Skip to comments.Principled Immigration
Posted on 05/31/2006 5:44:11 AM PDT by SuziQ
Not for the first time, the world finds itself in an age of great movements of peoples. And once again, the United States is confronted with the challenge of absorbing large numbers of newcomers. There are approximately 200 million migrants and refugees worldwide, triple the number estimated by the U.N. only 17 years ago. In the United States alone, about a million new immigrants have entered every year since 1990, bringing the total immigrant population to more than 35 million, the largest number in the nation's history. Though Americans take justifiable pride in our history as a "nation of immigrants," the challenges are more complex than those the nation previously surmounted. For sending and receiving countries alike, this is a time of exceptional stress--and yet, a moment that offers opportunities as well...
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The WSJ is a broken record on illegal immigration. This time the track is "We-recognize-the-concerns-you have-but-please---for-little-Billy's-sake---open-the-borders-now."
Why didn't it surprise me to see Harvard Law Professor next to the writer's credentials?
She's also very Catholic, so that tempers her position on immigration.
Tis true. She's also extremely pro-life, and you KNOW that has to rankle most professors at Hahvahd Law.
There was nothing in the piece that said that. Her point is that we NEED immigrants, so let's be smart on the policy we put in place. She also pointed out the responsibilities on BOTH the part of the US and on the part of those who would want to move here.
Let's take a look at the BIG PICTURE here?
Aren't we ALL?..on this Great Big Globe of Green, really ALL
on this Great Big World we all share in??
What is going to happen 300 years from now when the majority of people (experts in various fields) will be living in MANY various Nations during a Year's Time??
Does THAT mean That Those people will be able to SHARE & GET all "BENIFITS" from the Nations they happen to be in at on that TIME???...at least with the ELITISTS???
Gee!! Having a ONE WORLD GOV'T! would SUUURREE Simplify everything!! Wouldn't it!!!!
(Just kidding....But LOOK for the ANTI-CHRIST to come along now--to step forward to LEAD the Republican and Conservative Party BACK to where people want it to be !!!! And THEN!! when in Office-- Pull an " EXERCIST" on us?? and go off to MARRY HILLARY CLINTON!! THUS making her FIRST LADY!! so she can rule with her Evil plans!!as has been Lucifers designs since the dawn of mankind!!--of course--this is AFTER Bill is out of the way- by having a "Nasty Accident" of being eaten alive by a pack of starving weasles that travel around in Chappaque!!hahahaha!! )
First they told me again and again, and again, that I must not have more than 2.3 children if I were to be a responsible citizen of the world.
(When those who created the first social-security systems chose 65 as the age of eligibility, they were counting on the fact that relatively few people would live beyond that age to become burdens on the state.)
They devised a plan to take a good percentage of MY money, and hoped against hope, that I wouldn't live long enough to collect any of the money they stole, while doling out what they feel is appropriate.
"the retirement of the baby-boom generation will put unprecedented strains on the federal government
Then, if I DO LIVE, I am considered a "burden on the state" and a "strain" on the all knowing, revered federal government.
WSJ advocates open borders and cheap labor.
Screw the middle class, cheap labor means profit for tax-cheating corporations.
I once spilt PURPLE Fruit juice over the Brand new "WHITE" living room carpet--and what I SAID to my Mom & Dad to get out of a Beating I DESERVED! ( House RULES were NO DRINKING of ANY Soda/Juices/Stainable items in the Living room until after ONE YEAR of SHOWING OFF NEW CARPET!!!)!
Was,"...well look NOW folks!!--
....IF WE SPILL A GALLON M-O-R-E OF JUICE AND SPREAD IT AROUND--THEN THE WHOLE CARPET WILL LOOK PURPLE AND NO-ONE WILL HAVE EVEN KNOWN IT WAS W-H-I-T-E BEFORE!!!
Instead of taking the BLAME for my lack of Responsibilities in dealing with the Running of OUR HOUSE--I Tried to WEASLE out of it!!
Weasle OUT of it like ALL of ELECTED REPS are trying to do NOW!!
Well.."WE"(?) spilt some ILLEGALS here in America's Front Lawn!!...Let's just kid-of SPREAD them AROUND!!--cause when we make them ALL American-Citizens----( Like WE in the Senate really CARE if that happens!! hahaha)----------after a While--NO-ONE will have ever remembered they didn't all get here ILLEGALLY!! and everyone will forget that WE ALL SCREWED UP while being in charge of running this Great Nation!!...A Nation where we have the RIGHT to hide $100,000 in Our Freezers if We wish too!!( Of course--that refers to "US" and NOT "you" everyday, citizens...
---A Problem HAS OCCURED!!FIND OUT WHY and WHO is to BLAME and then FIRE them!!
---Take care Of the PROBLEM: BUILD THE WALL!!
---And then VOTE OUT THOSE who are NOT> following "OUR" Wishes when it comes to running OUR COUNTRY!!
Is this so hard??
Why? We can make our own new citizens.
We won't have to give them English as a second language.
We won't have to worry that they will serve as a fifth column, unlike immigrants from Muslim countries (if we raise them correctly).
We won't be stealing the best and brightest from countries that need these people's talents. Besides, we have our own bright minds.
We shouldn't import new people just to support an unsustainable social welfare system.
And maintaining high rates of population growth makes us vulnerable. China, for example, has to import a majority of their food to feed their huge population. They are suffering from severe environmental impacts because of that same population. We've seen the impacts of being oil dependent-it's stupid to add food dependence to the list.
This whole "we need immigrants" idea is a fallacy that has yet to be properly challenged.
There was nothing in the piece that said that. Her point is that we NEED immigrants,
Go to the third paragraph from the bottom and you will find the open borders arguments you refuse to see, namely that economically strong nations have an obligation to accomodate immigration flows.
Overall, this author is conceding a lot of ground to immigration critics about the breakdown of assimilation in the United States and the impact of mass immigration, but only speaks in generalities about how to fix it and she insists that the flow keep coming in. That attitude is what makes the bolded comment accurate.
And how do you propose to do that? Would you FORCE every family to have at least 4 children so that there would be at least two kids to pay for the Social Security of each parent?
Dr. Glendon's point is that we are NOT replacing ourselves. It's a function of an affluent society that families desire to limit the number of kids they have so as to increase their affluence. As a result, everyone moves up in economic levels, with the lowest levels being those who are in the welfare structure, and who either can't, or just simply won't work.
There is such a thing as jobs that Americans won't do, even though many won't admit it. How many young men in the ghettos or in small poor towns in Appalachia or the Midwest really want to do the kind of work that the immigrants are doing, such as gardening, landscaping, menial construction work, etc.? Employers all over the country are going begging for employees for jobs like this, but most young American men and women feel that this work is 'beneath' them. Just recall the furor from many about 'hamburger flipping jobs'. At least those are indoor, out of the weather jobs.
A case in point is the situation on the Gulf Coast and in New Orleans. Apparently there were no Americans clamoring for those destruction and re-construction jobs. Jesse Jackson came away from Houston with an empty bus when he tried to recruit black men and women to come back to New Orleans to help re-build 'their' city. Contractors have had to hire Mexicans who have come here to work. I have no idea whether these companies are checking their paperwork, but I can tell you this. These folks are being paid well for what they do. There are groups of young men who are content to all live together in crowded conditions so as to reduce their costs and increase the amount of money they will take back home with them to their families.
If there HAD been Americans who wanted to do that work, and the Mexicans were getting slave wages and beating them out of jobs, I'd be the first to be against that, but it is simply NOT the case.
You can call that 'open borders' if you like, I don't choose to.
We need to eliminate social security. It's a Ponzi scheme at best, and as you can see leads to poor policy decisions based on the need for it to continue. Just like Europe and their Muslim immigrants who were going to "solve' their benefit problems-instead they imported an entire fifth column who want to destroy the society that let them in. Great plan.
I favor private accounts, and maybe a birth benefit payment that can accrue tax free interest over a long period of time. If they would give me back the taxes I've paid in, I'd be more then happy to sign away any future SS benefits.
As far as the Gulf Coast reconstruction, I read on FR about an American crew that was SENT HOME after the cheaper illegals showed up.
We are at replacement level right now, excluding the impacts of immigration. The fact that native blacks wouldn't take the NO jobs points more to the failure of the welfare state (including items such as social security) then the inability of Americans to do those jobs. I bet if they didn't get government handouts, they'd be doing those jobs asap.
You no work, you no eat is a great motivator.
I am tired of pressing 1 for English.
Even he (or she?) wouldn't go that far! (lol)
That is the biggest MYTH in this whole mess. More of an excuse.
The problem is that the employers and employees, et al are so burdened by government taxes and regulations that the employers can't pay better wages and employees can't live on low wages. But the net result of this whole mess is illegals paying little into the system, taking MUCH more from it and sending anything they make back to Mexico instead of into the USA ecomony. All illegally.
Do you know of many young men, ages 18-25 who truly want to work as gardeners, landscapers, and construction gophers? Yes, there are some, but any contractor will tell you that it is TOUGH to find workers these days willing to put in the hours and do a good job while they're there.