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Arizona's Prop 200 Screening Out Illegal (Alien) Voters
NewsMax.com ^ | Monday, May 9, 2005 11:45 a.m. EDT

Posted on 05/06/2006 10:01:52 PM PDT by dennisw

Prop 200 Screening Out Illegal Voters

Stricter immigration laws now on the books in Arizona that require elections officials to check for proof of citizenship have uncovered thousands of new registrants who don't qualify to vote.

According to the Arizona Daily Star, state election officials credit the citizenship requirement contained in Proposition 200, the illegal-immigration initiative passed last November, for screening out the illegal voters.

In Arizona's Prima County alone, elections officials have rejected 59 percent of all applicants in the last two weeks - or 423 of the 712 new registrants.

"We rejected none during the same period last year," when six times as many people were registering because of the presidential election, said Registrar of Voters Chris Roads. "There was nothing in the law that required a rejection" last year, he explained.

Most voter registration forms rejected by Prima County since April 20, when officials started keeping track, were submitted by new voters who provided no valid proof of citizenship whatsoever, Roads said.

Despite the fact that it's illegal for non-citizens to vote, the rejections had Arizona Democrats up in arms.

Paul Eckerstrom, chairman of the Prima County Democratic Party, complained that forcing Arizona voters to prove their citizenship is "anti-American and anti-democracy."

"It's just another obstacle for voters to deal with," Eckerstrom griped. "The whole idea behind this thing is to suppress voter turnout."

He said Proposition 200's "real intent" was to make it difficult for voters - especially those inclined to vote Democratic - to cast a ballot.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; deadvoters; democrats; demonrats; dimorats; dnc; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; kerry; leftists; rat; rats; voterfraud
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1 posted on 05/06/2006 10:01:54 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
Paul Eckerstrom, chairman of the Prima County Democratic Party, complained that forcing Arizona voters to prove their citizenship is "anti-American and anti-democracy."

.....This is INSANE!How can proving citizenship be " anti American"???

2 posted on 05/06/2006 10:05:24 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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forcing Arizona voters to prove their citizenship is "anti-American and anti-democracy."

So I guess asking Patches Kennedy for his license and registration was anti-American, and we should just forget the whole thing.

3 posted on 05/06/2006 10:07:35 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (If you flame me I'll ignore you. Assume that to mean I think you're an idiot not worth my time.)
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To: dennisw
"It's just another obstacle for voters to deal with," Eckerstrom griped.

Any voter who gripes about having to show an ID to prevent bad votes doesn't deserve to vote.

Why would a voter object to keeping out votes that would make his own vote less meamingful?

4 posted on 05/06/2006 10:09:03 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (If you flame me I'll ignore you. Assume that to mean I think you're an idiot not worth my time.)
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To: dennisw
In Arizona's Prima County alone, elections officials have rejected 59 percent of all applicants in the last two weeks - or 423 of the 712 new registrants.

In ONE county alone!! Can you imagine what the numbers are throughout the rest of the country?

Wake up America, don't you realize that illegal aliens can vote to change the course of our country? Does anyone care? Socialism here we come...

5 posted on 05/06/2006 10:09:34 PM PDT by janetgreen (THE WHITE HOUSE FIDDLES WHILE AMERICA IS INVADED!)
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To: dennisw
In Arizona's Prima County alone, elections officials have rejected 59 percent of all applicants in the last two weeks - or 423 of the 712 new registrants.

During the communist day of illegal protests, the liberals were signing up all the illegals to vote.
It would be wise if all states adopted such a measure do to the blatantness of the left wing communists that day. It's the only way to insure our elections retain their elective representation through democracy rather than through an illegal foreign mob rule.

6 posted on 05/06/2006 10:10:06 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: dennisw

Funny how Democrats want to give away American voting power to foreigners and call the defenders of our country anti-American.


7 posted on 05/06/2006 10:10:30 PM PDT by BinaryBoy
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To: dennisw

"According to the Arizona Daily Star, state election officials credit the citizenship requirement contained in Proposition 200, the illegal-immigration initiative passed last November, for screening out the illegal voters. "


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This is great! Every state should pass such a law.


8 posted on 05/06/2006 10:10:38 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: pollywog

Registering to vote when not a citizen should be grounds to refuse citizenship and deport. Even if there are here legally.


9 posted on 05/06/2006 10:12:21 PM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: dennisw

Don't see any mention of prosecution for perjury. I think when you register you sign under penalty of perjury that you are a citizen and reside at the address stated on the registration form. There is a "vote dilution" civil rights case here if laws qualifying electors are not enforced. Each citizen's vote is being unconstitutionally diluted (and congressional seats based) upon persons not legally entitled to vote. Where is the civil rights community on this?>


10 posted on 05/06/2006 10:13:41 PM PDT by Draco
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To: dennisw
Despite the fact that it's illegal for non-citizens to vote, the rejections had Arizona Democrats up in arms.

They have to resort to cheating to win elections. Americans won't fund or vote for them.

I think the democrat party is gasping for breath. Political correctness drove too many people away. It was a form of government mandated mind control. People don't like being forced to think contrary to their conscience.

11 posted on 05/06/2006 10:13:59 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To get an idea of the damage illegal voters can do, consider what happens in counties containing Indian reservations. The Indian voters can vote their approval for every tax increase that comes along, enjoy whatever benefits those additional taxes provide, and never have to pay a dime out of their own pockets. Enough votes from these illegals could easily bankrupt a town, city, or county.


12 posted on 05/06/2006 10:15:31 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Democrats: soulless minions of orthodoxy.)
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To: dennisw

Bring Prop 200 to Texas!


13 posted on 05/06/2006 10:17:13 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (Cinco de Whato?)
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To: Draco
Don't see any mention of prosecution for perjury.

Sorry. Political correctness dictates foreign invaders are law exempt. It's racist to deny them their right to take over the U.S. government.

14 posted on 05/06/2006 10:17:30 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: dennisw
He said Proposition 200's "real intent" was to make it difficult for voters - especially those inclined to vote Democratic - to cast a ballot.

If they can dig up dead people to vote, I'm sure the live ones would do just fine. Don't worry about it.

15 posted on 05/06/2006 10:20:16 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: dennisw

It sure is funny hearing the scumbag Democrats howl about how their base of illiterate parasites gets squeezed out of voting over silly things like.... United States citizenship.


16 posted on 05/06/2006 10:20:39 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dennisw
elections officials have rejected 59 percent of all applicants

Hate to think what it might be here in CA. Will never know thanks to motor voter.

17 posted on 05/06/2006 10:21:31 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: EternalVigilance

In Arizona's Prima County alone, elections officials have rejected 59 percent of all applicants in the last two weeks - or 423 of the 712 new registrants.


18 posted on 05/06/2006 10:23:28 PM PDT by Gelato
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To: Texas_Jarhead

Some enterprising congress critter will no doubt put forth legislation expanding the Real ID Act to require ID for federal voting.


19 posted on 05/06/2006 10:23:39 PM PDT by umgud (the profound is only so to those that it is)
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To: ncountylee
Hate to think what it might be here in CA. Will never know thanks to motor voter.

If you look at the county map of the 2004 elections, you'll see there aren't many blue areas to be found. Those that are there are heavily illegal, and don't ask for citizenship papers.
Because California is mostly red, haven't you ever wondered how they always pull off the democrat elections?

20 posted on 05/06/2006 10:31:59 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: umgud
Some enterprising congress critter will no doubt put forth legislation expanding the Real ID Act to require ID for federal voting.

I'd support it. Why should people not want their vote counted?
In the past, I'd have been reluctant, but with the democrats multiple voting (as in the people caught in 2004), the dead voting, and now all the illegals, I don't see where we could have a fair election otherwise.

21 posted on 05/06/2006 10:35:28 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: concerned about politics
Because California is mostly red, haven't you ever wondered how they always pull off the democrat elections?

I do know that the illegal alien vote, here in Orange County, cost B1 Bob the election (aided by a GOP sell out).

22 posted on 05/06/2006 10:37:03 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: dennisw

It is legal for LEGAL - GREEN CARD Holders - with PERMANENT RESIDENCE STATUS to vote in SOME local and State elections.....NOT ALL....with proof of residence and ID.

"Voting
One of the most important privileges of democracy in the United States of America is the right to participate in choosing elected officials through voting. As a Permanent Resident you can only vote in local and state elections that do not require you to be a US citizen. It is very important that you do not vote in national, state or local elections that require a voter to be a US citizen when you are not a US citizen. There are criminal penalties for voting when you are not a US citizen and it is a requirement for voting. You can be removed (deported) from the US if you vote in elections limited to US citizens."



23 posted on 05/06/2006 10:46:33 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION, IT INCLUDES TERRORIST SLEEPER CELLS!!)
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To: dennisw

Ping!


24 posted on 05/06/2006 11:06:25 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: dennisw

If these people get their way, such that any visitor to the US should have the civil right to vote, then they might as well start handing out voter applications to all passengers of incoming flights at all the international terminals on US soil!

The absurdity of constitutional rights for every person on the planet whether they are citizen or not or wheather they adherer to the oath of allegiance to the constitution as a voter knows no bounds.


25 posted on 05/06/2006 11:16:51 PM PDT by seastay
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To: janetgreen
Wake up America, don't you realize that illegal aliens can vote to change the course of our country? Does anyone care?

There are quite a few here that don't think illegal immigrants is a key issue.

26 posted on 05/06/2006 11:20:35 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: dennisw

check this out , unbelievable:

In Chicago, Democratic campaign worker Howie Connum expressed frustration at his inability to get many of the protestors to register to vote. "These morons think that because they are here illegally and don't speak English that they shouldn't vote," said a fuming Connum. "I tell them that their votes are a way to safe guard their rights, but they have an overblown fear of getting caught. There's a basic lack of understanding about how the system works."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1627102/posts


27 posted on 05/06/2006 11:22:51 PM PDT by seastay
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To: concerned about politics

Even John Connally admitted in his book that he gathered illegal(not to be confused with illegal immigrants) for Lyndon Johnson.


28 posted on 05/06/2006 11:39:16 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: dennisw

Arizona's Prop 200 Screening Out Illegal (Alien) Voters



But...but I thought they were "just here to do the jobs Americans won't do."



(/sarc)


29 posted on 05/06/2006 11:47:16 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I love coffee....I love it GOOD!)
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To: Darkwolf377

Why would a voter object to keeping out votes that would make his own vote less meamingful?



So that Democrats can win elections?


30 posted on 05/06/2006 11:48:33 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I love coffee....I love it GOOD!)
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To: janetgreen
Yea, imagine that.

Waddya wanna bet that most of these folks took advantage of "Motor Voter" laws?

L

31 posted on 05/06/2006 11:52:18 PM PDT by Lurker (You can't bargain with a rabid dog.)
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To: seastay
Mr. Howie Connum is basically admitting to multiple felonies here.

Where's Fitzgerald when you need him?

L

32 posted on 05/06/2006 11:56:24 PM PDT by Lurker (You can't bargain with a rabid dog.)
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To: dennisw

This article is almost one year old. And it's PIMA County, not PRIMA County. Reason number 351 why NewsMax is not to be trusted.


33 posted on 05/06/2006 11:57:10 PM PDT by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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"It's just another obstacle for voters to deal with," Eckerstrom griped. "The whole idea behind this thing is to suppress voter turnout."

Finally, a Democrat speak the truth, except he left out a word...

"It's just another obstacle for voters to deal with," Eckerstrom griped. "The whole idea behind this thing is to suppress illegal voter turnout."

34 posted on 05/06/2006 11:57:32 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: dennisw
He said Proposition 200's "real intent" was to make it difficult for voters - especially those inclined to vote Democratic - to cast a ballot.

That's a strange statement from this jughead. I wish he'd been told to elaborate and tell us what he meant by it. To me, it means illegal aliens tend to vote for DemocRATS.

35 posted on 05/07/2006 12:05:52 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Remember the Alamo!)
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To: dennisw

Sweet.


36 posted on 05/07/2006 12:11:56 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: dennisw
He said Proposition 200's "real intent" was to make it difficult for voters - especially those inclined to vote Democratic - to cast a ballot.

Lies never die. Especially really pathetic ones that Democrats depend upon.
37 posted on 05/07/2006 12:14:18 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: Darkwolf377

"Any voter who gripes about having to show an ID to prevent bad votes doesn't deserve to vote."

I get mad if they don't.


38 posted on 05/07/2006 12:50:40 AM PDT by jwh_Denver (Illegal immigration 24/7, the GOP ain't making it 24/7, Oil 24/7)
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To: Darkwolf377

It's still ridiculous. You can show a household bill for crying out loud, or the sample ballot they send you. You don't need a picture ID here. Of course, the illegals can get those down at DMV anyway.


39 posted on 05/07/2006 1:22:32 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: ncountylee

When I lived in HB, I would regularly bring my passport when I went to vote. I would just open it and innocently ask if they wanted to see my ID and proof of citizenship. The older volunteers would just snicker and grin, the younger more 'progressive ones' would actually get all huffy with me.

I thought it was great fun and always started conversation going in the lines...heh heh heh.


40 posted on 05/07/2006 3:09:45 AM PDT by Khurkris (Don't blame me. I never answer the phone.)
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To: dennisw
This NewsMax article is a good example of mis-informatiom.

They write an article about an article and leave out a key statement in the original article.

"We recognized there was going to be some potential confusion", said Secretary of State Kevin Tyne. "People are still learning about the new rules"

Source

41 posted on 05/07/2006 4:16:35 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: pollywog

Texas is long over-due for this. Why let the Mexicans in the Rio Grande colonias vote in our elections? And Bexar Co. (San Antonio) needs to be cleaned out, too.


42 posted on 05/07/2006 4:20:10 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: pollywog

Gadz - making sure only CITIZENS vote is clearly PRO-American! Lefties are so...so...ARGH!! Must be a B12 deficiency - they're insane! I prescribe beef.


43 posted on 05/07/2006 4:24:17 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: dennisw

"...Paul Eckerstrom, chairman of the Prima County Democratic Party, complained that forcing Arizona voters to prove their citizenship is "anti-American and anti-democracy..."

Clear evidence why I hate 99.9% of F#*king DIMS and will never vote for one regardless of how spineless Republicans have become.


44 posted on 05/07/2006 4:27:43 AM PDT by Postman
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To: dennisw

The second step in the mis-information technique is to take a year old article and post at FR as if it is current.


45 posted on 05/07/2006 4:29:05 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: dennisw
In Arizona's Prima County alone, elections officials have rejected 59 percent of all applicants in the last two weeks - or 423 of the 712 new registrants.

If nothing else should wake up Bush, this must. Surely, he knows which party these new voters will side. Fine employers and build that fence NOW!

46 posted on 05/07/2006 4:36:43 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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Because suddenly lawbreaking is the accepted behaviour, another reason the illegals are so bad for this country. It's become fashionable to break every law and get away with it.

This illegal alien breaking and entering and stealing welfare benefits and every right that was ONCE reserved for American legal taxpaying voters is now accepted especially by the open-border trolls.

The two parties have become so vote hungry and so hungry for that lobby money and pandering to big business that they have lost all sense of values or consideration for the citizens they were elected to work for and protect.

Corruption and crime are now the accepted norm.

And we who are still fighting for the America we all know and love are attacked by a few and they know who they are but they are the ones who are anti-American with their open-border socialist communist agenda's.


47 posted on 05/07/2006 4:43:33 AM PDT by stopem (To allow a bunch of third world country nationals to divide Americans is unconscionable!)
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To: dennisw

This article is a year old.


48 posted on 05/07/2006 4:44:04 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: janetgreen

Yup, socialism and communist will reign supreme in 2006, 2008 and the GOP is allowing it for some strange reason. Does the words "war on terror", or "tough on terroism "mean anything to them anymore?

Leaving the border wide open enough for a (God forbid) nuclear weapon can come thru is criminal and not a misdemeaner! Is giving businesses their cheap labor worth it if a weapon enters? Or hoping they will get a few more votes worth it in the long run?

WAKE up GOP! Get back to your roots and values!


49 posted on 05/07/2006 4:47:59 AM PDT by stopem (To allow a bunch of third world country nationals to divide Americans is unconscionable!)
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To: ThomasThomas
It is essentially the same as filing a false document, which is a felony under US Code Title 18, and conviction of a felony makes any immigrant, legal or otherwise, deportable.

Basically, we need to enforce our current laws.
50 posted on 05/07/2006 4:51:28 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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