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Bill would ban people from smoking while children in the car. (Louisiana legislature lunacy)
KATC TV3 (Lafayette, Louisiana) ^ | 5/5/06 | unknown

Posted on 05/05/2006 6:11:02 AM PDT by BerniesFriend

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Sheer lunacy..next thing the legislature will do is regulate children's diet..knock knock..hello mr and mrs mom and dad..let's see what you are feeding junior..tsk tsk..not good enough..here is a ticket..only looking out for junior you know..frightening..
1 posted on 05/05/2006 6:11:05 AM PDT by BerniesFriend
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To: BerniesFriend

Big Brother strikes again.


2 posted on 05/05/2006 6:12:22 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: BerniesFriend; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; ...

Nanny state ping................


3 posted on 05/05/2006 6:13:39 AM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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To: BerniesFriend

It's a brave new world, pal.


4 posted on 05/05/2006 6:14:09 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: Gabz; The Foolkiller; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; Judith Anne; ...
Maine did this with Foster parents a few years back.

Maine:  Do not smoke if you're a foster parent!  The DHS says so!  It's ok if you sprawl on the couch at night drunk though!

DHS creates smoking rules for foster homes, vehicles

2-26-04 - article here


5 posted on 05/05/2006 6:17:19 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: BerniesFriend
The tobacco nazi's have been really ramping up their efforts in Louisiana lately.

Much more of this and I'll be movin' on.

Smoking a cigarette in my jeep as I drive out of the state for good.

6 posted on 05/05/2006 6:17:23 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: BerniesFriend

OK, so the kids get to ride in the trunk. What's wrong with that? Much quieter.


7 posted on 05/05/2006 6:18:10 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: BerniesFriend

I have got to say that this issue shows how gutless ourpoliticians really are at the state, local and federal levels.

If smokes are SOOOOOO bad that they are banning their use everywhere then why aren't they simply banning their production and distribution?

If they can ban smoking in a personal car why not a personal house as well? What is the difference?

Here is how our politicians could be uniting on this issue rather than devisive. Approach this from the standpoint of making designated places for people to smoke. In this angle it is not about taking something away from smokers, indeed it is about protecting their freedom to smoke em if they got em. Both sides get what they want and deserve, which is the ability to make their own choice.

Here in the capitol city a smoking ban has taken effect and now we see people all over the place that are actually in the STREET. Yes the law has become so foolish as to mandate someone be in the street Literally! How long before someone gets run over? Isn't the state responsible for them being run over? After all they passed laws that put these folks there right?

It is my position that lawmakers are backdooring smokers because they fear big tobacco industry (and of course the donations they make towards political campaigns).

If they want to make them illegal then go on with their bad selves and DO IT. Otherwise this only serves to add to the mentality that they really do not want to change anyones behavior.....they simply want to charge you for it.
Disgusting really!


8 posted on 05/05/2006 6:20:48 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: BerniesFriend

Every day, America takes a step a little bit closer to socialism. Why don't they just ban cigarettes and be done with it.


9 posted on 05/05/2006 6:21:26 AM PDT by Peach
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To: BlueStateDepression
If smokes are SOOOOOO bad that they are banning their use everywhere then why aren't they simply banning their production and distribution?

One word buddy: taxes.
10 posted on 05/05/2006 6:22:49 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: Joe 6-pack
The tobacco nazi's have been really ramping up their efforts in Louisiana lately.

The party state of the Union.  Go figure!


11 posted on 05/05/2006 6:22:50 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: BerniesFriend
You can't legislate intelligence. Only an idiot would subject their children to cigarette smoke in an enclosed environment.

Are these idiots going to stop doing so because it is against the law?
12 posted on 05/05/2006 6:23:22 AM PDT by msnimje (Illegals to US CITIZENS .... "You Suck.......Now pass the mash potatoes!")
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To: BerniesFriend
"I'm just trying to protect those who cannot protect themselves," he said.

Unless,of course, that person happens to still be in the womb.

13 posted on 05/05/2006 6:23:22 AM PDT by ConservativeLawyer
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To: Joe 6-pack
Smoking a cigarette in my jeep as I drive out of the state for good.

I am betting the Katrina victims are were thinking that very same thing.

Lets think about this for a minute. This state has a major city in utter ruins and they are spending their time with THIS? Simply Amamzing.
14 posted on 05/05/2006 6:25:24 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: Peach

What? Then they would lose all that tax money.


15 posted on 05/05/2006 6:27:41 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: SheLion

The State of Maine is nuts!

The guy is in a convertible in a corn field! For all practical purposes, he is "outside".

When I think of what goes on in so many foster homes, and the shortage of good ones, I can't help but think that DHS wants to make their job harder (or impossible) so that they can get more funding.


16 posted on 05/05/2006 6:28:11 AM PDT by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: JamesP81
One word buddy: taxes

Agreed, they have become so entrenched in the revenues that they need the fines to make up the difference.

When Blago (my governor) came to power he saw to it that cigs got a HUGE tax increase and he claimed it was so that the kids would be deterred. Recently he went after another tax increase on them claiming it was to fill holes in the budget. He was alerted to his hypocracy and then decided it was much better to raid the state workers pension funds instead.

All I can say is that BlueStates just plain SUCK!
17 posted on 05/05/2006 6:29:02 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: Gabz

My Dad used to stub his cigs out in our eyes when he was done with 'em. Not only THAT, but he used to drive us around in a smoke-filled, tin-can VW Bug with NO seatbelt protection. And if we were tall enough to reach the clutch pedal, and he was too drunk, we'd be driving and smoking for him. ;)

Kids are wimps these days. ;)

What is going on this week? Man, it's been a full court press by the Nanny Staters! Grrrrr!


18 posted on 05/05/2006 6:31:08 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: BerniesFriend

I don't like the smoke nazis either. But not lighting up in a car with kids in it makes sense to me - and it makes alot more sense than banning smoking in barrooms.


19 posted on 05/05/2006 6:31:56 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: BerniesFriend
Bill would ban people from smoking while children in the car

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AH!! But will it also ban children from smoking in the car? (:^*)

20 posted on 05/05/2006 6:33:57 AM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
My Dad used to stub his cigs out in our eyes when he was done with 'em. Not only THAT, but he used to drive us around in a smoke-filled, tin-can VW Bug with NO seatbelt protection. And if we were tall enough to reach the clutch pedal, and he was too drunk, we'd be driving and smoking for him. ;)

I didn't know you had such a spoiled upbringing..my father would smoke us as a cigarette..throw us out on the highway when he was done and then back up the car over us..but you can't tell young people that nowadays..;)

21 posted on 05/05/2006 6:39:50 AM PDT by BerniesFriend
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To: JamesP81; BlueStateDepression
One word buddy: taxes.

People pay 110% with taxes on cigarettes.  Not Big Tobacco and not the government.  The smokers pay for everything with cigarette taxes!


22 posted on 05/05/2006 6:43:34 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

There must be something in the air - and it ain't second hand tobacco smoke........but the nanny staters are obviously smoking something, and it sure isn't tobacco.

Has anyone ever heard of OPENNING a danged WINDOW????????


23 posted on 05/05/2006 6:44:17 AM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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To: BerniesFriend

Your child is 10 lbs overweight, lets remove them from the home...


24 posted on 05/05/2006 6:45:04 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: BlueStateDepression
Lets think about this for a minute. This state has a major city in utter ruins and they are spending their time with THIS? Simply Amamzing.

THANK you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

25 posted on 05/05/2006 6:45:50 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: BerniesFriend
"I'm just trying to protect those who cannot protect themselves," he said.


26 posted on 05/05/2006 6:47:47 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: sittnick
The guy is in a convertible in a corn field! For all practical purposes, he is "outside".

When I think of what goes on in so many foster homes, and the shortage of good ones, I can't help but think that DHS wants to make their job harder (or impossible) so that they can get more funding.

Just goes to show you how asinine Maine Board of Health is.  And the Partnership for a Tobacco Free Maine!

I wait to see how long it takes for someone to mention the fact that the kids are in an open convertable, standing up and NO SEATBELTS or booster seats!  LOL!  What a crock, eh?

And you are right!  MORE FUNDING PLEASE!  That's all they are about.  MONEY.  They could care less who they trample on to get more money! 

27 posted on 05/05/2006 6:48:20 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
I wait to see how long it takes for someone to mention the fact that the kids are in an open convertable, standing up and NO SEATBELTS or booster seats! LOL! What a crock, eh?

BWAAA HAHAHAHAHAHHA so much for that marketing director!!!
28 posted on 05/05/2006 6:49:34 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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"Don't worry about us, all we are asking for is a ban on smoking on domestic flights shorter than 2 hours duration. That's it. Nothing more. Why are you making such a big deal out of this? ..."


29 posted on 05/05/2006 6:49:34 AM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: BerniesFriend

"I'm just trying to protect those who cannot protect themselves," he said.

Your homes are next. Bureaucrats, carrying writs of assistance, will demand entry to homes to check that children are being raised according to the state's interpretation of the Marxist common good.

(Writs of assistance are one of factors that ignited the American revolutionary war.)


30 posted on 05/05/2006 6:49:43 AM PDT by sergeantdave (And though getting up in the world attracts attention, it does not establish solid worth.)
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To: BerniesFriend

This is what you get with career politicans in full time legislative sessions. Peple who feel they have to be seen to be doing something and have nothing better to do with their time then pass this kind of lunatic drivel.


31 posted on 05/05/2006 6:50:08 AM PDT by Prysson
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Kids are wimps these days. ;)

What is going on this week? Man, it's been a full court press by the Nanny Staters! Grrrrr!

The kids today are wimps because they are being dumbed down. 

Hey!  The anti's have bought over a million signatures out in California to stop smoking!  They PAID for the signatures!  What a bunch of low life's they are!

32 posted on 05/05/2006 6:50:50 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: BerniesFriend

The damn nanny state is out of control. When I as a kid, my parents didn't worry about such nonsense.

33 posted on 05/05/2006 6:52:41 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: BlueStateDepression
BWAAA HAHAHAHAHAHHA so much for that marketing director!!!

"A picture is worth a thousand words. "

34 posted on 05/05/2006 6:53:08 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion

AND a 24 hour smoke free period in Maine ... Can't believe I missed that thread - I must have been driving my rug rats around in my convertible, without car safety seats, no seatbelt for myself, top down, smoking up a storm.


35 posted on 05/05/2006 6:54:35 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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Luxury! Why, when I were a wee nipper...

Ah, great minds thing alike. Three Yorkshiremen, one of the best skits ever.


36 posted on 05/05/2006 6:55:03 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: SheLion

I must agree ;)


37 posted on 05/05/2006 6:57:17 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: swain_forkbeard
I don't like the smoke nazis either. But not lighting up in a car with kids in it makes sense to me

Ensuring your kids don't eat more than 5 milligrams of sugar per day makes sense to me...making sure your kids eat no more than 12 grams of saturated fat makes sense to me...making sure your kids get at least 5 hours' exercise a week makes sense to me...making sure your kids aren't exposed to harmful radiation, lead-based paint, harsh chemicals, toxic dust, and high-energy electromagnetic sources makes sense to me...not allowing your kids to watch morally or culturally offensive TV shows makes sense to me...teaching your kids manners makes sense to me...

My point is, a lot of things may make sense when it comes to raising kids, but where do you draw the line? And why is tobacco usage singled out as being the most harmful? If it's that bad for you--ban it entirely.

38 posted on 05/05/2006 7:02:17 AM PDT by Lou L
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"I just think you're going a little too far in this Legislature when we can't allow parents of their own children to take care of their own children," she said.

I like the way that this moron calls blowing carcinogens and poisons in smoke into children's lungs "taking care" of them. Next thing you know, this idiot will try to pass a law saying that parents can feed infants drain cleaning. After all that would be "taking care" of them, too...

39 posted on 05/05/2006 7:05:14 AM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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To: BerniesFriend

"I didn't know you had such a spoiled upbringing..my father would smoke us as a cigarette..throw us out on the highway when he was done and then back up the car over us..but you can't tell young people that nowadays..;)"

Thanks. I need a new monitor now, as the Dr. Pepper is still dripping from it as well as my nose....gotta be a papertowel around here somewhere....


40 posted on 05/05/2006 7:06:24 AM PDT by delphirogatio
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To: BerniesFriend

Whether you like it or not, smokers, your smoking in a confined space is noxious to children. My own experience as a child is that one can get used to the stench of a paper mill or a cattle feed lot, but not cigarette smoke. Both of my parents were smokers and, 45 years later, I still remember misery of long car trips in winter. Thank goodness we didn't have a car air conditioner back then!

I'm not a big believer in the health danger of second-hand smoke, but I think that this prohibition is not unreasonable. A parent's right to indulge his addictions should be balanced against his child's right to breathe unpolluted air in a confined space.


41 posted on 05/05/2006 7:12:54 AM PDT by RBroadfoot
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They already require child seats and boosters as they grow in cars. You have CPS all over the land ready to "counsel" you if any teacher or neighbor thinks the values you are teaching them is contrary to theirs. On and on and on.

People worry about provisions of the Patriot Act violating liberties, but turn a blind eye as the "I know better than you" crowd slowly invade many aspects of our lives and regulate what we may or may not do.

Like I keep saying, as they gradually prohibit our choices, soon the only choice left will be to abort your unborn child. That seems to be the only "choice" they deem appropriate any longer.


42 posted on 05/05/2006 7:13:48 AM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: WildHorseCrash
I like the way that this moron calls blowing carcinogens and poisons in smoke into children's lungs "taking care" of them. Next thing you know, this idiot will try to pass a law saying that parents can feed infants drain cleaning. After all that would be "taking care" of them, too...

Actually they should pass a law forbidding children in any motor vehicle unless it is a state approved emergency and then they can only be transported in a state approved emergency vehicle.

What this guy is actually saying is enough is enough and the government needs to mind it's own business.

43 posted on 05/05/2006 7:19:16 AM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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"I like the way that this moron calls blowing carcinogens and poisons in smoke into children's lungs "taking care" of them."

I didn't realize you think that we should ban toxic cleaning chemicals from homes. Why are you advocating that all parents live in filth?


44 posted on 05/05/2006 7:22:43 AM PDT by CSM (I went to the gas station this weekend and it was so popular that I had to wait for a pump. D-Chivas)
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I'm calling for end to the spin. If this Dem Dartez wants to say, "I think it's up to parents to decide whether or not to hurt their children; it's not our place to stop it," then she should do so. Stop all this crap about them "taking care" of them.
45 posted on 05/05/2006 7:24:43 AM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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I didn't realize you think that we should ban toxic cleaning chemicals from homes.

I'm sure "I didn't realize..." is the beginning of a lot of your sentences. (And if parents are harming their kids by using poison to clean their homes, then, yes, they should stop that, too.)

46 posted on 05/05/2006 7:27:00 AM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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To: Lou L; swain_forkbeard
My point is, a lot of things may make sense when it comes to raising kids, but where do you draw the line? And why is tobacco usage singled out as being the most harmful? If it's that bad for you--ban it entirely.

And what about these sick video games the kids spend hours on at home after school?  Poisoning their minds.  I would much rather my kid be exposed to a little tobacco smoke any day then allowed to wrap their young minds around these sick video games!

"Grand Thief Auto" comes to mind!

47 posted on 05/05/2006 7:29:52 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: WildHorseCrash; BerniesFriend
I like the way that this moron calls blowing carcinogens and poisons in smoke into children's lungs "taking care" of them. Next thing you know, this idiot will try to pass a law saying that parents can feed infants drain cleaning. After all that would be "taking care" of them, too...

He didn't advocate blowing smoke into a child's lungs.  He advocates taking care of their own children and when parents "take care of their children" they protect them from certain things.  You have completely twisted this man's words.  And for that, I resent it.  Get the words straight before you feed into them, ok?

48 posted on 05/05/2006 7:32:58 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: RBroadfoot

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49 posted on 05/05/2006 7:35:00 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Gabz
What this guy is actually saying is enough is enough and the government needs to mind it's own business.

Thank you!

50 posted on 05/05/2006 7:36:25 AM PDT by SheLion
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