A Talk at Lunch That Shifted the Stance on Iran

NYT ^ | 6/4/06 | HELENE COOPER and DAVID E. SANGER

[jveritas]

President Bush does not consider the Mexican bus boy climbing the wall (in the picture ypou posted) as dangerous to our national security as the islamic terrorist regime in Iran having a nuclear weapon. Please do not turn this thread into an illegal immigration one.

[Cobra64]

If Iran does not stop in six months or so building their nuclear weapon program, they will be bombed by us back to the seventh century where they like to be. Iran will not have the nuclear bomb as long as GW Bush is President.

What's the name of your doctor? I want the same meds you're on. LOL

[EternalVigilance]

A Talk at Lunch That Shifted the Stance on Iran

What'd she say? "Hey, we've already negotiated with Abu Mazen, the financier of the '72 Munich Massacre. What's a few mad mullahs next to that?"

[Sabramerican]

The United States blinks.

North Korea Redux? But more dangerous with catastrophic consequences. I doubt we can blame Clinton this time?

Bush is being played. By Iran. By the Europeans. By Rice(State).

If anyone reading this believes that any type of negotiations will stop Iran's nuclear program- respond.

If anyone believes France and Russia, and others, will not try to block us even after an attempt at negotiations fail- respond.

If you believe negotiations will amount to nothing and at the dead end the International community will still be against us pursing any serious action against Iran- you're wiser then the President.

[OldFriend]

I like that the ball is now in Iran's court.

Seemingly no one on this forum is appeasable on any front at all.

[Founding Father]

Please do not turn this thread into an illegal immigration one.

Like so many others you have missed the point completely. That "mexican bus boy" you refer to could easily be (and maybe has been) an islamic terrorist.

It is a joke (and dishonors those who serve and defend) to fight terrorists around the world (which I agree needs to be done) and leave your borders undefended thus allowing those same terrorists to walk right in.

An illegal immigration issue, no sir, this is a security issue.

[bnelson44]

But the thread is about Iran

[OKIEDOC]

So True but ROFLMAO.

[brannon]

the president knows that negotiations will not work on iran. the point of negotiations is to prove to the rest of the world how crazy this guy is. that way we can get some europeans to go in with us and take a few bullets for us.

[indianrightwinger]

2007 won't be a good year for the Iranian mullahs.

Mark it....Bush will NOT leave the Presidency without blocking Iran's path to nuclear weapons.

[Khepri]

Don't fall for this NYTimes smear piece..."Oh whoa is us"...please...

How about an Israeli take on what's going on?

http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1170

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"The US secretary of state said the US was willing to join European allies in direct talks with Iran - provided Iran abandoned its uranium enrichment program. Tehran predictably dismissed the offer as propaganda and presenting no “new and rational solution” to Iran’s nuclear case. The enrichment program would go on, declared Iran’s foreign minister Manouchehr Mottaki.

Rice had her answers ready for that response. Anticipating an Iranian brush-off, the US has already begun implementing its own package of sanctions. As Rice put it, “We’re prepared to go either way.”

She also made it clear that the United States would not “swear off ever using military action.”

The two parties are therefore closer to a collision course – first financial and, further down the road, military - than to dialogue. "

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This is nothing more than the Times try to color the administration.

[Excellence]

"Mr. Bush left open the option of scuttling the entire idea until early Wednesday morning, three senior officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were describing internal debates in the White House."

Another leak. Does anyone besides me have a problem with this?

[NinoFan]

Instead of total war, I really wish we could find a way to get rid of the hate-mongers who are instilling fear in the Iranian people. That would take care of 99% of the problem right there. The people of Iran like a lot of Western things, but they're very nationalistic and obtaining the bomb and being (in their minds) on an equal footing militarily with the rest of the world is important to them because their "religous" leaders and others have convinced them that obtaining the bomb is the only way for them to protect themselves from the "evil" West.

[Valin]

Just relax both of you

Thank you. This is something that needs to be said more often around here.

[FreedomNeocon]

Typical people like him... its "his topic or no topic"

I'm really starting to LOATHE a few nicks on here.

[FreedomNeocon]

They can't stand any thread not being about immigration.

If its on WoT, they turn it into immigration. If its a spending bill, they turn it into immigration. If its a Judaical debate, they turn it into immigration. If its a media piece, they turn it into immigration. If its a live thread, they turn it into immigration.

Is getting REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLY old.

[jveritas]

I do not think they are learning. FR moderators have banned so many of them including their LEADER and they still do not get it.