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Dick Durbin: Consult with Mexico on Border Fence
NewsMax ^ | 5/28/06 | NewsMax

Posted on 05/28/2006 11:12:42 AM PDT by wagglebee

The number two Democrat in the Senate is urging the House of Representatives not to repudiate a provision in the immigration reform bill that would force the U.S. to consult with Mexico before building a border fence.

"To think that we would build a fence without any conversation or consultation with Mexico - that doesn't make sense," Sen. Dick Durbin told "Fox News Sunday."

Asked why he felt such consultations were necessary, the top Democrat explained: "Good fences make good neighbors, too. And remember that when it's all over there will be cities across the border from one another in the United States and Mexico. And you'll find in most instances they'll try to find a level of cooperation.

"We ultimately want to have the cooperation of the Mexican government," Durbin insisted.

An amendment slipped into the Senate bill at the last minute by Sen. Chris Dodd mandates consultations with Mexican officials before any fence construction begins.

It reads:

"CONSULTATION REQUIREMENT -- Consultations between United States and Mexican authorities at the federal, state, and local levels concerning the construction of additional fencing and related border security structures along the United States-Mexico border shall be undertaken prior to commencing any new construction, in order to solicit the views of affected communities, lessen tensions and foster greater understanding and stronger cooperation on this and other important issues of mutual concern."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
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This sounds a lot like sKerry's "global test."
1 posted on 05/28/2006 11:12:44 AM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

America wants a fence, Mexico doesn't.

Compromise? The Dims want five feet of fence, then five feet of no fence.

We ought to agree to no fence, and put in unmarked minefields instead.


2 posted on 05/28/2006 11:15:33 AM PDT by Renderofveils (Qur’an 8:39 “So, fight them until all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.”)
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To: wagglebee

Hey DICK would you "consult" with your neighbors before putting up a fence? I THINK NOT!


3 posted on 05/28/2006 11:16:03 AM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: wagglebee

WTF?? Sounds like Durban is working for Mexico instead of U.S. taxpayers.


4 posted on 05/28/2006 11:17:09 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: wagglebee

A consultation is fine if it goes like this: "Mexico, we're building a fence." When I put up a fence in my back yard I told my neighbor "I'm putting up a fence to keep my dogs in my yard." No further consultations were needed.


5 posted on 05/28/2006 11:17:42 AM PDT by GBA
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To: wagglebee

"Turbin" Durbin wouldn't think this way if he came from Texas.


6 posted on 05/28/2006 11:18:07 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: wagglebee

Vicente Fox dictates our immigration policy anyway.


7 posted on 05/28/2006 11:18:40 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: wagglebee
from the Specter Amendment:

SA 4188.

http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r109:1:./temp/~r109Wp52Rf:e0:

   On page 33, between lines 9 and 10, insert the following:

   SEC. 117. COOPERATION WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO.

    (a) Cooperation Regarding Border Security.--The Secretary of State, in cooperation with the Secretary and representatives of Federal, State, and local law enforcement agencies that are involved in border security and immigration enforcement efforts, shall work with the appropriate officials from the Government of Mexico to improve coordination between the United States and Mexico regarding--

    (1) improved border security along the international border between the United States and Mexico;

    (2) the reduction of human trafficking and smuggling between the United States and Mexico;

    (3) the reduction of drug trafficking and smuggling between the United States and Mexico;

    (4) the reduction of gang membership in the United States and Mexico;

    (5) the reduction of violence against women in the United States and Mexico; and

    (6) the reduction of other violence and criminal activity.

    (b) Cooperation Regarding Education on Immigration Laws.--The Secretary of State, in cooperation with other appropriate Federal officials, shall work with the appropriate officials from the Government of Mexico to carry out activities to educate citizens and nationals of Mexico regarding eligibility for status as a nonimmigrant under Federal law to ensure that the citizens and nationals are not exploited while working in the United States.

    (c) Cooperation Regarding Circular Migration.--The Secretary of State, in cooperation with the Secretary of Labor and other appropriate Federal officials, shall work with the appropriate officials from the Government of Mexico to improve coordination between the United States and Mexico to encourage circular migration, including assisting in the development of economic opportunities and providing job training for citizens and nationals in Mexico.

    (d) Consultation Requirement.--Federal, State, and local representatives in the United States shall consult with their counterparts in Mexico concerning the construction of additional fencing and related border security structures along the international border between the United States and Mexico, as authorized by this title, before the commencement of any such construction in order to--

    (1) solicit the views of affected communities;

    (2) lessen tensions; and

    (3) foster greater understanding and stronger cooperation on this and other important security issues of mutual concern.

    (e) Annual Report.--Not later than 180 days after the date of enactment of this Act, and annually thereafter, the Secretary of State shall submit to Congress a report on the actions taken by the United States and Mexico under this section.

8 posted on 05/28/2006 11:18:54 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: wagglebee

I think this guy's turbin is to tight around his head and cutting off what blood does get there once in a while....

You guys gonna put this idiot back in office are ya??????


9 posted on 05/28/2006 11:19:12 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: Renderofveils
To hell with a fence.

1) Dig a wide, deep moat the entire length of the Mexican-USA border.
2) Use the dirt to raise the New Orleans levies.
3) Relocate all the surplus Florida alligators and put them in the moat.

Any more problems you want me to solve?

10 posted on 05/28/2006 11:19:42 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: wagglebee

Ahh. Consult with the robbers before installing a security alarm. Duh!

"But it will make it harder for me to rob your house"


11 posted on 05/28/2006 11:19:47 AM PDT by WatchYourself
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To: wagglebee

If so, Arlen Specter certainly passes Kerry's "global test" with flying colors. The only question is who told Specter to add the amendment requiring Mexican approval before a fence can be installed. My guess would be Bush, who will do anything to help his friends in the cheap labor lobby.


12 posted on 05/28/2006 11:20:14 AM PDT by Holden Magroin
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To: Renderofveils

"We ultimately want to have the cooperation of the Mexican government," Durbin insisted.

As long as we're dreaming, I would like the traitor Durbingogue to ultimately resign and give a real apology for smearing our troops, but we can't have everything we want.


13 posted on 05/28/2006 11:20:20 AM PDT by abishai
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To: proudofthesouth
Well it's nice to see that some of the billions we send to Mexico , come back in the form of bribes to our needy senate types.
14 posted on 05/28/2006 11:20:42 AM PDT by fantom
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To: proudofthesouth

Rats work for everyone EXCEPT America.


15 posted on 05/28/2006 11:21:05 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: gubamyster

ping


16 posted on 05/28/2006 11:21:38 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: wagglebee

Turban Durbin is off the wall. (pun?) If it were up to Mexico, Fox would be the only person left there.


17 posted on 05/28/2006 11:21:52 AM PDT by RoadTest (For the love of money is the root of all evil - I Timothy 6:10)
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To: Ken522

"Turbin" Durbin wouldn't think this way if he came from Texas.

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you. Durbin would be just as big of a dumbass in Texas as he is in Illnois.


18 posted on 05/28/2006 11:22:20 AM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: wagglebee

A good DEFENSE makes good neighbors too?


19 posted on 05/28/2006 11:23:38 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Freedom or a baloney sandwich? A DemocRAT will ALWAYS choose the baloney sandwich.)
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To: wagglebee

Mexico thinks we should have ladders on the Mexican side of the fence and trampolines on the American side.


21 posted on 05/28/2006 11:23:54 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Holden Magroin

The only question is who told Specter to add the amendment requiring Mexican approval before a fence can be installed. My guess would be Bush, who will do anything to help his friends in the cheap labor lobby.

No it was Dodd, the latest sob who thinks people love him so much he is running for President.


22 posted on 05/28/2006 11:25:20 AM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: DCPatriot
To hell with a fence.

1) Dig a wide, deep moat the entire length of the Mexican-USA border.
2) Use the dirt to raise the New Orleans levies.
3) Relocate all the surplus Florida alligators and put them in the moat.

Any more problems you want me to solve?

Change Florida Alligators to Salt Water Crocodiles from Australia and it works for me.

23 posted on 05/28/2006 11:26:01 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: wagglebee

Hello, my name is Dick Durbin, and I have my head up my a$$


24 posted on 05/28/2006 11:26:31 AM PDT by 12th_Monkey
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To: TomGuy
Specter is in power because BUSH didn't want real conservatives like Pat Toomey in the Senate.


25 posted on 05/28/2006 11:27:40 AM PDT by Holden Magroin
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To: wagglebee

Dick Durbin: Consult with Mexico on Border Fence

Vincente Fox's response,

We don't need no stinkin' badges, I mean we don't need no stinkin' fences.


26 posted on 05/28/2006 11:29:19 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: wagglebee

How does this freakin' half-wit function on a daily basis?


27 posted on 05/28/2006 11:29:49 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Life is too short to go through it clenched of sphincter and void of humor - it's okay to laugh.)
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To: teletech
Hey DICK would you "consult" with your neighbors before putting up a fence? I THINK NOT!

Well, I would.

I'd get them to pay for half of it.

28 posted on 05/28/2006 11:30:16 AM PDT by skip_intro
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To: wagglebee
"Good fences make good neighbors, too. And remember that when it's all over there will be cities across the border from one another in the United States and Mexico.

Psst, psst. Dick, there are things called "gates" which would be used to CONTOL who comes and goes.

29 posted on 05/28/2006 11:32:58 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: DCPatriot
1) Dig a wide, deep moat the entire length of the Mexican-USA border. 2) Use the dirt to raise the New Orleans levies. 3) Relocate all the surplus Florida alligators and put them in the moat.

This is absolutely my favorite solution.

30 posted on 05/28/2006 11:33:17 AM PDT by American Quilter
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To: DCPatriot

Best idea I've heard yet. Let's just make sure the gators are properly fed. Wouldn't want PETA to complain.


31 posted on 05/28/2006 11:33:30 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: Renderofveils
Let's send this guy as a diplomat.


Winfield Scott

32 posted on 05/28/2006 11:35:52 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: wagglebee

You have got to hand it to Durbin - he can 'talk' like few others on the hill. The spin is mind boogling and, I guess, sells to his base. It's almost mindless with each sentence loaded with a lie on top of a lie. I do wonder if he believe the stuff that he is saying or simply is always on point in a political way.


33 posted on 05/28/2006 11:41:43 AM PDT by Sonora
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To: wagglebee
Yea it make as much sense as Israel consulting with the Palestinian on Israel's fence
34 posted on 05/28/2006 11:44:00 AM PDT by tophat9000 (If it was illegal French Canadians would La Raza back them? Racist back there race over country)
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To: wagglebee
I know that this is preaching to the choir but, isn't Dick Durbin: Consult with Mexico on Border Fence along the lines of al Qaida consulting with America on the best way to kill more Americans??
35 posted on 05/28/2006 11:52:12 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Holden Magroin
It was Chris Dodd (Dim of Conn.) who got Specter to put the provision in. Dodd, long-time friend of the Sandinistas, considers himself to be an expert on Latin America.
36 posted on 05/28/2006 11:52:50 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Holden Magroin

"Specter is in power because BUSH didn't want real conservatives like Pat Toomey in the Senate."

Very true. Bush is much more of a "big tent" Republican than a conservative.


37 posted on 05/28/2006 11:57:28 AM PDT by BW2221
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To: DCPatriot
1) Dig a wide, deep moat the entire length of the Mexican-USA border.

Ummmmm . . . . there's already a moat along part of the border. It's called the Rio Grande and hasn't stopped any of the illegals.
38 posted on 05/28/2006 11:59:09 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: wagglebee

39 posted on 05/28/2006 12:01:33 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: wagglebee
"We ultimately want to have the cooperation of the Mexican government," Durbin insisted.

This is soooo simple. Cooperation is easy.

We build - they watch. There ya go!

40 posted on 05/28/2006 12:01:53 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ 2005, Texas Minutemen El Paso, Oct and April 2006)
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To: wagglebee
I don't know of any of my family since 1742 in the USA has consulted with the neighbor to built a fence. We always told the neighbor we were going to put up a fence but never ever asked their permission.

Dubin and several other senators need to move to Iran a few years. Hello even move to Mexico and get a taste of restrictions.

Kerry of course needs to Move to North Vietnam. Gawd! The people of Mass. cannot be that stupid to reelect Kennedy and Kerry.
41 posted on 05/28/2006 12:03:09 PM PDT by Tannerone
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To: wagglebee

I'd like to know what "consult" means. Does that mean Mexico has any say in the fence, or only that we'll tell them when and where we're building it?


42 posted on 05/28/2006 12:04:56 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: DCPatriot

2nd Panama Canal. Call it the American Canal. Would be huge for business and would stop this nonsense for good.


43 posted on 05/28/2006 12:06:25 PM PDT by sheana
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To: wagglebee
One of my friends sent me a great solution this morning:

Dig a moat the entire length of the border

Use the dirt to reinforce and elevate the New Orleans levees

Put Florida's alligators in the moat. Dick Durbin too.

44 posted on 05/28/2006 12:07:15 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (Fools and fanatics are always certain of themselves, but the wise are full of doubts.)
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To: All

You guys need to knock off the land mines and alligator moat comments, sheesh.


45 posted on 05/28/2006 12:09:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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To: sheana
Call it the American Canal. Would be huge for business and would stop this nonsense for good.

People may laugh at the suggestion...but it can be done.

It would be a boon for commerce too.

46 posted on 05/28/2006 12:10:26 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: JohnD9207
No it was Dodd, the latest sob who thinks people love him so much he is running for President.

Nope, sorry...It was the people at this link who think they've already got a done deal...http://www.spp.gov/

47 posted on 05/28/2006 12:10:46 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: Bernard Marx
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1612942/posts

"We do not advocate shooting illegals or mining the borders." - Jim Robinson

48 posted on 05/28/2006 12:11:36 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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To: HarleyLady27
{Durbin}

You guys gonna put this idiot back in office are ya??????

What guys are you addressing?

Not many members of this conservative forum who are from Illinois voted for Durbin. Osama Obama either. Any more than conservative members from New York or Mass, or California voted for the senate idiots from their states.

49 posted on 05/28/2006 12:13:38 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: wagglebee

It does indeed sound like Kerry's 'global test' and makes no sense unless you're moving heaven and earth to prove that you're unable/unwilling to protect US interests and citizens. Since this is exactly what Mexico(and the rest of the hemisphere), dream about, you have to wonder how many US senators they've paid off.


50 posted on 05/28/2006 12:15:31 PM PDT by hershey
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