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Spain celebrates Columbus, descendents defend his legacy
Yahoo - AFP ^ | 5/20/06

Posted on 05/20/2006 7:43:29 AM PDT by Borges

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1 posted on 05/20/2006 7:43:30 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Well, Leif "the Lucky" Erikson has the prior discovery claim.


2 posted on 05/20/2006 7:50:04 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: Borges

What's to "defend".

The man was a hero of western civilization.


3 posted on 05/20/2006 7:52:12 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Borges
Ironic that a Portuguese posted an article about Columbus.
4 posted on 05/20/2006 7:55:32 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Borges

but this would put left-wing extremist, cultural anthropologists out of a job... lmao


5 posted on 05/20/2006 7:57:24 AM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: Borges

The grave of Columbus

The Ship of Columbus rebuilded - "Santa Maria"

A box with the remains of Columbus

A zinc-box with the bones of Christophers brother Diego

The probable birthplace of Columbus in Genua.

6 posted on 05/20/2006 8:10:41 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (De omnibus dubitandum.)
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"For nine days I was as one lost, without any hope of life. eyes never
beheld the sea so high, angery,and covered with foam. The wind not
only prevented our progress, but offered no opportunity to run
behind any headland for shelter; hence we were forced to keep out in
this bloody ocean, seething like a pot on a hot fire. Never did the sky
look moe terrible;for one whole day and night it blazed like a furnance,
and the lightening broke forth with such violence that each time
I wondered if it had carried off my spars and sails; the flashes came
with such fury and frightfulness that we all thought that the ships
would be blasted. All this time the water never ceased to fall from the sky;
I do not say it rained, for it was like another deluge. The men
were so worn out they longed for death to end their dreadful
suffering."

--- Christopher Columbus' journal, December 5, 1502.


7 posted on 05/20/2006 8:45:20 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Borges; AlaninSA; Coleus
KofC ping!


8 posted on 05/20/2006 8:46:38 AM PDT by Theoden (Fidei Defensor)
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To: Borges

Columbus is from a time when Spain had B@LLS!


9 posted on 05/20/2006 8:46:46 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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Well, Leif "the Lucky" Erikson has the prior discovery claim.

Didn't kill enough Skraelings* to make it into the history books for a long time.

* The Vikings of olde called the natives that the found in Newfoundland "Skraelings."

10 posted on 05/20/2006 8:55:39 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: GSlob
Well, Leif "the Lucky" Erikson has the prior discovery claim.

And of course, the recent archaeological evidence shows that white europeans where in north america over 20,000 years ago. Even longer than the illegal aliens ancestors..therefore we white folk are the real native americans.

12 posted on 05/20/2006 9:24:40 AM PDT by Mogollon
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"Didn't kill enough Skraelings* to make it into the history books for a long time."
Well, he didn't have either gunpowder or plate armor, not even distilled spirits. And my edition spells it "skrellings".
13 posted on 05/20/2006 9:38:20 AM PDT by GSlob
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Please FReepmail me if you'd like to be added to or removed from the KofC ping list.

14 posted on 05/20/2006 11:28:19 AM PDT by AlaninSA ("Beware the fury of a patient man." - John Dryden)
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To: GSlob
Leif forgot to tell anybody about it however. That puts him in roughly the same category as the wandering North African tribe who discovered America 35,000 years ago.

Best bet is to admit that Columbus gets credit for discovering America for the Europeans, Asians and Africans, and for discovering Europe, Asia and Africa for the Americans.

Makes him the discoverer of 4 continents and I don't think you can beat that.

15 posted on 05/20/2006 1:15:53 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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If Leif forgot to tell anybody about it, then how come we know his name in this connection? The records of his doings were left, and even disseminated, but not too widely. His literary agent was none too good, that's all.


16 posted on 05/20/2006 1:28:46 PM PDT by GSlob
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The reason we know about it is somebody bothered to check with the ancient sagas, and lo, and behold, there they were. However, that sort of thing was not only NOT widely distributed, it wasn't distributed at all.

Same with Gregoire Mendel ~ he didn't publish!

Another guy came up with what amounts to the Quark Theory back in the 1700s. However, it didn't explain chemistry, and it took another 200 years for someone else to come up with the same theory. By that time we knew what it meant (if not all the details).

We don't count Leif any more than we count those ancient North Africans.

17 posted on 05/20/2006 1:31:36 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: vetvetdoug
Borges was actually Argentinean!
18 posted on 05/20/2006 2:43:49 PM PDT by Borges
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To: GSlob

What he did have was a highly developed society behind him.


19 posted on 05/20/2006 2:48:08 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Borges
The name is also that of my nephew who's father was Portuguese.
20 posted on 05/20/2006 2:48:47 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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