Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
No
You just restored my faith in what this website is about.
Thank you.
Some wounds are self-inflicted.
The Jeff Sessions/Heritage Foundation numbers bear that out.
But the President's nationally televised admission that we don't have the border under control ... and his pledging to fix that ... is a HUGE victory.
Troops on the border (as limited as the plan may be) are what conservatives have wanted for many months. It's a start.
The President even spoke of the troops building fences and barriers. It's a start.
And so far the Republican House is standing firm against amnesty.
This is not the time to throw up our hands in despair ... we may yet win this battle.
Good NAV-Check.
Your example, then, proves your point: Persons here who post criticisms of the president or his policies are irrational?
And, presumably, all of the president's actions and policies are wise, rational, and to be applauded?
At least your remark did not seem particularly venemous. But I think it is silly and unhelpful to offer such a broad dismissal of those who criticize the president.
Regardless of who "Joe" is not voting for, it is a slap in the face of every veteran from the Revolutionary Army to present who has fought and sometimes died for Americans' right to vote. I find even just the threat of not voting disgusting. Some American "Joe" is.
Are you kidding? LOL.
Right now, as they chew (or smoke) their 'parsley' they are working on their styles to appear more human and less 'cylon' in their trolling. The fight never ends.
Count me with you. Thanks for your continued efforts.
I liked your post. But you need to know that as a Bush defender, I do not demand praise only. I just find the more rabid attacks to be unpalatable and not what I joined FR for.
If they are out of line, they can be identified.
Any one who disagrees with the President's or Senate's position whether it be Miers, amnesty, or whatever, is a jerk, a Troll, a DU member or a bottom feeder, etc...And encouragement from Pukin Dog just widens the gap...
I've been working hard to oppose the "I'll vote Hillary in and teach the RINOs a lesson" trolls.
However, I went toe-to-toe with many and actually got beat up pretty bad on this point.
For the incumbent RINOs----THERE IS NO PRIMARY!
So, the GOP Party apparatus is set up to encourage RINO-ness in close elections.
For better or for worse, the GOP is not providing a steam-valve to let these trolls vent any meaningful way in an election. (Not that the DNC is either, but the two party system is broken when it comes to prizing incumbency uber alles.)
"PD's rant was good but you have made some valid points here too."
Pukin Dog was dead right about just about everything.
He was DEAD RIGHT that honor and decorum have to be preserved...or restored.
He was DEAD RIGHT that scurrilous personal attacks on the President, or the First Lady (especially! She's not even elected! Why pick on her?), or each other, are bad behavior and need to stop.
He was DEAD RIGHT that targeting certain Republican politicians who are notoriously bad on everything, like Lincoln Chaffee is a good policy.
My hope is that angry Border Conservatives, when they retaliate against the Republican Party, which they will, and indeed - given human psychology and self-respect, MUST - do so intelligently. I hope that the good solid Border Conservatives in the House get good solid turnouts and keep their seats, and that anybody running on a sealed border wins in November. I hope that the BorderBots are discerning enough to see how their Senators voted on the enforcement-first option yesterday, and that those stalwart Border Conservative Senators aren't punished by a GENERAL meltdown of BorderBot Republican defections.
Of course, there were also relatively conservative DEMOCRAT Senators who voted for enforcement first yesterday too. To the extent that Border Conservatives are going to vote their issue, I hope they are consistent in doing so, and don't just vote against Republicans or stay home in a general rage.
My overall point was that the BorderBots ARE going to stay away this year in droves. It can't be helped. It's like 1992 and Bush 41's welching on his "Read my lips - no new taxes pledge." That was unrecoverable by HIM, certainly, or the Republican politicians who supported him. BUT the ashes of disaster taught the lesson, and the phoenix rose again in the form of the Contract With America and takeover of the whole Congress two years later.
The Republican Party has shown it CAN learn.
Unfortunately, sometimes that education seems to have to be delivered by a two-by-four to the forehead.
Realistically, 2006 is going to be one of those years, because of the Border issue. Yelling at BorderBots that they HAVE to vote Republican or they're traitors, skunks, cowards, all three, or worse, isn't going to convince them of anything. It'll just entrench them in their pride.
They have to get their political revenge on the Republicans in November.
I am hoping that their anger can be shaped and directed such that it hits those Republicans who voted against what they want, but doesn't take out the ones who have supported their cause. If they do just that, the Democrats will still win the election, but the Congress will still be close come 2007, so the new Contract With America II, which will include the Sealed Southern Border clause, will not be trying to dig the Republican Party out of a hopeless deficit.
Pukin' Dog is right in what he wrote.
But BorderBots are not going to cast a caucus vote this year anyway.
Not going to the polls is the same as voting democrat.
EXACTLY !
back to reading your rant
You're right, we can.
You are giving it up to the Dems? Surprise surprise. Should I say Bye Bye now or later?
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