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Was the American Bombing Campaign in World War II a War Crime?
American Heritage Magazine ^ | April 6, 2006 | Fredric Smoler

Posted on 05/20/2006 8:33:39 PM PDT by tbird5

Deliberately targeting civilians is widely considered terrorism nowadays, but during World War II both the Britain’s Bomber Command and the United States Army Air Force deliberately targeted civilians.

The British philosopher A. C. Grayling, in his new book Among the Dead Cities: The History and Moral Legacy of the WWII Bombing of Civilians in Germany and Japan (Walker, $25.95), points out that the two air forces combined killed perhaps 600,000 German civilians and another 200,000 Japanese. He makes the case that at least by our current standards we were terrorists, and it logically follows that the attacks were war crimes. In an age of political terror, when it is urgent to come up with a persuasive distinction between legitimate and illegitimate violence, it is hard to overstate the importance of the questions Grayling raises.

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To: Alberta's Child

I'll repeat what I just said, only this time read it slowly so you can understand what I'm saying.

They were fanatical in that they thought of their emperor as a god. The emperor was not willing to surrender when Japan was clearly beaten, therefore the people were not willing to surrendur either. When we showed the emperor that we could literally destroy the entire country, by dropping the bombs, he finally realized that surrender was his only option. He finally surrendered, and the people, following the instructions of their "god", stopped fighting. They most certainly were not docile. They were, however, fanatical in following the wishes of the emperor.

Hope that explains it.


101 posted on 05/20/2006 9:36:12 PM PDT by frankiep (Visualize Whirled Peas)
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To: Alberta's Child

you need to go research Japan's biological weapon it developed --- and used --- on China.

Japan was months away from bombing San Fransico with cholera and plauge (clay bomblets with infected fleas) when we nuked them.

Bred the diseases to be antibiotic resistent, in fact.

Parts of China are still uninhabitable.

Things were very close to total disaster. We don't like to think that, though.


102 posted on 05/20/2006 9:36:21 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Alberta's Child
"...the lengths to which the U.S. and Britain went to protect key industrial targets in many of these German cities."

Okaaaaayyyy....I guess we are going to hear about the Triads next...yup, we did our darndest not to hurt German industry.

103 posted on 05/20/2006 9:37:07 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: tbird5
As I recall, there were several schools of thought on bombing which developed during the interwar years. One was bomb civilians to break the will of the enemy. It was Great Britain's Trenchard who advocated this. The other was to bomb the industry to break the will of the enemy, which was Billy Mitchell's philosophy.

This played out in Europe, where the RAF did night area bombing, and the USAAF primarily bombed industry in daylight raids.

Obviously, LeMay's approach in the Pacific was more in line with Trenchard's theories.

The key to analyzing all of this is the the concept of proportionality, which dictates that the loss of life and property incidental to a military attack must not be excessive in relation to the military advantages expected to be gained.

I would say the RAF's area bombing had little military value. LeMay's firebombing was the most effective way to target Japanese targets given the wooden construction of their buildings, but the collateral damage was very high in proportion. Plus LeMay's intentions were more in line with Trenchard.

The A-Bombs clearly gained a huge military advantage compared to the loss of life. Plus, the fact Japan failed to surrender after Hiroshima suggests their resistance was very high.

We cannot compare wars of the past with the capabilities of today. If it took 1,000 B-17s and 10,000 dead civilians to destroy an enemy target in 1944, that is the standard. Not the fact that today a single airplane can take out the same target and only risk those civilians who are actually within the confines of the target.

We also cannot compare reality (the Japanese did surrender and end the war as a result of the A-Bomb) with theory (if only we had really asked nicely they would have given up).

And let's not forget some advocated bombing the concentration camps to put them out of commission, knowing it would result in a large number of civilian deaths.

Let me provide this analysis:

We were the good guys. They were the bad guys.

104 posted on 05/20/2006 9:37:43 PM PDT by magellan ( by)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Maybe I'm completely naive about this, but how the hell was Japan going to drop a bomb on San Francisco? Did they have some kind of super-duper-long-range bomber program that I'm not aware of?


105 posted on 05/20/2006 9:38:06 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child

because he went on the radio and ask them to.


106 posted on 05/20/2006 9:40:13 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: DB
Can there really be civilians in all out war? It is the "civilians" that manufacture the goods that empower the war machine to continue on.

That is the rationale for knocking down the World Trade Center Towers.

107 posted on 05/20/2006 9:41:44 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Alberta's Child
Japanese Balloon Bombs

Another Link

108 posted on 05/20/2006 9:42:03 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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To: frankiep

There is debate that if the Japanese knew that they could keep their monarch they would have surrendered.


109 posted on 05/20/2006 9:42:18 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu (www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: rlmorel

You should talk to someone who lived in places like Cologne, Hamburg, and Bremerhaven during World War II -- I think it would be a fascinating experience.


110 posted on 05/20/2006 9:42:23 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child
"...And who is "they?"

I presume you are being deliberately dense for rhetorical purposes.

111 posted on 05/20/2006 9:42:39 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: frankiep
So it was only a matter of convincing this emperor to give up, eh?

And dropping atomic bombs was the only way to do that?

112 posted on 05/20/2006 9:43:12 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child

Subs. Here:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-03/26/content_318301.htm


113 posted on 05/20/2006 9:43:41 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: rlmorel

I'm asking who "they" is in the context of this discussion because "they" apparently don't fit the same clear national identities that our enemies had in World War II.


114 posted on 05/20/2006 9:44:26 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child

Or we could have invaded the Japanese mainland and most likely have seen hundreds of thousands of American troops killed. Perhaps you would have liked that better.


115 posted on 05/20/2006 9:45:15 PM PDT by frankiep (Visualize Whirled Peas)
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To: tbird5

No. That's why we'll be justified when we ultimately have to bomb muslim cities. The precedent's been set. And not just in WWII.


116 posted on 05/20/2006 9:45:43 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: metmom
There was a History Channel (or Discovery Channel) show a couple years back that showed that the Japanese were not far from completing a nuclear device that they planned on using in the US on a date that turned out to be only weeks after when they got bombed themselves.

Not really. Some Japanese scientists knew what had hit them, and had suggested the idea earler in the war. But the Japanese military never took it seriously or undertook a project to build one. After Hiroshima there was some talk of putting together a project to build one, but there was no industrial capacity to do so. Consider the time and effort the USA put into the Manhattan Project. There was no possible way they could start at that point and do so. Additionally they had no unranium to process anyway, since their only source was Manchuria, and we had them blockaded.

Another myth is that Germany was seriously pursuing the bomb. There is a little more truth to that, but the Germans were experimenting with heavy water. In other words they were looking at fusion, not fission. Since you can't have a hydrogen bomb with an atomic bomb first, they were barking up the wrong tree. In any case they never got much in the way of resources because Hitler distrusted "damned Jewish physics".

117 posted on 05/20/2006 9:47:11 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Alberta's Child
This is a photo of a aircraft carrying submarine, similar to the one that was used to drop fires in Oregon's forests. Note the size of the sailors standing beside the conn tower!!!
118 posted on 05/20/2006 9:48:00 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Alberta's Child

Generally ditto to most of your comment that Japan was practically defeated as a threat to the United States and allies after many of their sources of raw materials was taken from them. Also, Japan started their expansion into Southeast Asia and their war against the United States AFTER the United States stopped giving them resources such as oil and iron ore (the United States was hardly neutral before the attack on Pearl Harbor).


119 posted on 05/20/2006 9:48:39 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu (www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

There is debate that if the Japanese knew that they could keep their monarch they would have surrendered.

And if Hitler and the Nazis were allowed to stay in power they might have surrendered earlier as well.

120 posted on 05/20/2006 9:48:46 PM PDT by frankiep (Visualize Whirled Peas)
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To: tbird5

Here is my opinion regarding rules in warfare...

Rules are enforced when there is some objective authority with sufficient retaliatory powers to coerce the parties into compliance. There is no such entity in any war that involves major powers. The pretend otherwise is stupid.

I lost two Soldiers in Iraq. If I could bring them back by slitting the throat of every man, woman, and child living in Iraq then I would do it. I would do it and then eat a hamburger and go to sleep and wake up refreshed 8 hours later.

Labeling civilians as non-combatants is stupid. They are not without sin. The German people elected Hitler and gave him the power to terrorize Europe. If their houses got burned and their children slaughtered in order to prevent more of our young men from getting killed as the US un-screwed what Germany screwed up, then so be it. That's war. Deal with it. If you don't like then don't elect sociopaths, psychos, or tyrants.

Same goes for Iraq and Afghanistan. There are over 20 million people in Iraq who let themselves be terrorized by Saddam Hussein (read "Saddam's Delusions" in the latest Foreign Affairs - even his right-hand men were terrorized). Don't expect me to shed a tear because we accidentally kill a couple of them in the process of hunting down terrorists that have attempted to fill the void created when we booted Hussein from power. They made the mess and refused to clean it up. Now people want to sharpshoot us for doing what Haji refused to do.

AC Grayling can F off and eat the next turd that lands in my toilet. I am so sick of subhuman parasites in academia who know nothing other than what their philosophy textbooks and dry reading of the Geneva conventions teach them. I would like to give this moron a rifle and drop him into the middle of some F-ed up city in Iraq and tell him walk to the nearest US Base 5 miles away - and don't shoot anyone unless they're wearing a military uniform. Then we'll see which lasts longer - his theories about the Law of Land Warfare or his basic survival instincts.


121 posted on 05/20/2006 9:49:17 PM PDT by Axhandle
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To: Alberta's Child

also the Imperial staff


122 posted on 05/20/2006 9:49:58 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: COEXERJ145

That's a bizarre story, and it's the first time I ever heard of it. How the heck can someone launch an unmanned balloon and have it deliver explosives thousands of miles across the Pacific Ocean with any degree of accuracy at all?


123 posted on 05/20/2006 9:50:02 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: tbird5

Hitler and Goebbels asked for "Total War" and they got it!!!


124 posted on 05/20/2006 9:50:22 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: Alberta's Child
I have never seen any objective analysis of World War II in which it was determined that "an all out invasion of the Japanese mainland would have been necessary."

That statement is a perfect example of why liberal teachers are going to destroy the future.

In 1945 the World didn't have to depend on history teachers to tell them what would happen if you allowed an aggressive nation to not surrender. The Japanese will was not broken and they continued to develop new weapons and they had massive oil reserves even after they surrendered. Try getting your history from books written by someone who was there, not from someone who thinks his service to this country was spitting on US Soldiers.

125 posted on 05/20/2006 9:50:45 PM PDT by txroadkill
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To: tbird5
You name one major combatant of WW2 that didn't kill civilian to some degree when operating in enemy territory...and a very strong case can be made that the US did thet most of any of then to avoid killing civilian....

The German and Japaneses are self evident ...just flat out deliberate slaughter... the Italians not as much but still in pre ww2 Ethiopia... the Russian well they were teams with both side went they went in to Poland with the Germans in 39 and in the battles it 44/45 in to Germans civilian were fair game... The Chinese were alway fighting on home soil...

However none of the above had any strategic bombing force... only the Brit and American did... of the two the Brits did night time area bombing of city's... it did take a toll on civilian.... However the American went with daylight "precision" bombing it took a higher toll on aircrew and less on civilian but the aim was to take out the factory more the the cities would be more effect in the long run...high altitude daylight "precision" bombing was alway in question during that war not because of civilian death but the opposite in that many felt it was to much effort and risk going it daylight to "precision" bombing the factory...just better to go at night and carpet bomb the lot

The American also started the strategic bombing campaign of Japan also as high altitude daylight "precision" bombing but that was one extra problem over Japan...very strong high altitude winds...(it was over Japan in 44/45 that the so call "Jet Stream" first became well known) be cause of this high altitude daylight "precision" bombing over Japan was proving to be a bust... so it was switch to the Brit style night time area bombing or just call it quits (and that wasn't going to happen)

But like I stated the American probably did the most of any of major combatant of WW2 to avoid killing civilian....not that it was driven by any major degree of concerns for civilian ... it was more that the American doctrine worked on the assumption that destroying the factory's was more efficient that just killing civilian

126 posted on 05/20/2006 9:51:09 PM PDT by tophat9000 (If it was illegal French Canadians would La Raza back them? Racist back there race over country)
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To: Alberta's Child

Well at least we can agree on that. Would "Islamofacist terrorists operating with and without the help of parent governments" be specific enough?


127 posted on 05/20/2006 9:51:35 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: zaggs
Some of it yes, but not all. The bombing of Dresden and the fire bombing of Tokyo and both nuclear detonations should have been war crimes. All targeted civilians rather then military targets. its one thing to aim for a military target, or what you think is a military target, then miss and kill civilians. Quite another thing to aim from the start to kill civilians.

War crimes are made-up crimes defined in order to put a legal sheen around the process of executing enemy personnel whose actions the winning power did not consider cricket. Me personally - I would have simply rounded up the offending enemy personnel and just executed them. That was Churchill's personal preference, but the legal eagles in Roosevelt's administration insisted otherwise.* You could call it winner's justice - but that's what the losers called the war crimes trials anyway. And everywhere that the losers won - earlier on in their military campaigns - they massacred millions of civilians and POW's who had passed into their control.

I think Steven Den Beste put it best - wartime conventions are a pact between two sides to adhere to certain niceties so that the eventual loser doesn't come off too badly when he is defeated. If one side breaks the rules, he loses the protection that the agreement conferred upon him - the other side doesn't have to abide by them either. Wartime rules are not stone tablets handed down by some deity - they exclude tactics that can be of benefit to the side that practices them, even as the other side shrinks from them. This is why when one side breaks the rules, the gloves are off.

People who believe that the Japanese could have been defeated without dropping the atomic bombs have left out one important question - at the cost of how many more American lives? The invasion of Okinawa left 20,000 Americans dead over the course of 2-1/2 months. (And the island is just a little smaller than New York City, land area wise - just under 500 square miles). In that 2-1/2 months, the Japanese were busy massacring tens of thousands of Allied POW's and Asian civilians they considered dangerous. Any American leader who advocated anything less than the use of these bombs over Japanese cities would have been guilty of a genuine war crime - the crime of sentencing hundreds of thousands of his own soldiers to unnecessary deaths.

* This is why we have "crimes" defined by the legal proceedings in the WWII kangaroo courts. And "crimes" that are being used to criminalize American servicemen.
128 posted on 05/20/2006 9:51:57 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Alberta's Child

Plus, a lot of Americans would fight if the United States were invaded. Probably the same for Canada.


129 posted on 05/20/2006 9:52:21 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu (www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
In the 1950's and 60's there was a 'better dead than red' vs 'better red than dead' debate regarding possible war with Russia. A few years on some PBS program Robert McNamara said - and I wish I could quote him exactly - that if the U.S. were attacked with a nuclear weapon we should not necessarily react in kind. Any kind of resistance is evil...it is good to let evil win. Basically that's where this guy is coming from. Even if bombing civilian targets hadn't been done he would still find some crazy rationale to criticize the good guys, back then and I'm sure now also. Whatever his education, the bottom line is that in his heart he has made a choice to support the dark side of the human race.
130 posted on 05/20/2006 9:52:25 PM PDT by Orantx ('Government is force...and like fire,.. a dangerous servant and fearsome master' George Washington)
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To: tbird5

And even if it was a "War Crime," consider the Marshall Plan, and the Berlin Airlift, payment in full, and then some.


131 posted on 05/20/2006 9:52:31 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: tbird5
Both the Nazis and their Jap Axis partners in genocide were very busy developing their own versions of the A-Bomb.

Foolish questioning regarding Allied bombing against Axis targets would not even be a question if the enemy had won the war.

"Those of you who may survive, bear witness, let the world know what has happened here."
- Aleksander Aronowich Pechersky
leader of the Sobibor revolt, seconds before the outbreak


132 posted on 05/20/2006 9:52:42 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Alberta's Child
Biological weapons don't need accuracy.

That said, the Japanese weren't stupid and they figured out how to use the jet stream to send their balloon bombs across the Pacific.

As a side note, the Japanese were closer in 1945 to producing an atomic bomb than Nazi Germany ever was. This says a lot for Japanese scientific abilities.

133 posted on 05/20/2006 9:53:15 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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To: txroadkill

Actually, I got much of my World War II history on the lap of an old relative who served in the South Pacific.


134 posted on 05/20/2006 9:54:06 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child
I'll ask you, too . . . Who is "they?"

Take your pick. This wasn't the first attack. If we were as mean as you allude, we would have waged all out war on Iran, Syria, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. It would be all over by now and we'd be paying 25 cents a gallon for gasoline.

Just stop with the nonsense...We all know who "they" are.
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135 posted on 05/20/2006 9:54:09 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Alberta's Child

From the late fall of 1944 through the early spring of 1945, the Japanese launched more than 9,000 of these "fusen bakudan", or fire balloons, of which 300 were found or observed in the US.

http://www.japan-101.com/history/fire_balloons_or_balloon_bombs.htm

Just because you never heard of it doesn't mean it didn't happen. And just because they weren't very accurate doesn't mean that they were a very real threat.

136 posted on 05/20/2006 9:54:40 PM PDT by frankiep (Visualize Whirled Peas)
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To: tbird5

Mass bombings are not over - does anyone except Senator Patty Murray believe that bin Laden wouldn't use a nuclear weapon
on the West if he got his hands on one?


137 posted on 05/20/2006 9:54:50 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Hey, march some more - its helping get the wall built!)
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To: dfwgator
"Hitler and Goebbels asked for "Total War" and they got it!!!

And the majority of Germans & collaborators supported their Fuhrer as long as he was winning the horrific war Germany began.

138 posted on 05/20/2006 9:56:14 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Alberta's Child
The Japanese figured out the wind streams. I don't recall the exact year, but I was living in Northern California some time in the mid 80's when a couple of Boy Scouts were killed when they came across a Japanese Fire Balloon.

The US Government kept that the bombs were making it to the West Coast a top secret so the Japanese would assume they failed and give up on them. All the fires they started were kept out of the press (by a press that understood that if you leak military secrets people die).

You should really study World War II history before commenting on it.

139 posted on 05/20/2006 9:58:36 PM PDT by txroadkill
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To: COEXERJ145
That said, the Japanese weren't stupid and they figured out how to use the jet stream to send their balloon bombs across the Pacific.

Hey, I could use the jet stream to send balloons across the Pacific Ocean, too. What I can't do, however (and I don't understand how anyone in 1945 could have done it), is: 1) ensure that it follows a precise track that takes it directly over the U.S., and 2) runs out of air over the U.S. (as opposed to landing in the Pacific Ocean, the Atlantic Ocean in Europe, or -- heaven forbid -- floats all the way around the world and lands in Japan).

140 posted on 05/20/2006 9:58:37 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child

Good gosh, you never heard of that?


141 posted on 05/20/2006 9:59:51 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: M. Espinola

If you read Shirer's "Berlin Diary," Germans almost had an indifference to the war, when it started.

That changed after the victory over France, and I do believe most did become convinced Hitler was a genius and became more fanatical.


142 posted on 05/20/2006 10:00:04 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: M. Espinola

And apparently some posters here think that fighting to make certain that the genocidal regimes that started the war were thrown on the ash heap of history was not necessary. It's unbelievable how many revisionists and sympathizers are here tonight.


143 posted on 05/20/2006 10:01:25 PM PDT by frankiep (Visualize Whirled Peas)
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To: Alberta's Child
They didn't need it to run out of air (hydrogen). They had calculated the amount of time the balloon would take to travel the distance from Japan to the continental United States. They installed a simple timing device would release the balloon's payload at the calculated time.

After the payload was released, the balloon had a self destruct system that would destroy the balloon to prevent the Americans from capturing one intact.

144 posted on 05/20/2006 10:02:29 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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To: frankiep
The question was raised here in the context of a Japanese plan to bomb San Francisco. My point was that a balloon traveling several thousand miles across an ocean is hardly the kind of method one would use to carry out such a mission. You could have a near-perfect understanding of meteorology and launch 1,000 balloons every day from Japan -- and you would probably spend 500 years launching balloons without ever getting one to land in San Francisco.
145 posted on 05/20/2006 10:03:38 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: bnelson44

People need face reality. Go to war, people die; both the ones that shoot and the ones that make. Don't play the game if your afraid to do what must be done.


146 posted on 05/20/2006 10:03:48 PM PDT by Dawggie
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To: tbird5
Politically Correct WARS are here to stay for the US but in those days there was ONLY ONE consideration......TOTAL VICTORY!!!

It is amazing to me that anything but KILL THE ENEMY and destroy his war making capacity, before the HE does it to you, is even considered!!

147 posted on 05/20/2006 10:04:45 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: Alberta's Child

It isnt that hard. If you have a rudimentary knowledge of wind patterns, velocities and distances, you set various balloons to destruct after a certain time frame. It is a pretty stupid way to make war, but that is what the Japanese had to work with at that point, as decimated as they were.


148 posted on 05/20/2006 10:04:51 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Alberta's Child
Maybe I'm completely naive about this, but how the hell was Japan going to drop a bomb on San Francisco? Did they have some kind of super-duper-long-range bomber program that I'm not aware of?

They had three seaplane carrying submarines. One was already in position off the coast of Panama. They were awaiting the delivery of the uranium. Their scheduled dirty bomb attack on San Francisco was two weeks away when we nuked them.

Hitler supplied the uranium to Japan after we bombed his "America Bomber" Factory. His plan was to drop his bomb on New York. We killed their civilians instead of them killing ours.

We should be sorry for that?
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149 posted on 05/20/2006 10:05:42 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: tbird5
 
 "..his attitude ("Bomber" Harris') towards the enemy, was clearly expressed the night of a German attack on London when, climbing on the roof of the Air Ministry building as bombs were exploding all around, he stated "They have sown the wind, and so they shall reap the whirlwind.""
 
 


150 posted on 05/20/2006 10:06:20 PM PDT by wolficatZ (Detective Chief Superintendent Christopher Foyle -"You'll hang for this!")
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