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Bush Losing Hispanics? (GOP ship of state becoming the Titanic?)
The American Thinker ^ | May 21, 2006 | Richard Baehr

Posted on 05/21/2006 12:41:14 PM PDT by quidnunc

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1 posted on 05/21/2006 12:41:15 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

Tell that to Mayor 'there's no way he can win' Nagin.

Fake Polls are for morons too lazy to think.


2 posted on 05/21/2006 12:43:29 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: quidnunc

WaPo probably polled their janitorial staff...

Yes, not all janitors are hispanic, but liberals can't tell the difference between immigrants.

(To a liberal, all people of color look alike.)


3 posted on 05/21/2006 12:44:26 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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4 posted on 05/21/2006 12:45:46 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Look at profile for current ways to deal with illegals immigration)
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To: quidnunc

Does the GOP establishment honestly believe that by giving 30 million Hispanics (and their tens of millions of relatives) amenesty they have a chance in hell of securing even a small fraction of their vote? This amnesty would be an electoral disaster beyond their worst nightmares.


5 posted on 05/21/2006 12:46:09 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: quidnunc

Brought to you by cheap labor "conservatives" who have not really enforced immigration laws since the 1990 immigration "reform" act that Bush 41 signed. If this trend is maintained, sadly many good Republicans will be taken down.


6 posted on 05/21/2006 12:46:11 PM PDT by RFT1
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To: quidnunc

this is the "elephant in the room" on this immigration issue. where are legal Hispanic Americans on this issue? I think its tough to read.

if the only way to get votes of legal Hispanic Americans - is too allow 100 million new Hispanic ummigrants over the next 20 years, via amnesty and family "unification" - this country is in serious trouble.


7 posted on 05/21/2006 12:46:51 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: new yorker 77

Leftwing writers at the Washington Post:

Writing the paper Americans won't read.


8 posted on 05/21/2006 12:48:10 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Boycott Communist Citgo!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

The establishment is represented by the likes of Fred Barnes and his ilk, who live mostly in the Northeast Corridor, plus a good sized contingent that live in California and Texas exurbs/gated communities that are far removed from reality. I am sick of the sellout of America for 30 peices of silver.


9 posted on 05/21/2006 12:49:13 PM PDT by RFT1
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The GOP isn't smart enough to figure out that it is signing it's own death warrant by giving these illegal aliens amnesty. They will NEVER vote republican. Every one of these RINO senators will be targeted for defeat. Rush cannot say it often enough....when we run on conservative principles, we win every time.


10 posted on 05/21/2006 12:50:35 PM PDT by Buffettfan (VIVA LA MIGRA! - LONG LIVE THE MINUTEMEN!)
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they are between a rock and a hard place (not that I favor the amnesty mind you).

while its true that alot of white and african american Democrats do not favor amnesty, or the kinds of new immigrant numbers this bill would allow in - are those blocks willing to change their votes and go republican over this issue?

The Dems are clearly betting that their current base, will not switch parties over amnesty and new mass immigration.

Which side is right?


11 posted on 05/21/2006 12:50:55 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Buffettfan

its not so much a concern over how the newly minted immigrants would vote - the issue is more, how will current hispanic american citizens vote on this issue?

I haven't seen any good polls on that.


12 posted on 05/21/2006 12:53:00 PM PDT by oceanview
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Even if these new immigrants had a fully westeren background, just back their economic status alone, most will make less than $25K a year, will see them vote Democratic by a 2-1 margin when they vote for politicians that will give them all sorts of benifits, as what has happened to California. But with non Westeren and often Marxist backgrounds, even immigrants that are far up on the economic ladder, like the H-1B visa holders that become citizens vote for Democrats by a 2-1 or even a 3-1 margin.

I have mentioned this before, but it bears repeating, do business owners and managers who have been behind this mess since the early 80s lack the critical thinking skills to see that this will produce a national political enviroment that will be far worse than the carter years were in terms of the govrenmnet being anti business?


13 posted on 05/21/2006 12:55:02 PM PDT by RFT1
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To: quidnunc

Am I the only one to think it is wrong for writers such as this to continue to lump all Hispanics together in the same voting bloc?

The only Hispanics I can tell that are in favor of kowtowing to the illegals are the illegals that are already here!


14 posted on 05/21/2006 12:55:15 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Why do the AFL-CIO and UFW want illegal aliens?)
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To: oceanview

Legal hispanic here, as far as I am concerned the most pressing issue right now is our loss of immigration control, I strongly support fining all businessed that hire illegal aliens and militarizing our borders if need be.


15 posted on 05/21/2006 12:55:40 PM PDT by pennboricua
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Okay, Dick. I guess Bush and the others should just ignore that knuckle draggin' conservative base and placate the Hispanics (all of whom support illegal immigration?). That seems like a winning strategy to me.
16 posted on 05/21/2006 12:56:01 PM PDT by isrul
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To: RFT1
this left wing propaganda is a set up by left wing media to insure dnc control for the next 100 years.
scare the rhinos into allowing 60million uneducated
unskilled types which will vote the dem back into power.
sadly , idiots like hagel, martinez, and bush have fallen for the scam. these rhinos are so out of touch and worried about what wash post , NY times , and cbs.. leftist will say versus the American public. these pol and experts are truely out of touch and stupid .
17 posted on 05/21/2006 12:56:02 PM PDT by BurtSB
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To: RFT1

I certainly agree with you about the NEW immigrants future voting patterns.

but what about current hispanic american citizens, which way are they going over this issue?


18 posted on 05/21/2006 12:56:36 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: pennboricua

its a hard issue to read. myself, being in NY, most of my latino neighbors and co-workers are from cuba, puerto rico, dominican republic, etc. and they agree with your sentiment. but not being in the southwest where there is more of a mexican/central american demographic, is the opinion different in that block?


19 posted on 05/21/2006 1:00:34 PM PDT by oceanview
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The Dems are clearly betting that their current base, will not switch parties over amnesty and new mass immigration.

It's a safe bet. Traditional Dem voters will convince themselves that without the pressure their party put on the GOP this amnesty - a huge addition their precious multicultural soup - wouldn't have happened.

Also, a large chunk of these new citizens are natural Democrats -- 29% of all illegal aliens are on welfare. You think their welfare state mentality will vanish after they become citizens? Not a chance. They know full well the Dems are the party of handouts.

20 posted on 05/21/2006 1:01:34 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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