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Why I Boycotted President Fox(At least one person in Sacramento has some stones!)
California Chronicle ^ | May 26, 2006 | Assemblyman Ray Haynes

Posted on 05/28/2006 5:18:51 PM PDT by kellynla

The President of Mexico, Vicente Fox, spoke to the California State Legislature on Thursday; this while the U.S. Senate was voting on an immigration bill. I chose not to go to the Fox speech. Since many people may misconstrue what occurred, I believe a statement explaining my actions is needed.

I have been in the Legislature for some time, and I have seen many heads of state pass through. The American Republic and its operations are fascinating to these foreign politicians, and addressing the California Legislature is often a high point in many dignitaries' travels.

Appropriate decorum dictates that we as Legislators be polite and treat these visitors with the respect their positions deserve.

However, most of these dignitaries are visiting our country to see it at work, and to talk with government officials to help their businesses trade with businesses in California, or to establish some sort of government to government relationship. They are not usually in this country, and in our state, to lobby Congress or the state for a change in policy.

President Fox's trip had no other purpose. He was in this country addressing Legislative bodies for the sole purpose of trying to change U.S. immigration policy. He has continually complained about our policy, openly questioned the legality of Bush putting National Guard units on the border, and even complained when Governor Schwarzenegger vetoed the bill which would have given California driver's licenses to illegal aliens. Throughout the last several years, he has encouraged his citizens to immigrate to this country illegally, and has, in many ways, benefited from that illegal immigration. When his citizens come to California, our taxpayers pick up their medical bills, pay for their education, food, clothing and housing. In return, these Mexican citizens usually take most of their earnings and send them back to Mexico. The relationship is all to Mexico's benefit, and not much help to California.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; callegislature; fox; foxvisit; haynes; rayhaynes; texicoforever; vicentefox
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To: Texasforever
see, so you are used to arguing on the level of an 11 year old. That explains a lot.

It certainly does, doesn't it. And right now it seems the most appropriate way to deal with the current situation between you and I.

As I said, best of luck to you on the long, arduous road to being a grown up.

L

41 posted on 05/28/2006 6:21:46 PM PDT by Lurker (Real conservatives oppose the Presidents amnesty proposal. Help make sure it dies in the House.)
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To: kellynla

I, for one, will not feed the trolls.

Haynes is one of the best people in the CA legislature. He speaks clearly and without the politically correct garbage we get from even many other Republican politicians. Thanks for sharing the article with us.


42 posted on 05/28/2006 6:22:43 PM PDT by fifedom
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To: Lurker
It certainly does, doesn't it. And right now it seems the most appropriate way to deal with the current situation between you and

Well I guess we ain't going to be bestest buddies anymore. I am truly heart broken.

43 posted on 05/28/2006 6:23:31 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

Was there any other assembly, or senators to refrain from attending? Are they all just a bunch of lemmings. I fully expected Vincent Fox to declare himself president of Alta California. Send our governor packing, and we'd all be leaving our homes, because in Mexico, only Mexicans can own land at least in most of it.


44 posted on 05/28/2006 6:28:12 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Texasforever

"I see, so you are used to arguing on the level of an 11 year old. That explains a lot."


ya know you came on my thread and posted your lame remark before I even had a chance to post the entire piece; so the only one who needs to grow up is YOU!


If you had bothered to read the ENTIRE PIECE you would have known the answer to your "question." But you obviously weren't interested in information, debate and/or a dialogue.

I gave up on flame baiters like you years ago.
So don't waste my time.

Class dismissed!


45 posted on 05/28/2006 6:28:17 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: television is just wrong
Was there any other assembly, or senators to refrain from attending?

Well he implied in the article that he asked others to join him. He didn't say if any did. It appears to me he didn't get the publicity he wanted so he wrote the article to explain questions that never were asked.

46 posted on 05/28/2006 6:32:51 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: kellynla
ya know you came on my thread and posted your lame remark before I even had a chance to post the entire piece; so the only one who needs to grow up is YOU!

Sorry but you editorial remarks is what brought me to the article. It appeared that he has paid a heavy price for his actions hence the "stones" remark. So far all I see is a guy that wrote an article bringing attention to his own actions. Sounds a bit self serving to me.

47 posted on 05/28/2006 6:35:37 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

Dennis Hollingsworth, Jim Battin, John Benoit, Russ Bogh, Ray Haynes, Tom McClintock, Chuck Devore, all did not attend.
Before you make snide, uninformed remarks do some homework.


48 posted on 05/28/2006 6:37:49 PM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

Well the article didn't say that did it? I made no snide remarks about the article. I made snide remarks about the editorial comments.


49 posted on 05/28/2006 6:39:25 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

Hence my remark about doing your homework.

"So far all I see is a guy that wrote an article bringing attention to his own actions. Sounds a bit self serving to me."

I would call that a snide, uninformed remark.


50 posted on 05/28/2006 6:40:53 PM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana
"So far all I see is a guy that wrote an article bringing attention to his own actions. Sounds a bit self serving to me."

What is snide about that? He wrote an article telling the world of his own action. That's fine but as with any politician it is a self serving action.

51 posted on 05/28/2006 6:42:57 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: sheana

Sheana, thanks for the info but please don't waste your time responding to flame baiters...
if flame baiters were ignored, flame wars wouldn't break out. LOL


52 posted on 05/28/2006 6:45:41 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Texasforever

Okay I will give you some leeway on the "snide" part, but I stick by uninformed. And, trying to argue a point while being uninformed about the subject is sheer stupidity in my opinion.


53 posted on 05/28/2006 6:46:20 PM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana
but I stick by uninformed.

Well I may be uninformed because the article didn't mention his fellow boycotters. I wonder why?

54 posted on 05/28/2006 6:47:48 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: kellynla

I usually don't Kelly, but I absolutely can't stand pure ignorance. ;)


55 posted on 05/28/2006 6:48:28 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Texasforever

that just makes this brave senator a real man with a backbone. I am amazed that such a thing happens in politics.


56 posted on 05/28/2006 7:03:33 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: television is just wrong
that just makes this brave senator a real man with a backbone.

LOL. Yeah I guess.

57 posted on 05/28/2006 7:04:21 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: ClaireSolt
"One of the richest communities in the world can't even fix its own fence."

Now wait a minute here... This "fence" is NOT a "community fence," it is a national/federal fence and THE prime directive of a federal government is to secure it's national border, period!

Instead, we have a Repellican President and a Repellican controlled Senate who want to ignore the most representative branch of government most directly from THE PEOPLE, and you imply the local San Diego residents have some kind of "sickness?"

You've not only got a lot of nerve... You are entirely wrong!!!

58 posted on 05/28/2006 8:19:11 PM PDT by SierraWasp (DEAL? OR NO DEAL? (2006)Arnold? Or NO Arnold? (2008)Gore? Or NO Gore??? NO DEAL!!! (open the case!))
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To: Texasforever
"I made snide remarks"

SNIDELY WHIPLASH! Where have you been? We've just missed you so much since the days of childrens TV cartoons!!!

Why you on here pokin sticks at DUDLEY DO-RIGHT???

59 posted on 05/28/2006 8:40:41 PM PDT by SierraWasp (DEAL? OR NO DEAL? (2006)Arnold? Or NO Arnold? (2008)Gore? Or NO Gore??? NO DEAL!!! (open the case!))
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To: SierraWasp
Why you on here pokin sticks at DUDLEY DO-RIGHT???

I hate his red uniform.

60 posted on 05/28/2006 8:41:43 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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