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Moussaoui Will Never Rot in Prison
Wall Street Journal ^ | 5/5/06 | DANIEL HENNINGER

Posted on 05/05/2006 4:24:36 AM PDT by mathprof

Need an antidote to the Moussaoui verdict? Go out this weekend to see "United 93."

Zacarias Moussaoui is lucky the jurors at his sentencing trial weren't allowed to see the movie "United 93" the day before reaching a verdict. If they had, rather than handing him life in prison, it is likely that one or more of the jurors would have come out of the box to deliver the death sentence himself -- just as the four doomed men on Flight 93 charged their hijackers to stop its fanatic pilots from flying the airliner into another American building.

Some will say the Moussaoui life sentence merely proves that we in the U.S. are beyond biblical justice, beyond an eye for an eye, even if our Islamic enemies do not bother to claim any grievance larger than resentment to justify the most startling slaughter of innocents all over the world. This argument -- that the refusal to impose the death penalty on Moussaoui shows "we are not like them" -- might have been entertainable before September 11. It may no longer be. [snip]

Our sense of normalcy may not be in our best interest.

As an example, one thought that occurred in the hour after seeing "United 93" had to do with the recent debate in the U.S. over the warrantless wiretapping of suspected phone calls between terrorists. In that hour, this "debate" seemed quite otherworldly. It is unlikely that in the first six months after September 11 Sen. Arlen Specter would ever have thought to intone that the wiretapping program was "in flat violation" of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. But he does now. Times change.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; moussaui; waronterr
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To: Graybeard58
I've work in a prison as an officer for 28 years and in the type of unit they'll put him in no one will be able to get to him to take care of him. most offenders after several years in a pod used for 23 hours in cell segregation get even more crazy and delusional (SIC). yes some of the cons are patriotic but modern facilities are near impossible to defeat unless there's a mistake made. hopefully one will be and the officer won't be fired for doing what needs to be done so the mistake happens, in the mean time i'm sure the officers will make his time there really special, i know i would.
41 posted on 05/05/2006 5:22:10 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: csvset
I listened carefully and it seemed to list the prisoners held in SUPERMAX prisons, but didn't really state which prison each was held.

Good thing too.

42 posted on 05/05/2006 5:22:47 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: GonzoGOP
He will have no contact with other prisoners so unless a guard decides to throw his life away this guy is just going to wait out his time.

Maybe we can get a guard with terminal cancer (nothing to lose) assigned to him...

43 posted on 05/05/2006 5:25:16 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: pandoraou812

Initially I was upset about no death penalty... but then I realized he would be in jail with some d*mn nasty people who probably don't like to hear "death to America".

I think when they get a hold of him, he will be sodomized, beat, tortured, and hopefully left to live to endure this day after day after day.

Never thought I would wish that on someone... but I do to this b*st*ard!


44 posted on 05/05/2006 5:25:50 AM PDT by JeffreyH ("Est Sularus oth Mithas")
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To: mkjessup

I'm for the death penalty, but I think this sentence might be a greater "hell" than being put to sleep peacefully. I can't imagine a life like this. I've toured 3 active Federal prisons and Alcatraz. Just those tours were enough confinement for me!


45 posted on 05/05/2006 5:26:20 AM PDT by Alissa
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To: mathprof

The next Democrat President will probably pardon him to appease the muslims and he also holds many of the same views that the Democrats hold.


46 posted on 05/05/2006 5:27:26 AM PDT by sport
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To: Jim Noble
France will immediately start agitation for his transfer to a French prison

I imagine the US has used back channels to explain to the French that any such attempt will be met with severe response.

47 posted on 05/05/2006 5:29:16 AM PDT by Glenn (There is a looming Tupperware shortage. Plan appropriately.)
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To: Jim Noble
In retrospect, the failure of the administration to execute him in 2001 was an incredible act of cowardice.

Ah, I see. So it's all Bush's fault. [yawn]

48 posted on 05/05/2006 5:29:44 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Jim Noble

"Every Democrat who runs for President for the next 50 years will be his Liberator-in-Waiting, in the spirit of international cooperation and respect for the world community, of course."

Hyperbole is fun, but of course there's no way a U.S. president would ever let this guy out or hand him over to France.


49 posted on 05/05/2006 5:30:14 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: Old Grumpy
Bad thing is - they only have one hour each day to get at him.

Somehow, I have a feeling that something will happen during one of those hour blocks eventually. And the guards will just happen to be looking the other way when it does happen. Gotta love prison justice!

50 posted on 05/05/2006 5:32:36 AM PDT by Kellykoop
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To: Graybeard58

According to my "in family expert" on prisoners, my brother-in-law, who spent 23 years in prison, there are lots of patriotic cons. One of them will kill him - That's my prediction................Where this guy is going there is no prisoner on prisoner contact.


51 posted on 05/05/2006 5:34:36 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: Coop
Ah, I see. So it's all Bush's fault. [yawn]

A decision was made in December 2001 NOT to have ZM examined by a military tribunal and shot.

This despite the fact that, since 9:03 AM on 9/11/01, it was crystal clear that ZM was an enemy soldier making war on the United States, captured out of uniform and behind our lines, making him ineligible for Geneva Convention protection.

In fact, per ex parte Quirin (1942), the military tribunal was not even required. He could have been shot by simple executive order.

If it's NOT Bush's fault that this civil trial farce was allowed to proceed, with its perfectly forseeable outcome, whose fault do you think it is?

52 posted on 05/05/2006 5:38:20 AM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: mathprof

What an embarrassment these jurors are, our face to the world, and typical of US society today.

Thank god for the Americans of United 93, who showed there are still some ordinary Americans with guts.


53 posted on 05/05/2006 5:41:36 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Gorzaloon

Watched O'Riley last night, he had a former inmate of the prison where Moussaoui will be sent to serve his time.
The gentleman says Moussaoui will never be in contact with the other inmates, my heart just fell to the floor.
I was hoping some of the other inmates would be able to get to him, and do the job our justice system failed to do.

Our legal system is rapidly becoming as Europe, weak.
Maybe if the trial could have been transferred to Texas instead of VA., the sentence would have been correctly done.


54 posted on 05/05/2006 5:45:07 AM PDT by buck61
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To: buck61
The gentleman says Moussaoui will never be in contact with the other inmates, my heart just fell to the floor.

Without an audience, and kept isolated long enough, he will find novel uses for his bedsheets...One can hope.

55 posted on 05/05/2006 5:47:07 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: Jim Noble
In retrospect, the failure of the administration to execute him in 2001 was an incredible act of cowardice.

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In retrospect you are remarkably prescient.

56 posted on 05/05/2006 5:53:40 AM PDT by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: rovenstinez
Do we know WHO the jurors were, and which individual worked so hard to convince the rest that LIFE was better than DEATH>?

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What would YOU do if you did know?

57 posted on 05/05/2006 5:54:55 AM PDT by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: mkjessup

Well put!
so many people here seem to think he's going to a "normal" prison. Florance Colorado ain't no club fed.

I believe he get 3 showers a week not 1.
There was a caller on a local talk show yesterday, who was an ex-guard there, he said large number of prisoners there end up going insane.


58 posted on 05/05/2006 5:55:11 AM PDT by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: Jim Noble

[yawn] ... Hmmm? I'm sorry, I must have dozed off at yet another in a long series of "It's all Bush's fault" ramblings. My sincere ...zz [!]... apologies.


59 posted on 05/05/2006 5:57:11 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: gitmogrunt
At U.S. taxpayer expense,Moussaoui will be become a great holy man and cleric while in prison, converting thousands of ethnically disadvantaged fellow inmates, to become devout followers of fundamental islamic teachings.

Um, no. He will live out his days in solitary confinement. See post #14 for a good description.

60 posted on 05/05/2006 6:01:51 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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