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: JaggedEdge
" Asked whether his followers will be armed when they come to Duke, Shabazz chuckled and said, "I don't know if I can comment on that.""


Well I am certain the authorities will comment on that, and if they don't the citizenry will. (or should)




42 posted on 04/30/2006 9:22:57 AM PDT by G.Mason ("I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is to try to please everyone" -- Bill Cosby)
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To: cboy
Anybody think this could lead to Rodney King-style riot

I think that is the desired result.
43 posted on 04/30/2006 9:23:03 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: gondramB

(who by nature is a queen and a divine black woman

Not to mention a liar and a hooker. But if Shabazz wants to have fantasies, that's his business.


44 posted on 04/30/2006 9:23:07 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: john drake

"By the way, if the media wants a real party, why don't they invite the loser duo of the KKK and Nazi skinheads, and allow all three of these cretinous groups to rub each other out?"

Oooo, I'd pay money to see that! ;)


45 posted on 04/30/2006 9:23:14 AM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: FreedomPoster

I thought so. Thanks.


46 posted on 04/30/2006 9:24:14 AM PDT by chesley (Liberals...what's not to loathe?)
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To: Howlin

And make sure you hold the march the same day there's a major immigration march that's supposed to happen in Raleigh and Winston Salem, also the night before the Durham primary. Think WRAL has enough reporters to cover all that?


47 posted on 04/30/2006 9:24:14 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: JaggedEdge
"We as black men cannot sit idly by and allow white men to rape black women, regardless of what our sister (who by nature is a queen and a divine black woman) was doing," Shabazz is quoted as saying in a media release announcing the event.

They believe that blacks are by nature kings and queens. That raises the question "If they are kings and queens, over whom are they intending to rule?"

The obvious answer, of course, is "US"

And if you think that objective is ridiculous, keep in mind that in 1930's Germany and 1918 Russia, relatively small but well-organized armed groups did succeed in seizing power

48 posted on 04/30/2006 9:25:42 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: JaggedEdge
The New Black Pantloads must be trying to follow in the (Not Really A Reverend) Al Sharpton, World Class Race Pimp.

If it weren't for the Tawana Brawley fraud, Al would still be licking Percy Suttons boots instead of running for POTUS. The New Black Pantloads obviously are hard up for something to give them a reason for existing.

49 posted on 04/30/2006 9:25:57 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ (Who killed Suzanne Coleman?)
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To: 11Bush
Khallid Muhammad

The star of the show, however, was Khallid Muhammad himself, who took the stage in the black paramilitary uniform of the New Black Panther Party for Self Defense, the organization he helped found after being booted from the Nation of Islam. Throughout his rambling hour-and-fifteen-minute-long speech, a group of uniformed guards surrounded him and mimicked his every step.

Back in the days when he was Farrakhan’s personal bodyguard, Muhammad carried a .38 hidden in a hollowed-out Bible. In some ways, he still does, attempting to cover his febrile hatreds in the rhetoric of self-empowerment and a sham version of Islam. Most of the time, the cover doesn’t work.

And so we learned that AIDS, asthma, and cancer are creations of the white government "against our people." In fact, said Muhammad, things here in the "United Snakes of America" (he had the crowd repeat the phrase) are so dire that young people must "lay the base for revolutionary change." He suggested as their models not only the Tienanmen Square protesters, but also the Vietcong, Fidel Castro’s troops, and "the youth who stood up with Moammar Al Qaddafi." Muhammad later gave a detailed explanation of the origins of the term "cracker."

There were actually a few moments when I found myself agreeing with him—as when he told the men in the audience to "respect the black woman," and when he criticized the violence and crudity of so many Hollywood movies. But those moments passed quickly—Muhammad went on to say that black men should respect black women because white women are inferior, and that Hollywood is bad because it is "controlled by the Jews." If too many black characters are getting murdered onscreen, the solution is to "make some movies where the cracker is getting killed."

With what must have seemed to him like superhuman restraint, Muhammad refrained from his usual habit of referring to Jews as "bloodsuckers." But he did take pains to catalogue the misdeeds of "the so-called Jews." He explained at length that black people are the true Israelites of the Bible, God’s chosen people, their rightful identity fiendishly stolen by the people today called Jews (whom he said had "just crawled out of the caves and hills of Europe a few days ago"). But in one of the mental contortions typical of Afrocentrism, Muhammad also told the crowd that blacks are the direct descendants of the ancient Egyptians—who enslaved the Israelites for 400 years and were drowned in the Red Sea for doing so. Such contradictions, of course, are irrelevant, the purpose of the story being simply to provide a rationale for hating Jews and for yet another round of Black Power salutes

March of Folly

50 posted on 04/30/2006 9:25:58 AM PDT by Howlin
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