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05/17/06 | Son Of The Godfather

Posted on 05/17/2006 6:42:22 AM PDT by Son Of The Godfather

Ok friends,

It seems I've irked a Muslim in Britain with one of my postings somewhere. I received quite a scolding via e-mail from a gentleman who is certain the media distorts the truth about Islam, Muslims, etc...

After reading through the rant, I thought it would be a great opportunity to see if I could actually have a dialog about the wonderful "Religion of Peace" (this, after reading about how I'll think differently once they come for me).

Instead of a flame war with him, I'm going to actually see if he has any answers about some things in the Koran (ie: Mo's child bride, kill infidels wherever you find them, etc.) I'll keep it civil for now, as I'm curious how he will resolve some of these issues.

Anyone have questions they want me to include? Are there any websites you can recommend to give me ammo? (there was one that had listed all the evil things in the Koran that I'm trying to find).

Thanks in advance! Son Of The Godfather


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To: Son Of The Godfather

Pick up Robert Spencer's book "Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam"


51 posted on 05/17/2006 7:26:05 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: All

Wow, seriously folks, thanks for all the excellent suggestions.

I'll see if I can get a response and post the dialogue here.


52 posted on 05/17/2006 7:26:09 AM PDT by Son Of The Godfather
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To: Son Of The Godfather

If Islam is so superior, ask him why the bulk of our foreign aid and charity goes to helping people live while the bulk of Islamic aid goes to helping people die.


53 posted on 05/17/2006 7:27:20 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christ has a tolerance for sinners; liberals have a tolerance for sin.)
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To: Son Of The Godfather

Ask if he's read anything by Dante...


54 posted on 05/17/2006 7:28:26 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Son Of The Godfather
I don't know a lot about Islam, but I do have a few comments.

If you manage to have a productive dialog with this person you may be able to learn about their beliefs and what they believe Islam to be which may or may not be the same as what others believe.

I grew up Catholic, and from my own experience there are some significant differences between the official church teachings on some topics than what is believed by many who are Catholic.

Anyone have questions they want me to include? Are there any websites you can recommend to give me ammo? (there was one that had listed all the evil things in the Koran that I'm trying to find).

It's my understanding that most of the "evil thing" that are commonly mentioned aren't actually in the Koran, but in the Sunnah and Hadith.

The Sunnah seem to be writings on how Muhammad lived his life. The Hadith seems to be more of a narration of how the Prophet lived his life or about things of which he approved.

It seems that the Koran and Sunnah are the central core of Islam. Some Hadith may be as intrgral to Islam as well, but there appear to be some Hadith that are accepted by some sects but not by others. There are likely even sects that only consider the Koran itself as an absolute truth.

As I've said I really don't know a lot about Islam. However the Hadiths like Hadith 9:57, which appears to say kill those who convert from Islam, appear to be accepted as genuine religious teaching by the majority of the major sects.

There are a huge number of Muslims justifying horrible things through Islam, and it seems like only a small portion of Muslims are willing to speak out against such things.

Because of that it's doesn't matter very much to me if the terrorist's portrayal of Islam is accurate or a subversion of Islam. In my opinion it's up to Muslims to determine how their religion is portrayed, and it appears that few care very much if it's portrayed as the religion of terror.

If they are devout and feel that is a horrible subversion of their religion, they should be aggressively working in opposition to those subverting their religion, not complaining that others view them as complicit in terrorism.

Do some web searching on Hadiths and Sunnah. There's a lot of information out there. Try and avoid the heavily biased sites and try finding multiple sources to compare.

55 posted on 05/17/2006 7:30:29 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: VRWC_PA
"It is forbidden to consume the excrement of animals or their nasal secretions. But if such are mixed in minute proportions into other foods their consumption is not forbidden"

I don't really know how to react to this. I don't think we are living in the same century as these people.

56 posted on 05/17/2006 7:32:57 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: kanawa

Thank you that's what I was thinking of.


57 posted on 05/17/2006 7:35:08 AM PDT by mikemach5
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To: Son Of The Godfather

Ask him why I need 4 male Muslim witnesses observing my rape before a charge of rape can be made.

Ask him why Muslim men would stand around watching another Muslim man rape a woman.


58 posted on 05/17/2006 7:40:25 AM PDT by Gingersnap
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To: Gingersnap

or a goat?



dont forget the poor goats.....


59 posted on 05/17/2006 7:43:33 AM PDT by halfright (9/11 3,000 Americans MURDERED...MINE the borders! N O W !!! Semper Fi !!)
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To: Son Of The Godfather

Did he say what you said made him mad?


60 posted on 05/17/2006 7:45:38 AM PDT by restornu
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To: Son Of The Godfather
STUDY THESE VERY CAREFULLY:

MUSLIMS INSTRUCTED TO KILL CHRISTIANS AND JEWS [9:29-30] JUST FOR SPEAKING AGAINST ISLAM [9:32]!

KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS PROHIBITED:

KORAN [9.32] They desire to put out the light of Allah with their mouths, and Allah will not consent save to perfect His light, though the unbelievers are averse.

THIS IS MUHAMMAD'S EXAMPLE JUSTIFYING THE KILLING OF DUTCH FILM MAKER THEO van GOGH:

Hadith Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Chapter 41: THE MURDER OF KA'B B. ASHRAF, (THE EVIL GENIUS) OF THE JEWS [for authoring songs and jokes about Muhammad]

HADITH Sahih Muslim [19:4436] It has been narrated on the authority of Jabir that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:
Who will kill Ka'b b. Ashraf? He has maligned Allah, the Exalted, and His Messenger. Muhammad b. Maslama said: Messenger of Allah, do you wish that I should kill him? He said: Yes.
He said: Permit me to talk (to him in the way I deem fit). He said: Talk (as you like). So, Muhammad b. Maslama came to Ka'b and talked to him, referred to the old friendship between them and said: This man (i. e. the Holy Prophet) has made up his mind to collect charity (from us) and this has put us to a great hardship. When be heard this, Ka'b said: By God, you will be put to more trouble by him. Muhammad b. Maslama said: No doubt, now we have become his followers and we do not like to forsake him until we see what turn his affairs will take. I want that you should give me a loan. He said: What will you mortgage? He said: What do you want? He said: Pledge me your women. He said: You are the most handsome of the Arabs; should we pledge our women to you? He said: Pledge me your children. He said: The son of one of us may abuse us saying that he was pledged for two wasqs of dates, but we can pledge you (cur) weapons. He said: All right. Then Muhammad b. Maslama promised that he would come to him with Harith, Abu 'Abs b. Jabr and Abbad b. Bishr. So they came and called upon him at night. He came down to them. Sufyan says that all the narrators except 'Amr have stated that his wife said: I hear a voice which sounds like the voice of murder. He said: It is only Muhammad b. Maslama and his foster-brother, Abu Na'ila. When a gentleman is called at night even it to be pierced with a spear, he should respond to the call. Muhammad said to his companions: As he comes down, I will extend my hands towards his head and when I hold him fast, you should do your job. So when he came down and he was holding his cloak under his arm, they said to him: We sense from you a very fine smell. He said: Yes, I have with me a mistress who is the most scented of the women of Arabia. He said: Allow me to smell (the scent on your head). He said: Yes, you may smell. So he caught it and smelt. Then he said: Allow me to do so (once again). He then held his head fast and said to his companions: Do your job. And they killed him.

APOSTATES AND "young people with foolish thoughts"
TO BE KILLED BY ANYONE WHO FINDS THEM (e.g. honor killings):

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:260] Narrated Ikrima:
Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [6:61:577] Narrated 'Ali:
I heard the Prophet saying, "In the last days (of the world) there will appear young people with foolish thoughts and ideas. They will give good talks, but they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out of its game, their faith will not exceed their throats. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for there will be a reward for their killers on the Day of Resurrection."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [9:84:64] Narrated 'Ali:
Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy). No doubt I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, where-ever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection."

AND MODERATE MUSLIMS TOO:

HADITH Sahih Muslim [5:2325] Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:
A group would secede itself (from the Ummah) when there would be dissension among the Muslims. Out of the two groups who would be nearer the truth would kill them.

Unlike Christians, Muslims can pretend to deny their faith to fool unbelievers (Al-Taqiyyah):

KORAN [16.106] He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief-- on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.

UNEQUAL JUSTICE:

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "...we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "...the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel."

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

WOMEN (and girls) IN ISLAM:

KORAN [2.223] Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like, and do good beforehand for yourselves, and be careful (of your duty) to Allah, and know that you will meet Him, and give good news to the believers.

KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:67] Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [5:58:234] Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:64] Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

THE JOOOOOOZ IN ISLAM:

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

KORAN [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a Jew behind me."

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

© Religion of Peace

KORAN (Shakir translation): http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

ISLAM DELENDA EST!

61 posted on 05/17/2006 7:48:26 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Gingersnap
Ask him why Muslim men would stand around watching another Muslim man rape a woman.

I believe it is because he is next line and the line can only be three long at any one time.

Just call me, inman bert.

62 posted on 05/17/2006 8:02:56 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Kooks For Kinky)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Uh oh, I may have preformed any abortion when I flushed this morning.


63 posted on 05/17/2006 8:06:33 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Kooks For Kinky)
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To: Son Of The Godfather

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com


64 posted on 05/17/2006 8:09:03 AM PDT by Luigi Vasellini (60% of Saudis, 58%of Iraqis, 55%of Kuwaitis,50% of Jordanians married 1st or 2nd cousins. LOL!!!)
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To: Son Of The Godfather
No questions here, none at all.

EVERYTHING I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT ISLAM--

I LEARNED ON 9/11.

65 posted on 05/17/2006 8:11:13 AM PDT by stockstrader
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To: CT
Go to 'Ask The Imam.'

The Ask the Imam site is something I ran across on 9/12. It will tell you all you need to know about islam. Which is basically that you have to believe whatever the imam says and do whatever he says and be sure you check your brain at the mosque door before you sniff guy butt.

If you study islam you will see that it is totally converse to what America was founded on. It's anti-American to it's core.

66 posted on 05/17/2006 8:12:39 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (What is is about "illegal" you don't understand?)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Wow! That's incredible.


67 posted on 05/17/2006 8:17:02 AM PDT by no dems (A Winning Campaign Theme for a Conservative in '08: "PUTTING AMERICA FIRST")
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To: no dems
I asked him if he used his unclean hand.
He kind of stuttered.
68 posted on 05/17/2006 8:28:34 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: restornu

>>>Did he say what you said made him mad?

Actually, my first reply asked this. I'm sure I left some doozies in a few places!

My hope is that he replies and then I can [ahem] "apologize" so that he will be open to answering some of the excellent questions posed here.

Damn, Free Republic is an excellent source with a lot of smart folks!

Thanks again everyone. Will update when (if) I get a reply.


69 posted on 05/17/2006 8:28:53 AM PDT by Son Of The Godfather
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To: Son Of The Godfather

70 posted on 05/17/2006 8:29:42 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

OK, now THAT'S funny!


71 posted on 05/17/2006 8:34:05 AM PDT by Son Of The Godfather
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To: AppyPappy
"The Quoran can only be understood by people who speak Arabic. "

Don't really understand the logic of this unless it was meant as sarcasm. The koran was not written in arabic!

72 posted on 05/17/2006 8:41:55 AM PDT by navyblue
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To: navyblue
Don't really understand the logic of this unless it was meant as sarcasm.

Not sarcasm--debate stopper. When you touch on "sensitive surrahs", they shut down the debate by pointing out that your translation is incorrect and you can't read the "real" wording.

73 posted on 05/17/2006 8:59:13 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christ has a tolerance for sinners; liberals have a tolerance for sin.)
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To: Son Of The Godfather


I'll kill you for denying Islam is a religion of peace!


74 posted on 05/17/2006 9:04:53 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
I don't really know how to react to this. I don't think we are living in the same century as these people.


MEDIEVAL

adj 1: relating to or belonging to the Middle Ages; "Medieval scholars"; "Medieval times" [syn: mediaeval] 2: as if belonging to the Middle Ages; old-fashioned and unenlightened;

The scariest part is; this is contemporary thinking from Ayatollah Khomeini - Remember the "Islamic Revolution" in Iran in 1979? These are his thoughts! I sure hope that Canada can figure out a way to get a handle on these folks. I've met some really great Canadians in my life. The thought of having the National Guard and a fence between our countries saddens me.
75 posted on 05/17/2006 9:13:31 AM PDT by VRWC_PA
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To: Son Of The Godfather
"Anyone have questions they want me to include?"

I know one that you should NOT include.

I asked a moslem in Turkey if islamic jihadists quit terrorizing during ramadan.

It really lit his fuse!

77 posted on 05/17/2006 9:17:27 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Son Of The Godfather
Ask him, Who's in Charge?

I mean, what will happen is that you will pose these questions; he will hem and haw, and direct you to texts of the Koran and from Hadith that say the opposite; you will go back to texts that suggest the opposite of what he is claiming. That sort of "tu quoque" kind of argument can go on forever.

No. The real question is, Who's in Charge? And if he says that each believer can read the Koran as he sees fit, well, then, where's the authority in THAT?

78 posted on 05/17/2006 9:36:32 AM PDT by Remole
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To: All

No response so far... Perhaps it was a drive-by e-mailing.

Here is the original message I received:



LA-IL-LA-HA IL-LIL-LA-HA


THERE YOU GO YOU JUST CONFIRMED THAT ALLAH IS THE ONE YOU WORSHIP


OH AND YEAH ENOUGH OF YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT MUSLIMS COS AS EASY AS YOU WRITE
THE CRAP AS EASY AS THE WRITER CAN BE SORTED OUT!!!!


TAKE IT WHAT EVER WAY YOU WANT COS I AINT BOTHERED, KEEP YOU DIRTY MOUTH
SHUT ABOUT MY RELIGION.

WHEN YOU REPLY (IF YUOU REPLY) UNLESS YOUR CRYING!!!

MAKE SURE YOU COME OUT WITH SOMETHING WHICH IS GOING CAUSE ME SOME DAMAGE
(OH WELL THATS GOING TO BE HARD COS YOU DISBELIEVERS DO NOT BOTHER ME)

ANOTHER THING YOU FIND IT FUNNY MUSLIMS KILLING ONE ANOTHER---YOU WONT FIND
IT FUNNY IF IT IS YOUR FAMILY THAT END UP GETTNG MASSACERD. (SEE DIFFERENT
WHEN ITS YOUR OWN)

YOU TALK AND JUDGE A RELIGION WHICH YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT)


NOTHING ABOUT YOU DISBELIEVERS BOTHERS ME COS YOUR GONNA ROTT IN HELL SO
GOOD LUCK WITH YOURLIFE COS WHEN YOUR DEAD YOUR DEAD AND ITS ALLAH YOUR GONNA
HAVE TO ANSWER TO AND TRUST ME YOU DISBELIEVERS ARE NOT GONNA BE LET OFF
LIGHTLY.



THINK TO YOURSELF ONE THING JUST LIKE WE CREATE CARS AND DESIGN THEM WHO
DESIGNED TRESS AND THE COLOURS AND THE DESIGN OF US (DARWINS THEORY LOAD
OF CRAP ALL THE SCIENTISTS HAVE SAID IT)


JUST LIKE WE CREATE THINGS WE WERE CREATED AND THE CREATOR OF ALL ANIMALS
AND US IS ALLAH. (AND NO ALLAH WAS NOT THE MOON GOD)


TREYING TO HELP YOU OUT NOT BRAIN WASH YOU.

I WAS A DIS BELIEVER ONCE THS IS WHY I KNOW THAT ISLAM IS THE TRUE RELIGION
COS I WOKE UP ONE DAY AND THAT WAS IT DRINKING,SMOKING EVERTHING FINISHED
AND TRUST ME LIFE HAS BEEN BEETER SINCE.

THE MEDIA ARE A LOAD OF CRAP NEVER TELL THE TRUTH BUT HEY ITS YOUR LIFE YOU
WANNA GO HELL FAIR DUE'S I WARNED YOU I DONE MY BIT BUT NEXT TIME YOU WRITE
SOMETHING ABOUT ISLAM THINK FIRST COS ONCE YOUR DEAD AND IN THAT GRAVE ALL
THE MONEY AND ALL THE FAMILY YOU GOT IS NOT GOING TO HELP (YEAH THERES PUNISHMENT
IN THE GRAVE) NOT WHAT YOU GUYS THINK THATS ITS STRAIGHT HEAVEN FOR EVERYONE
COS IF THAT WAS THE CASE THEN WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO BOTHER BEING GOOD AND
ALLAH WOULD NOT HAVE CREATED FINGERPRINTS HMMMMMMM (SAYS ALL THIS IN THE
HOLY QURAN) TOP SCIENTISTS HAVE NOT REVERTED TO ISLAM FOR NOTHING (AMERICANS
AS WELL) WE ARE GOING TO BE QUESTIONED


AS FOR THE CUBE WE PRAY TOWARDS (KALA KAABA) ITS AMAZING HOW ITS IN THE CENTRE
OF ALL THE COUNTRIES BET YOU DID NOT KNOW THAT. YOU REALLY NEED TO OPEN
UP YOUR HEART AND LOOK INTO THE REAL ISLAM ITS BEAUTIFUL NOT WHAT THE MEDIA
HAVE MADE IT OUT TO BE

AS FOR WOMEN COVERING THEMSELVES WELL IT BEATS HAVING A WOMEN WHO GOES OUT
HALF NAKED MAKES YOU THINK SHES HAVING AFFAIRS ALL THE TIME AND SHE GOT NO
RESPECT FOR YOU

WOMEN AND MEN ARE EQUAL IN ISLAM WOMEN COVER UP THEMSELVES COS THEY KNOW
THEY WANT A HAPPY MARRIAGE NOT ONE WHERE THERE IS NO TRUST (BROKEN HOME)
MORE CHANCE OF BEING RAPED COS YOUR EXPOSING YOURSELVES TOO MUCH.


REALISTICALLY ISLAM IS THE RIGHT RELIGION SO YOU CARRY ON WITH YOUR FOUL
MOUTHED COMMENTS

BUT I AM HERE IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT OUR RELIGION.



Now I just wish he'd respond so I can figure out what set him off! LOL


79 posted on 05/17/2006 10:26:53 AM PDT by Son Of The Godfather
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To: navyblue

Ask any Muslim. That is what they will say


80 posted on 05/17/2006 10:45:27 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Son Of The Godfather

Was this cut and paste from newspapers?
I've seen others just like it.
They all write this way.

Islam is the most pathetic so-called religion on earth.


81 posted on 05/17/2006 11:13:34 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: pgyanke
When you touch on "sensitive surrahs", they shut down the debate by pointing out that your translation is incorrect and you can't read the "real" wording.

Yeah, while convienently forgetting the fact that it was written in Aramaic not Arabic.

82 posted on 05/17/2006 2:00:35 PM PDT by mikemach5
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To: Son Of The Godfather
(OH WELL THATS GOING TO BE HARD COS YOU DISBELIEVERS DO NOT BOTHER ME)

ANOTHER THING YOU FIND IT FUNNY MUSLIMS KILLING ONE ANOTHER---YOU WONT FIND IT FUNNY IF IT IS YOUR FAMILY THAT END UP GETTNG MASSACERD. (SEE DIFFERENT WHEN ITS YOUR OWN)

So... he's not "bothered" by disbelievers, and yet he's hoping your family is massacared. Nice.

Oh... and how can you be a "DISBELIEVER" if:

THERE YOU GO YOU JUST CONFIRMED THAT ALLAH IS THE ONE YOU WORSHIP

Maybe I'm missing something here...

83 posted on 05/17/2006 2:06:23 PM PDT by mikemach5
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To: Son Of The Godfather
YOU MIGHT MENTION TO THIS LUNATIC THAT IT IS CONSIDERED A SIGN OF SERIES (sic) MENTAL DEFECT TO TYPE WITH ALL CAPS.

I don't think these folks will enter the 21st century, intellectually, until about the year 2512...
84 posted on 05/17/2006 3:46:34 PM PDT by VRWC_PA
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To: Tokra

Cool. I've been wondering about that for a while. Thanks.


85 posted on 05/17/2006 5:40:52 PM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: Son Of The Godfather
All the questions I've seen so far are of no practical use.

I don't care about their supernaturalist system other than how that weakness can be exploited in the WOT.

I have only 2 questions for him.

1. What would be the effect on Islam if the KALA KAABA disappeared in a 1 Megaton nuclear fireball?

2. Is it true that Islamics believe exposure to swine parts, blood, urine, and other bodily fluids will prevent your entering your concept of heaven?

Disclaimer: I'm not advocating either such action, but it would be interesting to hear his answer, even if it's a lie.

86 posted on 05/17/2006 6:55:33 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk. Those who talk don't know.)
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To: All

OK, I've responded with the question of how he can resolve Islam being compatible with civilized society, given the straightforward teachings outlined in "UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide's" excellent post.

Looking forward to the reply. ;)


87 posted on 05/18/2006 4:06:12 AM PDT by Son Of The Godfather
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To: VRWC_PA
"If a man __ God protect him from it! _ fornicates with an animal and ejaculates, ablution is necessary."

That clears one thing up...no wonder why liberals defend islam.

88 posted on 06/12/2006 4:52:42 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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