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Salt & Light: Warning About THE DA VINCI CODE Is an Act of Loving Kindness and Truth
MovieguideĀ® ^ | May 25, 2006 | Dr. Ted Baehr with Dr. Tom Snyder

Posted on 05/26/2006 5:55:34 AM PDT by Simi Valley Tom

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To: theDentist
First, I will not allow it to pass that we are dealing with mere "inaccuracies".

The whole premise is a lie. An odious, blaspehmous lie. And that, being passed off as fact.

Sorry to drop to this level, but..

Would a film based on the "fact" that the holocaust was a hoax be just entertainment in spite of "inaccuracies"?
21 posted on 05/26/2006 7:10:59 AM PDT by Praxeus
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To: stuartcr

See what you wish.

You attempt to frame my response.

Sorry, not today.


22 posted on 05/26/2006 7:12:08 AM PDT by Praxeus
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To: stuartcr
Didn't God know that this movie was going to be produced?

Yes, of course He knew. He also knew you would ask that question. :)

Why didn't He stop it, if it is so horrible?

For the same reason He didn't stop Adam from disobeying Him in the garden, and for all the other sins of man since then. We either follow Him or follow our own desires. One brings peace, joy and a contentment in any circumstance that there are no words to describe. The other produces the opposite. It has always been that way.

23 posted on 05/26/2006 7:17:37 AM PDT by lupie
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To: Praxeus

Answer the question. What entertainment out there does not contain inaccuracies, lies, etc?


24 posted on 05/26/2006 7:18:17 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,400+ snide replies and counting!)
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To: Praxeus

Nor any day, I'm sure. Have a nice weekend.


25 posted on 05/26/2006 7:18:24 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: lupie

pearls. swine. rend.

Get ready, here it comes.


26 posted on 05/26/2006 7:19:50 AM PDT by Praxeus
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To: SubMareener
For those who came in late, here is the Gospel of Jesus Christ: "God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. That whomsoever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life." That is it. That is all. All the rest is commentary.

Until someone asks what it means to believe. Then your simplistic approach fails miserably. Is it mere intellectual ascent ... as in "I believe George Washington was an actual person who lived 200 years ago, even though I never saw him?"

It is easier for people to believe that Jesus was God's son if they believe He was born of a Virgin.

News flash to you ... the virgin birth of Christ is a stumbling block to belief for most of the world; it makes belief in Him difficult for most ... not easier.

But it is not necessary for the Gospel to be true ...

To the "theologically challenged" it is not necessary.

Whether or not Jesus married and had children is also irrelevant to the Gospel.

Hogwash to the extreme. You are attempting to take the most unique individual in the universe (only one who is fully God AND fully man) and reduce him to just a man. Give him a wife and kids, let his interests be divided between his ministry and a family, doesn't matter if he was sinless or not, doesn't matter whether he was resurrected or resuscitated. Just believe in Him and your safe.

Your position here is theologically, morally, and intellectually bankrupt.

27 posted on 05/26/2006 7:20:07 AM PDT by dartuser ("In 100 years the Bible will be forgotten and eliminated." - Voltaire (1694 - 1778))
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To: lupie

I believe, what we do, are His desires, and that He knows about them before we are born, and He creates us, knowing what we will choose.


28 posted on 05/26/2006 7:21:29 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Simi Valley Tom

So the "loving thing to do" is to warn someone that they are too much of a gullible moron to realize that the Da Vinci Code is fictional, and therefore they must never see the movie or read the book?


29 posted on 05/26/2006 7:24:07 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: theDentist
The question is facetious if further pursued, given my response.

The question seeks to dismiss the greater issue.

The answer to your question is there if you are being sincere. If not, there is no answer that will satisfy you.

30 posted on 05/26/2006 7:25:11 AM PDT by Praxeus
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To: SubMareener

You are using the "argument from silence". Not a good idea in apologetics.


31 posted on 05/26/2006 7:25:18 AM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: theDentist

You know, many programs, movies and novels include a statement that says they are a work of fiction, AND that any characters in the story are also fiction.

The Da Vinci Code, cloaked as fiction, has been treated as truth, by those that wish to eliminate THE TRUTH.

Newspapers are on the decline because of their daily deceit.


32 posted on 05/26/2006 7:25:36 AM PDT by wizr (John 3:16)
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To: Praxeus

In other words, you cannot think of one. Fair enough, neither could I.


33 posted on 05/26/2006 7:26:40 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,400+ snide replies and counting!)
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To: theDentist

Hmmm..

I wonder what color the wardroom was on the Titanic.


34 posted on 05/26/2006 7:30:26 AM PDT by Praxeus
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To: theDentist; Praxeus

Post 19 was a very good response as to why Christians find this movie objectionable. The normal process in a fictional work is to use real settings of time and place and introduce fictional characters. When you introduce real characters you are at a different level. Post 19 used the holocaust as an example. How about a story about George Washington portraying him with inaccuracies? I think much of the stir about this work results from the author saying in some venues that it is factual, and then when pinned down in other venues saying that it is fictional.


35 posted on 05/26/2006 7:36:16 AM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: Simi Valley Tom
Socrates was poisoned for poisoning the youth.

Centuries later, it was Mae West.

Then Elvis.

Then the Beatles.

Now (insert demonic rock band here.)

The love of God and Jesus Christ have withstood all of these.

Sincere, believing Christians need not be dismayed.

36 posted on 05/26/2006 8:01:11 AM PDT by ihatemyalarmclock (actually, I have two and use them. I'm not lazy, just sleepy.)
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To: stuartcr

It isn't about what we believe, it is about what is True and what He says is True and how we respond to Him and His Truth. Lots of people believe lots of things, many of the wrong, (some of them get it mostly right) because they are led astray by what appears to be God's way, but it is not. The choice is what we want to believe vs what God says is True. We are supposed to take every thought and put it under the authority of Jesus Christ. ouch!


37 posted on 05/26/2006 8:03:17 AM PDT by lupie
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To: lupie

How would you show what is true, without believing?


38 posted on 05/26/2006 8:09:42 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Praxeus
I wonder what color the wardroom was on the Titanic.

Ice blue, I'd imagine. :-)

39 posted on 05/26/2006 8:25:31 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,400+ snide replies and counting!)
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To: Binghamton_native
Exactly. He's hyping the book and movie, and he's well aware that creating a buzz about either increases sales. Like Salman Rushdie, he knew a lot of people were going to be beside themselves about the work.

Many many books are based on real events, and introduce fictional characters and twists on truth, or downright falsehoods. And if he believes some aspects of his book are true (as some believe the Illuminati and the Elders of Zion control the world), he'll say so.

40 posted on 05/26/2006 8:39:30 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,400+ snide replies and counting!)
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