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HILLARY. New York state has embraced her. Will the rest of the country if she runs for president?
The Chicago Tribune ^ | May 21, 2006 | Lisa Anderson

Posted on 05/21/2006 8:31:39 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

ELMIRA, N.Y. -- As "New York, New York" so famously promises, if you can make it there you can make it anywhere. Hillary Rodham Clinton may soon put those lyrics to a presidential test.

With little question that she will win re-election to the Senate this fall, a larger question looms: If Clinton turned numbers of skeptical and sometimes openly hostile upstate New Yorkers significantly in her favor, could she pull off the same thing nationally in a 2008 run for the White House?

Seven years ago, when she began her Senate campaign, many residents of this hard-pressed Finger Lakes region considered Clinton the political equivalent of the Wicked Witch of the West. Older women, particularly, acidly criticized her as domineering, arrogant, ambitious and oblivious to blue-collar concerns--not to mention unable to rein in her philandering husband.

During her first term as the state's junior U.S. senator, Clinton hardly has morphed into Glinda, the Good Witch of the North. But the Democrat has shed much of her image as a broom-riding carpetbagger and gained more than a little respect and appreciation in some of the most conservative corners of the state.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: billygoatswife; clinton; craiglivingstone; hillary; hillary2008; hillaryclinton; lesbianqueen; pilesofbodies; rosiespal; vincefoster; whereschelsea
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To: noncommie
Why would anyone read anything that lame if they're not stranded on an island or something?

To confirm my suspicions of the MSM. Oh, and to make fun of it, too.

41 posted on 05/21/2006 10:07:27 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: new yorker 77

I showed my embrace by leaving NY when she got elected.


42 posted on 05/21/2006 10:10:35 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
But the Democrat has shed much of her image as a broom-riding carpetbagger and gained more than a little respect and appreciation in some of the most conservative corners of the state.

And what color is the sky on your home planet?

43 posted on 05/21/2006 10:12:17 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Join me! Every night I pray for Global Warming . (And I think it's beginning to work.))
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To: Doctor Stochastic
The Opposition has always underestimated the Clintons's ability to mount a campaign.

Pardon me?
44 posted on 05/21/2006 10:14:15 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny!)
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To: David Allen
When she says "our Lord," you know she doesn't mean it.

Well, she mutters a word between "our" and "Lord" that you can hear only if you're about a foot away.

The word is "Dark."

45 posted on 05/21/2006 10:52:45 AM PDT by Erasmus ("Peace on you!" -- Imam Ofo)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
HILLARY. New York state has embraced her. Will the rest of the country if she runs for president?

Ummmmmmm . . . . . . NO!!
46 posted on 05/21/2006 11:03:04 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: BIGLOOK
Pardon me?

That's one of their techniques.

47 posted on 05/21/2006 11:10:17 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: angkor

Which is why you see the beginning of a relentless media campaign to make her the de facto winner, already...


48 posted on 05/21/2006 11:13:17 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Liberalism- What A Pagan Religion......)
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To: new yorker 77
"She is also a dwarf with a cromagnon sized head who loves her blond hair treatment with blue contact lenses. So proud of her 'real self'."

Don't forget the wide-load's piano legs and thunder thighs!!

Paints a pretty picture. 'Embrace her' doesn't come to mind here!! LOL

I guess if NY thinks Schumer is a winner - Wide-load must be okay with them too. Must be something in the water there!!

49 posted on 05/21/2006 11:22:43 AM PDT by LADY J
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To: new yorker 77
This bears repeating,with your permission:

I can not embrace her with both middle fingers already extended.

Sign me "Another dissatified New Yorker"

50 posted on 05/21/2006 11:25:51 AM PDT by jos65
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To: new yorker 77
She has no idea how everyone she met that day truly detested her and would never vote for her.

But yet the beast got elected. I only know a couple people that voted for her and they will not do it again. They pull these stories out of dreamland..

51 posted on 05/21/2006 11:27:13 AM PDT by The Mayor ( We are moving in on Albany! http://www.newyorkcoalition.org)
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To: Baynative

My aunt voted for Reagan for President, to get him out of California.

Remember, the last NY Senator who ran for president was Robert Kennedy. That didn't work out well either. Wacked by a Muslim in CA.


52 posted on 05/21/2006 11:28:55 AM PDT by donmeaker (Burn the UN flag publicly.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic; All
Hillary never attained an elected office prior to her success in the NY senate run.

I don't recall any legislation she's authored.

Hillary stood on the sidelines while Bush, Giuliani and Pataki announced the emergency aid to NYC after 9/11.

Hillary wasn't warmly embraced when she showed up at tributes and funerals of cops and firefighters who perished on 9/11. (This is BIG).

NY state citizens can't stand her (other than Ithaca and Buffalo).

Bill ain't there to pardon her constituency anymore.

Hillary isn't nor has ever been a New Yorker.

Out in '06.
53 posted on 05/21/2006 11:48:02 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny!)
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To: angkor

well, all I can tell you is that in her senate run - she never had to do that. and unfortunately, when her opponent did get into a debate with her - he blew it by walking over to her podium with some "agreement" he was irking her to sign.


54 posted on 05/21/2006 11:51:17 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Dear Ms. Anderson: I'm a Dem living in one of those conservative bits you mentioned.

You're full of it.

Nice try, though.

55 posted on 05/21/2006 11:53:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: SmoothTalker

See Post #4


56 posted on 05/21/2006 11:57:43 AM PDT by no dems (I guess I'm a "Johnny one-note" type voter, but I'll keep singing out against abortion.)
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To: oceanview
all I can tell you is that in her senate run - she never had to do that.

I don't think she'll get a repeat on her NY stealth campaign.

57 posted on 05/21/2006 11:58:48 AM PDT by angkor
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To: jos65

Feel free to use it.

Just remember to give credit here.

I also like.

Pick a finger from one to ten. You have a 20% chance of being right.


58 posted on 05/21/2006 12:00:00 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: angkor

she will.

to beat Hillary, we are going to need alot of conservative 527 organizations. the media will give her a free ride, and the republican party won't have the stones to run a negative campaign against her. we need 527s.


59 posted on 05/21/2006 12:07:15 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: tcrlaf
beginning of a relentless media campaign to make her the de facto winner, already...

I haven't seen that. In fact the talking heads regularly bring up the topic that she may not even be nominated.

There's been a backdrop that she would run since late 2000. But there's also been a growing realization that she can't possibly win. She is not Bill Clinton, and she does not have his charisma, his stamina, or his genial nature. In fact she's precisely the opposite in every respect.

When I think of Hitlery, it's like the doomed mechanical candidacy of Bob Dole combined with the persona of Imelda Marcos. Utterly repellent.

60 posted on 05/21/2006 12:10:28 PM PDT by angkor
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