Skip to comments.The Massive Yet Tiny Engine (gearhead tech breakthrough!)
Posted on 05/21/2006 3:35:17 PM PDT by ovrtaxt
Imagine dumping the big V-8 in your SUV for a 25-pound, 2.4 liter engine that gives you 150 miles per gallon on biodiesel - with a boost in horsepower and torque to boot. Meet Raphial Morgado and the little engine that could... With up to 40 times the power to weight ratio of a conventional engine, flexible fuel compatibility, a displacement of 850 cubic inches and the torque of a 32-cylinder engine, the MYT is the beginning of a new paradigm for engines in the 21st century!
"The inspiration for the MYT Engine design came from the need to have an engine that can stand up to the tremendous abuse of drag racing. After literally blowing up more than my share of engines during racing, I swore to myself that I'd build something that met the required needs while providing higher-durability & reduced complexity in the process. Also, because this design was originally intended for the output demands of the drag-strip, I wanted a design that would give me the largest displacement, highest torque, and lightest weight available. The Massive Yet Tiny engine meets those needs, with 850 cubic inches of displacement, 32-pulses per cycle, and a 150 pound package measuring only 14" by 14" in diameter."
"By replacing an 800 pound V-8 engine with a 25 pound MYT and running it on biodiesel, we can achieve 150 miles per gallon in an otherwise conventional vehicle -- plus, you're going to have better take-off and stopping power by removing that 800 pound engine. That's what we can do. It is achievable." - Raphial Morgado
The MYT engine is the result of a $4 million dollar R&D project undertaken by Angel Labs LLC to build the ultimate internal combusion engine. Inspired by drag racing, inventor Raphial Morgado designed the engine with a focus on power, torque, and fuel-efficiency to meet the hefty demands of the today's automotive applications in a lightweight package. The result was a revolutionary design with a power-to-weight ratio up to 40 to 1, over 3,000 ft/lbs of torque, and a diesel-mode mileage in excess of 150 mpg!
This series of 3 videoclips provides an in-depth look at what the MYT is, how it works, and why it's important. The "Los Angeles Auto-Show Presentation" features a 10-minute commentary on the technology by inventor Raphial Morgado, and provides details on the background of the engine and what makes it so unique. The "MYT Engine Description" clip is a 5-minute narrated animation providing a walk-through on the operation of the engine and how it compares to traditional interal combustion technology, and the "MYT Engine Testing" video shows both a closeup rotation of the cylinders in the Angel Labs prototype, as well as 2 minutes of test-videos shot with the MYT in dyno-testing on a 150-psi non-combustion airstream.
I'm all for it.
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People should treat these claims as scams until proven otherwise.
Then do it, and then get back to us.
How much to put that engine in my 2000 GMC Sonoma and my 2006 Grand Caravan this NOW!
Imagine losing your nest egg in a scam.
AND THE ME DESIGN IS NOT A ROTARY OR WANKEL?
They are. They've received prizes from NASA, and Ford is working with them.
Nope- not a wankel. Check the interview- he expalins how the cylinders and combustion chambers work.
I wish him luck.
American Antigravity? Yep. I believe anything they say on THAT website.
Man, talk about a win-win-win scenario...
I can throw one of these puppies in my Prius, reduce total weight by 200 pounds, increase mileage threefold and have 7-second quarter miles...
I may have to get two.
Are they all personally signed by the tooth fairy?
If true, and he patented it he will be one rich dude.
From what I understand, there is one pending- but they say they will sell licences to manufacurers, and only take royalties.
I think they genuinely are more interested in changing the world than getting rich. Sure, lots of people are too cynical to believe it, but there really are good people out there.
"A little over a year ago, the mysterious "Kosol" appeared in the newsgroups with a grandiose plan for antigravity based on what he claims is information from spiritual beings. Many think it's a hoax, but his newsgroup is rapidly becoming an online cultural phenomenon, and rumors are beginning to circulate about European efforts to construct a device called, "The Kosol Sphere"...
Did you check it? Very much like an extreme Popular Mechanics.
As a younger man I had a passing interest in drag racing when their speeds for the 1/4 mile run was in the 200-225mph range. Since then that interest had disappeared.
Last night, on the radio, I heard two qualifers ran at speeds of 330+mph! Whaaaat??
Can someone tell me what's changed in the past 25 years? Thanks.
I'll belive it when I see it.
I'm immediately suspicious of a person whose title has to be defaulted to "inventor" because they don't have any other credentials.
Nah, then the secret would be out and Congress would pass some new laws of physics that would really screw things up.
What changed? more F, less m --> greater a?
Art Bell was also a cultural phenomenon. He pretty much crashed and burned after the Y2K problem didn't cause world anarchy and economic collapse.
Dang, that looks good!
Sure, lots of people are too cynical to believe it, but there really are good people out there.
There are also con artists and the gullible.
I am a gearhead for sure, but I hope we have a few comments from those that are really technically competent. Looks interesting, but I will wait to see it in a few dozen cars under constant use for a few weeks.
Tell me that's a typo.
A TINY engine with a displacement of 850 CUBIC INCHES?!!!
I looked at the video clips. They leave a lot out. However, if you look at the very first few seconds of the "testing" video, there is a moving cutaway model.
That explains how they implemented the concepts in the
"how it works" clip.
It appears that the "pistons" are a series of "pucks" that are affixed to two separately rotating rings. The combustion chamber is donut-shaped and the pucks roate through the outside ring of the donut. The resulting power shaft goes through the "hole" of the donut. The inside part of the chamber is split in two. Half the pistons are attached at the front half and half are attached at the back. The two assemblies take turns accelerating as the pistons go around the combustion chamber.
It appears there is some mechanism to smoothe out the motion into a continuous rotation, it also likely regulates the movement of the two piston assemblies.
I was a little skeptical, but I have to admit that this engine might actually work. It may not deliver what he promises, but standard piston engines are woefully inefficient. The way this works appears to eliminate a lot of the wasted motion (and thus power).
Couple areas of concern - not sure how you would seal the combustion chamber when there are three pieces rotating against each other - I suppose it could be done with rings like pistons have.
Secondly, machining that donut combustion chamber looks complicated. Not undoable, just not something the average engine machine shop is going to be able to do easily.
Running biodiesel would likely be good for lubricating all the piston assemblies. I don't see any way to lubricate any of that without injecting oil into the combustion chamber.
Interesting. I sure wish the guy well. It certainly looks like there is some serious engineering involved in it.
"If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is".
Yeh, but with all the money he made that 60 + year-old managed to snag a 20-something filipino wife and move to the Philippines leaving other far-out tinfoil-hat kooks (like George Noury) to fill in for him.
"Power-to-weight ratio of 40 to 1? (units? apples to oranges?)
Must be a math system based on different principles.
These things come along every once in a while. Let's see some dynamometer results then we decide.
I recommend you sell your house, borrow as much as you can, and invest heavily.
The 850 c.i. likely comes from the fact that the combustion chamber is a big donut-shaped tube. There are two sets of four pistons and they move back and forth relative to each other (while they all rotate around the donut). The total effective displacement is probably something like 150-200% of the area of the "donut".
Its weird, but it looks like he may have something.
I was thinking about that -- my '68 V8 Wildcat had a 430 CI engine and it was a MONSTER.
Wouldn't it be -Wrinkled Dog Day?
I am always sceptical of these things, but I must admit, this thing is pretty ingenious. I know the Wankel looks good on paper, and it runs great, but its just not as efficient as ones common sense might think, it has a bunch of problems.
The cars got a lot lighter and the engines got a lot more powerful. Top Fuel dumped carbs, uses fuel injection, and runs nitromethane now. Current horsepower estimates are in the 8000hp range.
The 350mph barrier in Top Fuel is guesstimated to fall by the end of this decade, with people touching 400mph.
That said, the rocket-car folks are looking at the 500mph barrier in the 1/4...
You're a kneejerk cynic. Why don't you look at the recognition this has gotten from places like NASA and the auto industry?
But nevermind, it's more fun to be a jerk and meet everything with a jaded eye.
Er, with people touching 400mph in the next 15 years.
Yup- 850 ci, dude.
It's calculated by displacement per revolution of the driveshaft. I think the cylinder fires like 16 times per rev.
There goes a new design for the history heap. If this is true, it will go the way of many designs that have preceded it.