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Bill would ban people from smoking while children in the car. (Louisiana legislature lunacy)
KATC TV3 (Lafayette, Louisiana) ^ | 5/5/06 | unknown

Posted on 05/05/2006 6:11:02 AM PDT by BerniesFriend

Bill would ban people from smoking while children in the car

BATON ROUGE, La. -- Parents would have to stub out their cigarettes while their kids are in the car, under a bill headed to the Senate for debate.

The bill would prohibit anyone from lighting up a cigarette, cigar or pipe in a vehicle while a child required to be in a booster seat or car seat is riding along _ a child up to 60 pounds, or up to about eight years old.

The House approved the bill in a 66-31 vote.

Rep. Gary Smith, D-Norco, said he introduced the measure because he wants to prevent health problems that children can have from second hand smoke inhalation. He said children don't get a choice in whose cars they ride.

"I'm just trying to protect those who cannot protect themselves," he said.

Rep. Carla Dartez, D-Morgan City, said the bill infringes upon parents' rights to raise their children.

"I just think you're going a little too far in this Legislature when we can't allow parents of their own children to take care of their own children," she said.

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House Bill 1010 can be found at http://www.legis.state.la.us


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: bogusscience; forthechildren; idiocy; pufflist; smoking
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To: WildHorseCrash

Your arguments would be better received if you were to temper the language and the personal insults.


101 posted on 05/05/2006 8:40:55 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Madame Dufarge; WildHorseCrash; Raycpa
HALLALEUJAH, MY DEAR MADAME!!! I am glad they touched your life, as well. If we could only be as good, and wholesome. It is a lofty goal, but with Ray and Crash leading the way, I believe we can achieve ANYTHING.

I bbbbeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllliiiiiieeeveeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!
102 posted on 05/05/2006 8:42:26 AM PDT by 383rr ( ((those who choose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY))
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To: Madame Dufarge

"I love the smell of hysteria in the morning."

LOL!


103 posted on 05/05/2006 8:43:19 AM PDT by 383rr ( ((those who choose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY))
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To: R.W.Ratikal

You might be wrong in your entire approach to the relationship between State Law and the Constitution of the United States.

Generally, if something is not specifically covered in the Constitution, it's left up to the States, individually. Remember, the States came first and created the U.S.

If the citizens of a State do not like the laws being passed by their legislature, the first and most natural and democratic recourse is to vote the rascals out.


104 posted on 05/05/2006 8:46:12 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: SheLion

Eric Lindros and Bob Dylan! I didn't know.

Oh. You meant Dylan Thomas and Eric the Red.


105 posted on 05/05/2006 8:48:45 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: BerniesFriend

This isn't about "the children" this is about MONEY. Pure and simple! Just another way for the state to steal money. These people don't give one rats ass about "the children".


106 posted on 05/05/2006 8:50:34 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Old Professer; WildHorseCrash

Your arguments would be better received if you were to temper the language and the personal insults.

Thank you!


107 posted on 05/05/2006 8:58:03 AM PDT by SheLion (BEWARE: There are CINO'S among us!!!!)
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To: swain_forkbeard
Oh. You meant Dylan Thomas and Eric the Red.

Ah, no.........the two Columbine High School boys.

108 posted on 05/05/2006 8:59:29 AM PDT by SheLion (BEWARE: There are CINO'S among us!!!!)
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To: 383rr; Raycpa; WildHorseCrash
Amy Semple McPherson pales by comparison.

If only she'd had their charisma, their powers of persuasion, their sense of mission, think how much further she could have gone.

Yes, nuggets of hate hurled from the anonymous keyboard, spittle-flecked insults - this is the stuff of greatness!

109 posted on 05/05/2006 9:16:17 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: swain_forkbeard
Would I force young children to sit in a car with closed windows while I chain-smoked? No, I agree with you that it makes good sense no to do that.

On the other hand, I don't necessarily believe that children catching a whiff of cigar or cigarette smoke in a car with the windows down is any more harmful than the pollutants they're routinely exposed to on a daily basis.

A law like this opens a Pandora's Box: once passed, there's nothing that can't be banned next.

110 posted on 05/05/2006 9:22:27 AM PDT by Lou L
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To: Madame Dufarge; Raycpa; WildHorseCrash
"Yes, nuggets of hate hurled from the anonymous keyboard, spittle-flecked insults - this is the stuff of greatness!"

Absolutely. It will definetly change minds; but not the way they want them changed. Ray, Horsey, keep up the stupendous job. You're changing minds faster than any one could imagine.
111 posted on 05/05/2006 9:30:57 AM PDT by 383rr ( ((those who choose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY))
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To: 383rr

112 posted on 05/05/2006 9:42:30 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: WideGlide

Rofl! Somebody slap the cuffs on that kid!


113 posted on 05/05/2006 9:45:33 AM PDT by derllak
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To: derllak
Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

Here's a wedding pic of his Momma and Daddy a couple of weeks before he was borned.

114 posted on 05/05/2006 9:52:50 AM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: WideGlide

ROFLMAO! Awww, you look exactly as I imagined you would! Love that mullet! :P


115 posted on 05/05/2006 9:56:36 AM PDT by derllak
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To: WideGlide

Whoever was raised by that family was hurt much more by the fact that his parents were poor white trash than by the smoking.


116 posted on 05/05/2006 9:56:41 AM PDT by RHINO369
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To: annelizly
How many of you grew up breathing in cigarette smoke and are still alive????!!!

I am! My children are and are VERY healthy! An 84 year old family friend is not only alive, but is one of the healthiest people I have ever met and takes no medication. Most individuals alive today, over the age of 10-15, grew up around cigarette smoke.

Meanwhile, a 44 y/o relative died of lung cancer. She lived in a smoke-free home her entire life and her workplace was non-smoking.

Another relative is dead at 53. She never smoked, drank or whored (her words) around. She is dead, however.

117 posted on 05/05/2006 10:45:46 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! I *LOVE* my attitude problem. Beware the Enemedia!)
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To: Gabz; WildHorseCrash; Raycpa; RichardW
Thanks for the ping Gabz! Unbelievable comments on this thread. Some of my favorites.....

Smoking around children increases their risk of harm. That is a bad thing. We should rightly describe it as "child abuse," but don't out of a misguided notion that it might offend the junkies who like to inhale shit into their lungs.
60 posted on 05/05/2006 7:55:05 AM PDT by WildHorseCrash
Wild horse CRAP!

Smoker's kids need to be protected from actions coming from this ignorance.
65 posted on 05/05/2006 8:00:31 AM PDT by Raycpa

Nothing worse than having to be around a smoker.
71 posted on 05/05/2006 8:02:05 AM PDT by RichardW
Richard has lived a privilege life, it seems.

That's the dumbest, most ignorant, illogical, inane and ridiculously stupid statement I've read on FreeRepublic in a while.
84 posted on 05/05/2006 8:15:23 AM PDT by WildHorseCrash
Then you haven't been reading FR much lately.

I hate to post and run, but I will leave you with this...

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened."
-Norman Thomas

118 posted on 05/05/2006 11:02:07 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! I *LOVE* my attitude problem. Beware the Enemedia!)
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To: Justanobody; annelizly
Meanwhile, a 44 y/o relative died of lung cancer. She lived in a smoke-free home her entire life and her workplace was non-smoking.

Another relative is dead at 53. She never smoked, drank or whored (her words) around. She is dead, however.

It's the craziest thing.  From what the anti's are spewing on the media and everywhere that smoking and second hand smoke is such a killer, when I, too, had a much different outlook to my growing up.

My one grandmother died at 42, full of cancer.  She never smoked.  I never knew her.

My grandfathers both smoked, and lived well into their 70's.

My other grandmother smoked 3 packs of unfiltered Camels a  day and lived to be 86.  So, from my experiences against what the anti's are spewing today, I just can't compute.

And you look at the obituary's every day..............the people dying are OLD. 

119 posted on 05/05/2006 11:10:03 AM PDT by SheLion (BEWARE: There are CINO'S among us!!!!)
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To: SheLion
You know, that Maine Public Service Announcement gets better!

Look at this blow-up of the front seat:



The seat backs are completely different on the front driver and passenger seats.

Also, now that I relocated from New England to Illinois, I have a pretty good idea what corn fields look like. The background looks very much like corn fields . . . but who the heck grows corn in Maine?!

Looks like photoshop and clip art strikes again!
120 posted on 05/05/2006 12:22:25 PM PDT by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: msnimje


Idiots?

How judgemental you are.

Shame on you.



121 posted on 05/05/2006 1:06:48 PM PDT by Mears
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To: sittnick
Heck, plenty of corn growing in Maine.

Darn good stuff, too.

We just have to do it faster ;-)

122 posted on 05/05/2006 1:24:33 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Raycpa
No cartoons available from Pravda?

Surely you have them bookmarked.

123 posted on 05/05/2006 1:27:52 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: ConservativeLawyer

"I'm just trying to protect those who cannot protect themselves," he said.
Unless,of course, that person happens to still be in the womb.




WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!


124 posted on 05/05/2006 1:39:58 PM PDT by The Foolkiller (BSXL* The game that made the NFL irrelevant..)
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To: 383rr

LOL You have a rather unique way of feeding the trolls. But, I have to admit, he never answers you, so I guess it does get to 'im. 8^D


125 posted on 05/05/2006 1:52:36 PM PDT by The Foolkiller (BSXL* The game that made the NFL irrelevant..)
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To: annelizly

just wondering....How many of you grew up breathing in cigarette smoke and are still alive????!!!




4:54 PM, EST, and I'm still here.


126 posted on 05/05/2006 1:54:37 PM PDT by The Foolkiller (BSXL* The game that made the NFL irrelevant..)
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To: Gabz

Some of the 'conservatives' on FR are really fine pieces of work, aren't they?


127 posted on 05/05/2006 1:56:31 PM PDT by The Foolkiller (BSXL* The game that made the NFL irrelevant..)
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To: 383rr

Just letting you know I reported that 'child rapist' post to the mods (for all the good it will probably do). This only makes the third time I've done that since joining FR, I'm pretty sure, but sometimes they push my blood pressure too far. Totally uncalled for.


128 posted on 05/05/2006 2:05:20 PM PDT by The Foolkiller (BSXL* The game that made the NFL irrelevant..)
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To: Madame Dufarge

For the children.




Unless , of course,they happen to still be in the womb.


129 posted on 05/05/2006 2:07:02 PM PDT by The Foolkiller (BSXL* The game that made the NFL irrelevant..)
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To: swain_forkbeard

You know full well who she meant.


130 posted on 05/05/2006 2:09:18 PM PDT by The Foolkiller (BSXL* The game that made the NFL irrelevant..)
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To: Madame Dufarge
No cartoons available from Pravda?

The image “http://pravda.shok.kiev.ua/smoker.gif” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.

131 posted on 05/05/2006 2:23:44 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Mears
Idiots? How judgemental you are. Shame on you.

In my world we protect our children from harm, not expose them to it.

And not to be too judgmental but you spelled judgmental incorrectly. :`)
132 posted on 05/05/2006 2:52:57 PM PDT by msnimje (Illegals to US CITIZENS .... "You Suck.......Now pass the mash potatoes!")
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To: Raycpa

YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GET JIGGY WID IT RAYMEISTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KEEP ME COMIN' BACK FO MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEAAAAARRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!


133 posted on 05/05/2006 3:06:40 PM PDT by 383rr ( ((those who choose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY))
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To: The Foolkiller

Only time will tell. I least I can laugh, and it's good for your high blood-pressure.


134 posted on 05/05/2006 3:10:24 PM PDT by 383rr ( ((those who choose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY))
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To: The Foolkiller

" This only makes the third time I've done that since joining FR, I'm pretty sure, but sometimes they push my blood pressure too far. Totally uncalled for."

OK. But I didn't mind it, cause it shows the anti-freedom fighter's true personality, and exposes their control agenda.


135 posted on 05/05/2006 3:31:18 PM PDT by 383rr ( ((those who choose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY))
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To: WildHorseCrash
And a parent who smokes around children is not "protecting them" from harm, it is inflicting harm on them.

My kid sister had an asthma attack when only a few weeks old. That one was her last. Our family physician told my Father to blow cigarette smoke at her several times a day.

Nipped it in the bud. She's 50 now, due to be a grandmother in a few weeks, and hasn't had a problem since.

136 posted on 05/05/2006 4:22:00 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: annelizly
just wondering....How many of you grew up breathing in cigarette smoke and are still alive????!!!

Had my first cigarette at the age of 9. That was 45 years ago. Still doing it, still running circles around the whippersnappers and soccer moms.

137 posted on 05/05/2006 4:25:07 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: 383rr

" This only makes the third time I've done that since joining FR, I'm pretty sure, but sometimes they push my blood pressure too far. Totally uncalled for."

OK. But I didn't mind it, cause it shows the anti-freedom fighter's true personality, and exposes their control agenda.




It doesn't matter. He wasn't suspended-I just checked. These people can call us baby-rapers, or any vile name under the sun on this board, and it's always ok.


138 posted on 05/05/2006 7:03:18 PM PDT by The Foolkiller (BSXL* The game that made the NFL irrelevant..)
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To: The Foolkiller

You have freep mail, FRiend.


139 posted on 05/05/2006 7:10:27 PM PDT by 383rr ( ((those who choose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY))
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To: SheLion

We need more adults who deal with logic on these threads. "It's for the children" is getting really old and reminds me of the Hildabeast. Like she really gives a darn about the children.


140 posted on 05/05/2006 7:31:27 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: msnimje

I tend to occasionally spell words incorrectly but I have never called anyone an idiot when I don't agree with them.


141 posted on 05/05/2006 8:36:13 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Raycpa

"It has been demonstrated that most smokers see no problem in subjecting their kids to smoke."

Cite your sources, or STFUP.

"Some actually think its a healthy thing.

You make these stupid claims. Who is "some." Give us names and examples.


142 posted on 05/05/2006 8:53:03 PM PDT by sergeantdave (And though getting up in the world attracts attention, it does not establish solid worth.)
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To: sergeantdave

You;ll never get an answer either. I called another one of them out on another thread for saying the exact same thing (that 'we' were saying smoking was healthy for you). After asking him to post the proof for the fourth time, he came up with -She Lion said that "smoking was better than having aids".


143 posted on 05/05/2006 9:07:05 PM PDT by The Foolkiller (BSXL* The game that made the NFL irrelevant..)
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To: WildHorseCrash

Your addiction is government telling parents how to raise their children.

You should goosestep over to democrat underground where you can be with your kind.


144 posted on 05/05/2006 9:11:49 PM PDT by sergeantdave (And though getting up in the world attracts attention, it does not establish solid worth.)
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To: The Foolkiller; WildHorseCrash; Raycpa

This is one of the most irrational threads I've seen on FR. You have this irrational person WildHorseCrash spewing complete garbage about how government is best suited to raise children. WildHorseCrash should goosestep over to DU where he can be with his Marxist buddies.

Same thing with Raycpa. The man wouldn't recognize the difference between freedom and slavery if you gave him a map.

I think both of these characters are sleepers who were recently activated by their Marxist masters.


145 posted on 05/05/2006 9:42:27 PM PDT by sergeantdave (And though getting up in the world attracts attention, it does not establish solid worth.)
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To: BerniesFriend

I'm not for Big Brother / Big Government intrusion into our lives. I don't like wearing seatbelts and having to drive 70 mph on the interstate. There are a lot of laws that I don't like. But, this one I think it's a good idea.

I've seen people in cars with ALL windows rolled up and two kids in the back seat in car seats and a CLOUD of smoke filling the car. I couldn't handle that but I have a choice; babies don't.


146 posted on 05/05/2006 10:00:14 PM PDT by no dems (A Winning Campaign Theme for a Conservative in '08: "PUTTING AMERICA FIRST")
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To: sergeantdave
You make these stupid claims. Who is "some." Give us names and examples.

You are correct. The smokers merely claim that statistic show that children of nonsmokers have fewer asthma incidents. Only a fool would believe that these statistic prove that children of smokers are better off than nonsmokers.

147 posted on 05/06/2006 2:38:40 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: sergeantdave; The Foolkiller; WildHorseCrash
The man wouldn't recognize the difference between freedom and slavery if you gave him a map.

Addicts are not free. Their invisible chains of addiction are very clear without a map.

Choose this day which master you will be serving for true freedom and stop worshiping at this altar of death


148 posted on 05/06/2006 2:44:11 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: sittnick
Also, now that I relocated from New England to Illinois, I have a pretty good idea what corn fields look like. The background looks very much like corn fields . . . but who the heck grows corn in Maine?!

Photoshop.  You might be on to something.  And probably some idiot was paid with the taxes smokers paid on cigarettes.  To add insult to injury!

149 posted on 05/06/2006 4:07:07 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
"It's for the children" is getting really old and reminds me of the Hildabeast. Like she really gives a darn about the children.

For the children is SO old!!!  And we all know they could care less about the kids.  It's just a word they use to make what they do seem compassionate.  ugh!

150 posted on 05/06/2006 4:10:33 AM PDT by SheLion
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