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Posted on 05/16/2006 9:24:55 AM PDT by Paul Ross
the pubbies have a problem. their choices like those of the people on flight
93 are between certain death and near certain death.
If they allow the illegals citizenship--the illegal/legals will do what they did after 1986: vote democratic and tip the country to a democratic majority as they have done in california and that because after 1993 in California many mexicans began voting in california to preserve gov bennies--for which the dems excel. There won't be social security benefit for Americans of retirement age from the illegals/legals because they will suck up what ever they put into the economy--as they are now. They won't yield a net gain. ie they won't pay for anyone's social security.
Everyone but everyone who has ever been to any government building that dispenses anything from health care to drivers lisences can't help but notice that the place is swamped with foreigners. Basically the welfare state system set up in the 1960's is being totally gamed by foreigners.
If the president gets his way he will demoralize the republicans bringing on the effects of the 1992 & 1996 elections. There may not even be a third party but when W builds in a reversal of the fortunes of the war of 1848--it creates a kind of passivity in people when they see their leaders commit them to the status of world historical losers.
If Bush decides to put up a wall and expel the illegals then there is a chance to preserve Republican majorities. It would be helpful to promise that the USA will kill the cost of water desalination and transport so as to make it economically possible to turn the deserts 1000 miles from any desert seacoast -- green. (this would increase the habitable size of the USA by a third and double the habitable size of Mexico.)This work is already ongoing and will be accomplished in five years or so--or in about the same time frame that GM promises to have a cost effective fuel cell car. For GM as it is for the GOP its do or die time.
The chief difference between the pubbies current predicament and flight 93 is that they are currently in the cockpit. (if you presume that bush is a republican or at least more of a republican than a bilderburger.)
The point here is that if these guys cannot act like loyal americans at least they can act like republicans. ie people who have a stake in the continuity of the republican party.
Since they are not doing this the republicans in the white house and senate all need to be smacked on both sides of the face and kicked in the but.
His name is Fox....and he runs American immigration........nobody else wants to.
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Wholeheartedly agree.
However, [Horror of Horrors] this goes against the President's speech and some here want to squelch alternative thoughts.
You know those on the right are going off the deep end when they have to start using old DEM's/MSM attacks on this fine President.
M. Reagan is pathetic. Has never accomplished a thing in his life outside of riding his old man's coattails to his position as a political commentator (just like his other foolish brother.....both living off daddy still and both speaking in his name a bit too often).
I agree!We need those borders closed right now not next week or not when the guys in Washington decide it needs to be done right now..
I don't know whether to laugh, or cry. SO, I guess I will give laughter a try:
Scott Ott's Scrappleface winners:
Seeking Middle Ground, Bush Moves Border
Lyn Nofziger worked for Reagan and Nixon. That makes him a Dem how?
It is foolish not to address all issues now - There is no need to wait and do them separately to where nothing gets done on the whole in the long run -
The notion you are taking (to only look at the border now) is the same idiotic notions that DEMs make on taxes..."We can't talk about tax cuts until we solve the deficit issue"....When the reality is both go hand in hand. Cutting taxes will create growth (rising tide lifts all boats), from this growth one can deal with deficits....
The reality is there are issues with the border, the temporary workers permits and the 12 million illegals that are currently here that all need to be addressed now. These issues go hand in hand with border security. Lastly many seem under the false impression that the vast majority of illegals simply "sneak" across the border in the dead of night.....this is a portion of them without question...but a large portion also come here legally! through workers permits and then never leave!
Securing the border does nothing regarding this large segment of illegals. Nor does securing the border alone do anything with regard to those currently here illegally.
Those illegals, we must address them at the same time as we are addressing the border. Those that have criminal records (outside of simply being illegal) should be acted on and removed. Those who are illegal and have no additional criminal record should start the process of either becoming a supporting citizen of this nation, with policies that demand or influence assimilation, or they should leave! Plain and simple.
This is what the President is suggesting.
Um, where did I suggest he was one? I said it shows that those on the "right" are going off the deep end when they have to start using old (and tired) DEM/MSM attack / talking points against this fine President.
Secure the borders. Build a wall. Then we'll debate guest workers.
It really does call in to question the allegiance and loyalty of the President and the RINOS in the Senate to THIS COUNTRY.
Giving "maverick" a whole new meaning. Certainly isn't "moderate."
This President has earned cynicism on this issue, as have the RINOs in the Senate who are perpetrating this travesty.
With all due respect, he is not. The border will not be secured.
Dare I print my comments of this morning and get accused of 'spamming' or get in a tit-for-tat with deranged Bushbots?
The border should be sealed first. Period. A 'Wall' or other physical barrier is necessary first, then we discuss everything else.
What Base? He has lost my confidence.
How you gonna listen to someone you despise? Bush's contempt for his electoral base couldn't be clearer.
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