Skip to comments.N.Y. Poll: Hillary May Not Carry State in 2008
Posted on 05/17/2006 6:51:20 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton could have trouble carrying her own state if she runs for president in 2008 and Republicans nominate either former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani or Sen. John McCain of Arizona, a poll of New York voters reported Tuesday.
Lee Miringoff of Marist College's Institute for Public Opinion said the statewide poll, conducted in conjunction with New York City's WNBC-TV, is bad news for the former first lady given concerns nationally among some Democrats about her "electability."
In a theoretical matchup for the 2008 presidential race, the WNBC/Marist poll found Giuliani favored by 50 of New York voters to 46 percent for Clinton. The poll had Clinton at 48 percent and McCain at 45 percent.
"The question often centers around, can she be elected, can she carry a red state?" said the Marist pollster. "These numbers suggest that even right here in her own backyard the bluest of the blue Rudy Giuliani and Senator John McCain would give her a run for her money."
In New York, there are 5 million Democrats and 3 million Republicans, and the state has not been carried by a Republican presidential contender since Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984.
Clinton did better 58 percent to 36 percent against Gov. George Pataki, who like Giuliani is eyeing the 2008 GOP presidential nomination.
Marist's telephone poll of 735 registered voters was conducted May 1-7 and has a sampling error margin of plus or minus 4 percentage points.
Polls have shown Clinton well ahead of her potential Republican opposition in her bid this year for a second Senate term and national surveys have her as the front-runner for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination.
In the WNBC/Marist poll, 49 percent of New Yorkers said Clinton should run for president in 2008, but 66 percent said it was unlikely she could be elected. Fifty-one percent said Giuliani should run, but 52 percent said it was unlikely he could be elected president. Seventy-four percent of New Yorkers polled said Pataki should not run for president.
Does that mean the GOP should nominate a CONSERVATIVE????
It always hurts me to se Hillary called a former First Lady. She has no idea what entails being a lady.
Most of New York State is conservative. The problem is that most of the population is clustered in the NYC/Long Island area which is possibly the most liberal part of the country outside of San Francisco.
No Senator who has not been a relected governor is going to be President in '08.
1. How did NY buy into Hitlary being a New Yorker in the first place.
2. Not sure about Guliani but McCain will get his clock cleaned by almost anybody outside of Arizona. If he did win the nod the press would turn on him like a pit bull.
3. Now that I think of it all the other names mentioned are losers as well.
I agree, a real conservative (Newt, or that Gilchrist guy) would be worth more than McCain.
In 2008, Hillary will be the only Republican candidate in the race......measured by spine and scrotum!!
Uh-oh. She may want to get her fiends at ANSWER to organize another one of those Undocumented Voter Registration rallies in Nuevo El Yorko.
That said, polls regarding 08 are worth less than used toilet paper.
Any woman who went with Bill of her own accord was no lady.
Why anyone makes Hillary sound like a formidable general election candidate is a mystery to me. I think she's totally unelectable myself.
So what?Giuliani is very unlikely to be the nominee in 2008.
Anyone who thinks that Hillary would not carry this sorry state with 55-60% of the vote is kidding themselves.
Against Rudy certainly, and against McCain, until the Dems shread him, or he self shreads, or both.
I am hoping (delusional, I know!) that she will be defeated in NY when she next runs for Senate!
A upstate joined by just some of the downstaters? Maybe? To pull it off the Republicans would have to run the most RINO candidate they could find!
Actually, I think the Beast could carry NY state. You need strong, thick legs to carry heavy objects...and she appears to have those.
There are things going on beyond our knowledge. Formidable? Apparently. She got to be Senator through deceit and deception, it worked. Elected by those she loves walking on. Amazing. The brain-dead American voter, who elected Clinton TWICE. Simply amazing.
A corrupt, pro-gay, anti-gun multiculturalist like Giussolini will NOT get the nomination.
Giuliani would run roughshod over "the Hill" in NY.
"Anyone who thinks that Hillary would not carry this sorry state with 55-60% of the vote is kidding themselves"
I live in NYC.
I think its you that's kidding yourself.
Ruddy already won elections to be mayor of New York City TWICE, despite RATS outnumbering Republicans 5 to 1.
And that was BEFORE 9/11.
Add in the conservative upstate New York state, and its going to be veryu hard for anyone to beat Rubby in a statewide election in this state, including a prsidemntial election.
Why the hell doesn't he run against her for the Senate?
It's the way you refer to her as Hitlery!
You make my point.
Screw abortion......more liberals are murdering their own babies anyway.....murder away!!
Hitlery is mean and focused.
She goes for the jugular.
She has a backbone....
She may be evil but she is strong and getting stronger.
She does what she needs to do to win.
She will lie, cheat, steal and maybe even kill to attain her ultimate goal!
Decency is not in her vocabulary.
We need a Republican version of her.
The limp-wristed stumble-mouth we have in the White House now is no Republican.
He is Mexican...through and through!!
We always complain that the liberal Democrats give orders to the media and sometimes take orders too.
Well at least they don't take their marching orders from Vincente Fox.
And what kind of Mexican name is Fox, anyway?
I like Michael J. Fox.
Clearly he will not with your vote. I will write that down. :)
Because he would prefer to run for president.
I am not sure who would win in that match up,it is scary how many upstate votes she got last time.
My point was that it doesn`t matter as Rudy is not even giving hints of running much less getting any support from primary voters around the country.
Beyond him in state polls everyone loses here.
He's never going to be President. With his views on killing babies and gay 'rights', I've got more chance of winning the nomination!
If Rudy is serious about making a strong contribution, removing Hitlery from the Senate is surely it.
Some anti-illegal conservatives, outside of NYC, think Rudy's law & order image means he will be a Tom Tancredo Fan Club member.
Some evangelicals think Rudy's courageous act of telling the Saudi Prince to "F" off and refusing the $10 million for 9-11 cleanup means he will protect the churches from Islamo-Fascists.
With Bush's lack of leadership on Katrina, Iraq, Dubia Ports, and Immigration Reform, GOP voters are hungry for effective leadership. Rudy is planning to use 9-11 on portray himself as the 2nd coming of Reagan.
Trust me, Ruina the OVERRATED will not get the nomination.
I can see it now, Bernard Kerick as Secretary of State, Ray Harding as Commerce Secretary, and the first male-male wedding of Mark Finkelstein and Antonio Pagan on the White House lawn!
Ruina the Overrated milks the media myth of 9/11 to death. You should have seen how his arrogant closet-case communications director JP Avalon put down Christian Conservatives at the New York Young Republican meeting last week!
Bill will do that himself.
I always fear the hildabeast. Clintons cheat.
Rudy is on record as being pro-illegal and pro-multiculturalist. Romney, McCain, or Allen can easily drag such things out for those who had the wool pulled over their eyes by the media regarding Rudy Rockefeller after 9/11.
Well the latter will provide an entertaining diversion from the depressing matters of state.
BTW: Have you seen the renovated Oriental Institute at U of C? I was there two weeks ago, and came away impressed.
I'm ready for Rudy!
He's the guy who in 1995 threw out Yassir Arafat and his entourage from Lincoln Center..
It's deeds I'm looking for.
It's leadership that this nation has been sorely lacking for nearly 20 years.
The last three presidents have been accidents.......
When the entire barrel of apples is rotten, the one you choose surely smells too!
I have not been to Chicagoland in some time, but I will visit next time I am.
Agree fully with your post #28.
I think she's totally unelectable myself.
I agree. Whatever she and her party may envision, she and her so-called husband both look o-l-d, tired and very worn. ANY young vigorous candidate who can string together some words and who will lock down the border would clean her/their clocks.
I LOVE Giuliani. Seriously, I love the man. I'm pro-life, Guiliani understands that activist judges have no place in a democracy.
If McCain gets the nomination, I WILL vote third party.
LOL. Humor is the only way I can deal with the absolute terror I feel in my bones at the thought that she could even make a run at the White House.
If Sick Willie's prospective role becomes an object of ridicule, we won't have to lift a finger to stop Her Heinous.
Then again, Her Heinous may arrange for Billy to have a convenient heart attack and croak, leaving her as the first 'grieving' widow to run for the presidency.
BTW: The Tiki Room is gone, replaced by a new Checkerboard Lounge.
Where was the Tiki Room? I don't remember that one.
If only this story were believable...
Jimmy's Woodlawn Tap is still there, although Jimmy Wilson himself passed on about six years ago.
If the DemocRATS don't win New York, I doubt they could win the election.