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Creationist lecturer posits Adam, Eve and dinosaurs (Kent Hovind alert)
Morgan County Citizen ^ | May 16, 2006 | BROOKE HATFIELD

Posted on 05/18/2006 11:15:07 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger

One of the nation’s most popular and controversial proponents of creation science is coming to Morgan County.

Dr. Kent Hovind, a former high school science teacher and the founder of Creation Science Evangelism ministries, will address creationism’s religious and scientific origins. Hovind’s seminar is sponsored by the Morgan County Baptist Association, and Shiloh Baptist Church Youth Pastor Paul Miller said evolution’s origins are based on Satan, not science.

"The very beginning of the Bible says in the beginning God created," said Paul Miller, youth pastor at Shiloh Baptist Church. "Throughout history, the devil has had a well-thought-out strategy to attack the word of God. Through what I call modern and postmodern times, the devil has orchestrated this thing such that people think we evolved."

Hovind posits that evolution has been consistently disproven by science, a claim he’s willing to put money on. He has pledged $250,000 to anyone who can provide empirical evidence of evolution. Hovind said only three people have taken him up on his offer, and none walked away with the money.

Hovind’s description of evolution is as follows: time, space and matter came into existence independent of God. Planets and stars formed. Early life forms reproduced, and major changes occurred between these life forms. According to Hovind, many of evolution’s supporters don’t understand the theory.

"They think any kind of change at all is evolution," Hovind said. "They’ll point out that dogs and wolves have a common ancestor, and I would agree. That’s called microevolution, and there is no argument about that. Now does that mean that dogs and bananas have a common ancestor?"

Hovind, who calls himself Dr. Dino, also believes that Earth is only 6,000 years old and that dinosaurs and humans once coexisted.

Hovind said reptiles known as dinosaurs were actually called dragons by early man, and most of these creatures were hunted and killed. Some, like the Loch Ness Monster, remain, he said.

Bringing Hovind to Morgan County was a matter of faith for Miller.

"God just laid it on my heart to expose the lies of evolution," Miller said. "We both sense apathy among God’s people regarding God’s word, especially creation. We need to stand on the word of God."

Although Hovind’s seminar will touch on evolution’s alleged scientific failings, Miller said he ultimately hoped the lectures would touch attendees’ minds and hearts.

"The goal would be that through the discovery of God’s creation, folks would come to know the Lord Jesus Christ," Miller said. "We don’t want to hide the fact that that’s our goal."

Hovind’s seminars will be held Friday, May 12 and Saturday, May 13 at 6:30 p.m. in the Morgan County High School auditorium. Admission is free. He will also speak during Shiloh Baptist Church’s 8 a.m. and 11 a.m. services on Sunday. He will also answer questions in the church’s sanctuary at 9:45 a.m.

For more information on Hovind and Creation Science Evangelism ministries, go to www.drdino.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: add; creationist; crevolist; fauxcreationist; kenthovind; pavlovian
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To: Virginia-American

You can, if you like. Did they unearth the fossils back then? Is there any documentation to that effect?

As for a half-exposed skeleton...sure looked like a complete drawing to me.


81 posted on 05/18/2006 3:57:32 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger ("You're not going crazy! You're going sane in a crazy world!" - The Tick)
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To: Coyoteman

Also, if the goal is to say what young-earthers believe, then what you feel about how right or wrong they are shouldn't matter.


82 posted on 05/18/2006 3:59:01 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger ("You're not going crazy! You're going sane in a crazy world!" - The Tick)
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To: .cnI redruM
What an idiot! This guy is buying the left's propaganda that you have to reject evolution to believe in God.

You don't have to believe in God to understand that macro-evolution is a lie.

83 posted on 05/18/2006 3:59:42 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Paradox
It is a shame that the IDers have made this an Atheist vs Believers kind of thing, I think that was very dishonest of them.

Actually, it is the evolutionists who claim that ID is a religious argument. The IDers simply maintain that irrespective of ones religious view, evolution is not a scientifically supportable argument.

84 posted on 05/18/2006 4:02:39 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: DaveLoneRanger
You're dismissing their views simply because you do not agree with the idea of a worldwide flood?

When you have to contort accepted science, across dozens of separate fields, when you have to twist and manufacture evidence of a global flood--when there is no such evidence--in order to conform science to religious beliefs, yes, I'll dismiss their views.

Many of these outfits are so untrustworthy when it comes to accurately portraying science that I would seek to verify their claim that the sun rises in the east.

85 posted on 05/18/2006 4:03:38 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death--Heinlein)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; Coyoteman
You're dismissing their views simply because you do not agree with the idea of a worldwide flood?

It's not "do not agree with the idea of", it's "have a huge amount of data disproving"

In science there really are right and wrong answers. Have you ever studied the history of geology? Do you know why those pre-Darwin geologists, all of them "creationists", had rejected the flood hypothesis by the early 1800s?

Can you account for the sedimentary layering and the sequence of fossils in any way other than a very old Earth? In detail?

Can you account for the fact that oil companies use standard, not flood, geology?

86 posted on 05/18/2006 4:14:53 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: connectthedots

One advantage of believing in the possibility of soft rather than hard determinism is that God doesn't always have to dictate to you in order to be the greatest of all. Give that some thought and perhaps you'll see why I can easily buy both evolution and the first few books of the bible.


87 posted on 05/18/2006 4:55:09 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (Black holes are where God divided by zero. - Steven Wright)
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To: bondserv

And in response to that I would say that the bible often speaks allegorically, it makes teaching points by doing this. Thus, you don't have to believe Jonah got munched by a big fish to derive salvation from the word.


88 posted on 05/18/2006 4:57:06 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (Black holes are where God divided by zero. - Steven Wright)
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To: .cnI redruM
I don't really take a stand on a young v. old Earth argument; and I don't, for a variety of reasons, am not convinced that Genesis requires a young Earth. I am very convinced that macro-evolution is untenable even if one were to assume an old Earth.

I would like to know how the evolutionist can account for the existence of the soul of man. No other creature has a soul, or an ingrained sense of right and wrong.
89 posted on 05/18/2006 5:03:59 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: js1138

90 posted on 05/18/2006 5:06:04 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
"Hovind, who calls himself Dr. Dino, also believes that Earth is only 6,000 years old and that dinosaurs and humans once coexisted."

That humans and dinosaurs existed together has good evidence, however, nowhere in the Bible does it state that the Earth is only 6000 years old or anything like it.

In fact, the Bible contains pretty strong evidence that a creation containing man existed and was annihilated before Adam was ever created.

I wish these young Earth creationists would read their Bibles instead of making such questionable assertions as a young (6000 year-old) Earth.

91 posted on 05/18/2006 5:17:17 PM PDT by nightdriver
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92 posted on 05/18/2006 6:06:23 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: .cnI redruM
And in response to that I would say that the bible often speaks allegorically, it makes teaching points by doing this. Thus, you don't have to believe Jonah got munched by a big fish to derive salvation from the word.

This is why I posted such an array of scripture to circumvent the much used expression, "that's your interpretation".

Explaining away such an abundance of scriptural support for the need to take the Genesis creation account straigntforwardly, forces a person to decide for themselves what their real source of truth is.

As history has repeatedly demonstrated when someone - including the church regarding Galileo - departs from the Word of God and chooses to replace their beliefs with the ideas of men, they end up being wrong.

93 posted on 05/18/2006 6:19:41 PM PDT by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. )
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To: Junior

Good job


94 posted on 05/18/2006 6:22:13 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: js1138

Gracias.


95 posted on 05/18/2006 6:27:43 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: bondserv
As history has repeatedly demonstrated when someone - including the church regarding Galileo - departs from the Word of God and chooses to replace their beliefs with the ideas of men, they end up being wrong.

As you have done with evolution.

96 posted on 05/18/2006 6:31:31 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Check this out FOSSIL HUNTERS OF ANCIENT ROME By Adrienne Mayor

As for a half-exposed skeleton...sure looked like a complete drawing to me.

I don't know what you'd do, but if I saw half a skeleton exposed, I'd dig the rest of it out.

BTW, that picture shows an unknown dinosaur: head of a triceratops, back like a stegosaur. Forgery, anyone?

97 posted on 05/18/2006 6:35:35 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: connectthedots
You don't have to believe in God to understand that macro-evolution is a lie.

Any examples of this phenomenon?

98 posted on 05/18/2006 6:41:08 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: Virginia-American
BTW, that picture shows an unknown dinosaur: head of a triceratops, back like a stegosaur. Forgery, anyone?

As I said, you can buy pre-Columbian ceramics by the pound.

99 posted on 05/18/2006 6:52:43 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: js1138
As you have done with evolution.

Darwinian Evolution is in direct contradiction to the Word of God. God is powerful enough to enable Lions to get their nutrition by eating straw.

Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

Speaking of Christ in the desert showing His command over the the curse of vicious survival on wild animals:

Mar 1:13 And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.

Rom 8:21-22
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

If you choose to believe reality excludes that possibility, don't expect to swallow concepts regarding heavenly things.

Jhn 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things?

It's better to not underestimate God's power.

100 posted on 05/18/2006 6:58:49 PM PDT by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. )
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