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Iowa Co. Hopes to Make Gasoline Obsolete
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/19/06 | David Pitt - ap

Posted on 05/19/2006 10:01:17 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: kinoxi
"hydrogen is the panacea of the left"

And CA's idiot celebrity Republican RINO Governor!!!

21 posted on 05/19/2006 10:49:21 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Without consistent core conservatives in charge, the GOP is fast becoming the Gelded Old Party!!!)
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To: Zeppelin

Now let's hope we don't get $20 a barrel oilor lower that will
effectively kill it.


22 posted on 05/19/2006 10:51:10 PM PDT by hootiebird
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To: kinoxi
hydrogen is the panacea of the left

Yep. Don't you have to burn a lot of coal or natural gas to generate the electricity to make the hydrogen? Of course nuclear power would fix that part of the equation.

23 posted on 05/19/2006 10:52:17 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: SierraWasp

Didja see Billy Saul Estes???


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LOL..
No, can't say I did.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKestes.htm

For those not familiar with the name.


24 posted on 05/19/2006 10:56:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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To: CrazyIvan

The Ford 300 inline 6. One hell of a reliable workhorse. My dad bought F-150's for our company for years with this engine in them and they ran like clocks. Got an average of 250,000 miles out of them and that was in the 80's. Since we run everything until the wheels fall off, We have one of them that lasted about 370,000 miles.


25 posted on 05/19/2006 10:57:14 PM PDT by lmr (You can have my Tactical Nuclear Weapons when you pry them from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: SierraWasp
Great Post, Great Observation and I wish I would have posted it. Now that you have, you know that those over at DU will take the 180 position for no other reason other than you said it first.

The Contrarian Situation that exists now is even more insidious than the PC movement. Today Common Sense and Genuine Debate is as scarce as Leadership and Vision.

I miss Ronald Reagan

TT

PS

Never ever count me in the PC Crowd... I can get Crazy without the baggage!
26 posted on 05/19/2006 10:58:47 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

the worst part is that even if this 'fantasy world' of combustible hydrogen power was feasable, it couldn't work. the left is promoting this as a way to slow down global warming. the most potent 'green house' gas known to man is water vapor. what comes out of the pipes of these "eco-friendly" cars? if every internal combustion engine was coverted to hydrogen tomorrow we would all be dead in a matter of years.


27 posted on 05/19/2006 10:59:35 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: TexasTransplant
"I had hope with Ceramics and Aluminum Ceramics and for some reason those ideas went away in the 80's (with the Chevy Vega)"

Vega didn't use ceramics in its engines. It had an aluminum block and head, and the car was famously troublesome.

But now, thirty-three years later, aluminum engines are commonplace.

The world has yet to see a ceramic automotive engine in production, however.
28 posted on 05/19/2006 11:02:00 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: SierraWasp

>>>>"Please forgive me!!!"<<<

Nope

Not until everyone else forgives me...

TT


29 posted on 05/19/2006 11:03:08 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: NormsRevenge

If they can get us off foreign energy sources, then more power to them.


30 posted on 05/19/2006 11:04:12 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Thought the Cosworth Vega had Ceramic Cylinder walls?

(I may just read too much Popular Mechanics and sleep in between articles)

My bad

TT
31 posted on 05/19/2006 11:06:29 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: NormsRevenge

Cool stuff.


32 posted on 05/19/2006 11:10:45 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: kinoxi

"when it runs out just pi$$ in it for a few miles:)"

If they can get one to run on ammonia, then maybe you could.


33 posted on 05/19/2006 11:13:49 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: PLMerite
was a joke referring to post 8.
34 posted on 05/19/2006 11:17:05 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Zeppelin
The guys that will win are the gasoline producers.

There's too much oil for prices to keep going up, the deamnd/supply curves are crossing.

However, long term, I believe electric cars will sominate. The can be recharged with nuclear generated electricily...the ultimate "green car" that doesn't make the country dependent on anyone.

35 posted on 05/19/2006 11:31:02 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner
oil is plentiful and nukes are the only logical choice for future mass development. 'sominate' however sounds like a next gen sleep aid :)
36 posted on 05/19/2006 11:37:14 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi
must be late:)

I suppose you know I meant "dominate" ?

37 posted on 05/19/2006 11:51:43 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

yeah, it must be late. couldn't help it ;)


38 posted on 05/19/2006 11:56:06 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

Understood. But somewhere in there they said something about trying to get it to run on ammonia. :)


39 posted on 05/20/2006 12:00:14 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: SierraWasp
So, is there no hope for an engine that is dependant on anything but oil? [beg pardon, but I am not mechanic savvy...its a female thing]...

Someone once told me a parable about how when things seem to be stuck in a mire [metaphorically], one must take things to the next level. Are you saying there is absolutely no hope of finding a viable alternative? [which I would say, totally stinks]. ...Truly, no alternative so just accept it?

40 posted on 05/20/2006 12:05:19 AM PDT by softengine ("As I've matured, I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. ")
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