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U.S. Military Denies New Abuse Allegations at Ishaqi (Marines Exonerated from Killings)
abcnews ^ | June 2, 2006 | JONATHAN KARL

Posted on 06/02/2006 12:43:57 PM PDT by demlosers

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To: concretebob

Terrorists are not civilians!

They are volunteer inlistees in satan's army of evil.

They wear civilian garb to hide among the innocent.

Like so many jack-asses in elephant drag.


81 posted on 06/03/2006 11:55:09 AM PDT by DonnerT (Government perpetuates political predation!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I can't believe the White House is so media-driven. Every time this BS comes out, they commission a blue-ribbon presidential commission, essentially convict them then and there, and promise that heads will roll. So much for handling matters in-house and at the lowest appropriate level.

I can't believe you posted such nonsense without a sarcasm tag.

82 posted on 06/03/2006 1:31:42 PM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: jveritas

I guess enough time has past for people and the vicious media to have forgotten all about those stolen and duplicated US and UK uniforms and they can now be put to use by the terrorists to smear our warriors.

Personally, I think the blame can be put on the powers that be that are making our troops fight a PC war. War is no place for PC. Anyone who thinks you can run a war by the rules in a rule book like you can a football game is just fooling themselves especially against an enemy who wants to wipe everyone not of the Muslim faith off the face of the earth, and an enemy who doesn't wear the uniform of any nation, and is cowardly enough to hide behind women and small children.


83 posted on 06/03/2006 2:20:33 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION, IT INCLUDES TERRORIST SLEEPER CELLS!!)
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To: AmeriBrit

Sure. Why blame those responsible when you can just blame President Bush and Sec. Rumsfeld? Original!


84 posted on 06/03/2006 2:52:07 PM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Cinnamon
The allegations at Ishaqi are different the the more publicized allegations at Haditha.
85 posted on 06/03/2006 3:05:44 PM PDT by Prodn2000
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To: demlosers

But I would say it's stress, fear, isolation and, in some cases, they're just upset. They see their buddies getting blown up on occasion, and they could snap."

I would call it war.


86 posted on 06/03/2006 9:13:11 PM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: Rennes Templar

It simply goes back to the statement by Pres. Bush at the beginning of the Iraq War, (slightly modified): You're either for freedom and the road to it or you're against it.
It's nearly impossible to sit on the fence although some Repubs manage it. We know what side Democrats and liberals are on. They want us to lose the war with many soldiers killed. Perhaps, they hope Saddam will return to power so they can mock our efforts. They are lacking in commonsense and the spirit of freedom, I tell you. And their only loyalty is to themselves.


87 posted on 06/04/2006 3:23:45 AM PDT by dimmer-rats stealvotes (Catching onto the FOX Fonies)
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To: demlosers

"Insurgents in Haditha executed 19 Shiite fishermen and National Guardsmen in a sports stadium."


Our Marines did not kill these people.

The terrorists did.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005321.htm


88 posted on 06/04/2006 7:43:30 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Prodn2000
[quote]The allegations at Ishaqi are different the the more publicized allegations at Haditha.[/quote]

I dissagree, the allegations seem to be generated by the same accusation machine. I will never believe the marines are guilty in Haditha with what I know now.

My faith is not blind it is based on credible information http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jun2006/20060603_5320.html

89 posted on 06/04/2006 10:46:59 AM PDT by KTM rider ( Support Our Troops Donate to Irey)
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To: george76

""Insurgents in Haditha executed 19 Shiite fishermen and National Guardsmen in a sports stadium."


Our Marines did not kill these people.

The terrorists did."

That's a different incident to the one currently being investigated in relation to the US Marines. The story you refer to occured in April 2005. The incident involving the marines took place in November.


90 posted on 06/04/2006 11:11:22 PM PDT by Canard
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To: Canard

Thanks.


91 posted on 06/05/2006 6:38:36 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: angcat

"It doesn't matter if they are innocent, the damage is done.


Yawn. Only if your a mental midget..."

Yawn.. MY ASS! Wake up! We should take this more seriously and we really have to fight it. Its called propaganda and we are losing that aspect of the war big time and thats exactly what I'm talking about. Its the enemy planting seeds in the MSM which in effect damage the troops moral, public perception and support for the war. Same was done in Vietnam and terrorists regularly try this tactic, this time is worked.

You and I dont believe this crap obviously, but that far from "no one." Im talking about public opinion in which the media targets, the regular citizens who dont read past the headlines like we do. They are not mental midgets but people who depend on the MSM for their news, then the polls, then more new stories.


92 posted on 06/05/2006 1:57:08 PM PDT by AmericanYankee
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
<,i>It's called "get off your fat a$$, get out of your office, get down to where your troops are supposedly doing their jobs, and find out what's going on." One of the first warning signs of a unit going to hell is when the senior leadership is closeted away in their offices--the troops start thinking that their leaders don't care, and pretty soon the troops don't care, and then they start doing things they're not supposed to be doing.

Of course what you say is true, but any commander is familiar with the following: Q: How's it going? A: Great, Sir! Q: What's going on? A: Just making the world safe for democracy, Sir!

Q: What's the biggest problem you have? A: The men like to work too hard, Sir! It's hell getting them to take any time off.

Commander: Bullsh!t Sergeant, I want to know what's going on around here!

93 posted on 06/05/2006 2:03:15 PM PDT by ichabod1 (The Glory Hath Gone Out Of Israel)
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To: ichabod1

By getting out of the office and circulating around, the CO increases the likelihood that the troops are doing what they're supposed to be doing, because they WILL straighten up a bit more than "normal" when the CO is on the prowl.


94 posted on 06/05/2006 2:05:23 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: AmericanYankee

I work with liberals and they did suprise me and say "we are at war"regarding the story. I was surprised; I am not worried about the people that depend on the MSM. Anyone with brains will feel the same way WAR is WAR. This will pass and we will be on to the next MSM scandal.


95 posted on 06/06/2006 5:20:28 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !")
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

I'm not military, but we used to call the situation where the CO (Partner) would come by once in a while a "fly-by", or a "swoop & poop." I'm sure the military has similar terms, if indeed they didn't invent those.

We have a director where I work now that absolutely prowls the halls and tries to hear what people are saying when they don't know he's around. It's not pleasant.


96 posted on 06/06/2006 12:29:34 PM PDT by ichabod1 (The Glory Hath Gone Out Of Israel)
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To: demlosers

I believe that this is yet another item in their(The Terrorists)"Bag of Tricks"!They understand the BIAS of MSM in this country(not to mention W.Europe)and so they are "PANDERING" to same!!They show absolutely NO respect for human life so why wouldn't they murder their own and then blame it on us?????????


97 posted on 06/06/2006 12:36:10 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: Mo1

Apparently,they(Senior Officers)are meant to be CLAIRVOYANT?


98 posted on 06/06/2006 12:38:38 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: twigs

YES!Two different towns.


99 posted on 06/06/2006 12:39:32 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: xzins

Of course!They(Lib MSM)are attempting to create a pattern of BRUTALITY!!!Funny thing,when CNN was in Iraq(prior to the war),Saddam was allowed to do whatever he wanted to his own people with their tacit approval!!!Their excuse for this(CNN)was they didn't want to get thrown out of the country!!!!It's plain to see that their"Reporting"from Iraq(prior to the invasion)was merely to sell time to their sponsors!!!!!!The"NEWS"has now reverted to merely"ENTERTAINMENT"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


100 posted on 06/06/2006 12:45:17 PM PDT by bandleader
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