Skip to comments.Editorial: Kerry takes up the Swift Boat charges Raised Eyebrow Alert)
Posted on 06/03/2006 1:36:30 PM PDT by MplsSteve
Most of the controversies from the wild 2004 presidential campaign have long been forgotten. But one is coming back, the New York Times reported this week, and we're glad it is: Sen. John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic nominee for president, is joining an effort to debunk the many attacks on his service in Vietnam more than two decades earlier.
Kerry is a holder of three purple hearts, a bronze star and a silver star, all awarded in a four-month stint aboard Navy swift boats in Vietnam's Mekong delta.
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I guess this doesn't surprise me. The editorial board of the Red Star was among one of the more rabid defenders of Kerry's war record and the attacks inflicted upon him during the campaign.
Opinions or comments - anyone?
Ol'rice butt can't let it rest.
Hey Feverishly Leftist Star "editors", Have your "hero" sign Form 180 and release ALL his military records to the public. ALL of them, not just the air brushed few he has made public to date
Ketchup Boy should admit that he brought it on himself with the "band of brothers" and "reporting for duty" stunts, among many others, and then just shut the hell up about it.
By the Red Star running that editorial, it of course opens the door for some nice Letters To The Editor....a la Johnnie's post #3.
"No candidate should have to endure what Kerry got."
No country should have to endure that shitheel!
John Kerry vs. The Tarbaby....redeaux
It is nice to know that the Swiftboats can illicit such a reaction from the gigolo, however. Anyone remember how his voice shook when he referred to those guys during the 2004 election (snicker)?
Did Kerry serve in VN? Wow, I didn't know that.
Well there were people at his hearing, including paper pushers to administer his dishonorable discharge. Things have a way of getting out, the older people get... Someday they may sing and write books about it.
Is he going to release his diary also? The one written in 1972 and used in his book. I remember reading that when John Edwards was selected as his running mate, Edwards was told to steer clear of the diary, because in it, Kerry had stated he met Vietnamese "terrorists" in Paris -- terrorists not being a good description to use in the 2004 election.
Kerry will be meat for the barbeque in 2008 as well.
In his own words, "Bring it on."
As for me, I'm just another Vietnam vet "reporting for duty" on seeking the truth behind this incredible phony.
And he even managed to fit in a trip to Cambodia during Christmas.
The only difference between John Kerry and his more recent 'clone' Jesse Macbeth is that Kerry made it out of 'basic training' and actually spent a little time in a war zone.
Beyond that, they are both America haters who lie about their own military exploits, and lie about widespread atrocities by American troops.
They fake documents in an attempt to fool the ignorant about their so-called wounds and heroism; and verbally attack those that point out the truth about them.
Oh, I guess I gotta give Kerry credit for being more erudite and not stuttering, as well as being more successful at fooling more people for a much longer time.
Kerry is the best the leftwing can come up with for their "war hero."
Kerry and Murtha.
The leftwingers' Audie Murphy and Sgt. York.
Reprising a campaign tactic that had worked well against Sen. John McCain in 2000 and Sen. Max Cleland in 2002, White House political strategist Karl Rove went straight at Kerry's most significant strength: his war record.
Karl Rove did that? What an evil genius! /sarc
Cambodia too, wasn't it?
There is the Link, below my letter.
To the Editors:
If Senator Kerry wants to end the whispering about his Military service, he can simply sign Form 180. Form 180 gives the Military legal authority to release all the Senator's Military records to the Public. So far the Senator has refused to do this. What the Senator is claiming as his "Military Records" are merely carefully selected PR pieces, not his full record. IF the Star Tribune Editors are seriously interested in the truth, they should be urging the Senator to sign form 180.
>>all awarded in a four-month stint
I just bought a download of Unfit for Command and put it on my mp3 player to listen to (figured I'd "read" it sooner or later). One hour into the 6 hr file...really good and I do believe O'Neill and Corsi, not Kerry. Four month stint? Yes,
but one month was training! Kerry enlisted in Navy RESERVE,
not Navy; he tried to get an assignment where he'd be safe
and once things started to get hairy, oh look, I got a scratch. Can I get me a Purple Heart here?
When the Swift Boat charges came out, Kerry could have defended himself against them and made a strong case, if
he were indeed right. He did not, either because a) he
knew deep down people would see through him, or b)he figured the MSM would ignore them or denounce the Swifties as
crackpots (which a lot of the MSM did indeed do).
There was even a book out called Unfit Commander: Texans for the Truth Take On Bush, with a similar-looking cover. But Publishers Weekly said of that tome: "However, readers may balk at wading through old government documents, some of them indecipherable, that dont offer new revelations. Ultimately, Smith lacks a smoking gun and, coming on the heels of the ONeill/Corsi book, this effort carries the taint of election year oneupmanship." Which it was;
ignore Kerry, folks, and focus on that eeeeeeeeeeevil W.
Needless to say there are moonbat recommendations for THAT one: "i don't like bush at all, and i don't like the way he makes texans look; even though he isn't really a texan, he was born in conneticut. do yourself a favor, and buy this book."
And another: "During the Vietnam War, John F. Kerry bravely performed his patriotic duty and risked his life in combat. During the same war, George Bush took the cowardly route and went AWOL from the Air National Guard for nearly a year. Glenn W. Smith's eye opening UNFIT COMMANDER provides full documented evidence, including over 250 pages of service records, that exposes the whole, shocking truth about Dumbya's shameful military "career". Smith provides a richly detailed introduction and commentary, plus an extensive appendix, that puts the sordid tale into proper perspective. Smith even addresses the recent CBS memo "controversy" and how Republicans used the media to promote that ridiculous sham of a news story in order to divert the populace from the truth about the president's cowardly past. UNFIT COMMANDER is a well researched and important historical document. Any remaining undecided voters out there should read it ASAP."
Classic! Nice letter! I hope it gets published!
No kidding. I'm surprised he never mentioned it.
Notice the editorial said that there are "researchers pouring over naval records"....
I wonder if these are records that the Swifties had any access to?
If Tim Russert had any integrity, he would be all over this.
Kerry promised him he would sign the form 180, never did and Russert has yet to follow up.
But they have no problem attacking the swifties.
Why does Kerry keep bringing this up? The fact is, he was one of the more notable Vietnam War protestors. Most of the Democrat politicians of his generation were Vietnam War protestors, including the Clintons. He'd be better off giving it a rest.
Steve ---I'd like your comment on this:
I have wondered why leftwing Minnesota elected a wrestler as governor
and then elected Coleman over Mondale.
I was told the following:
There is a lot of unhappiness in the area because people from the deepest slums of Chicago were moved into Mineapolis--St.Paul and as a result the city(ies) was destroyed as compared to what it once was.
Anything to this?
If Tim Russert had any integrity
Kerry is a busy boy....
I read that he is planning on introducing a bill next week, calling for all of our troops to be out of Iraq by the end of this year.
I am sure he has the Marines in Haditha convicted already as well, and will USE it like Murtha is, to justify his cut and run, scaredy cat legislation.
Apparently he won 3 Purple Hearts, too. He's quite reticent about it, so not surprising that you didn't know.
John Kerry=horse's a**.
Well, I'm not from Minnesota, but I'm sure I can answer at least the second half of your question.
They elected Coleman because of the Dimocrats' absolutely disgraceful behavior at the memorial service for Senator Paul Wellstone, the incumbent liberal who now-Senator Coleman was facing.
It was a big, televised event, and the asswipes in the crowd (egged on by Senator Wellstone's children, among others) turned the whole thing into a huge stick-it-to-the-Republicans campaign rally. Activities included booing Senator Lott (then the Majority Leader of the Senate) and a couple of other Republicans out of the building.
The next morning, Governor Ventura called the Dims disgusting on national TV, and apparently the voters agreed.
It was a huge deal. With the sentimental feelings over Wellstone (undeserved, but heh...), a generally well-regarded Walter Mondale ready to step into the wings... well, the Dims should have had that race in a walk (no disrespect to Senator Coleman). But, hell no, they just HAD to make asses of themselves. Thank goodness for that.
Bingo! That's the only way to end it, John Effing Kerry. But he's probably had some insiders destroy the good stuff.
I think he served in Iraq (both) and Afghanistan, too. And Granada. Somalia! Bosnia! Where else? Oh, yeah. He was in both towers on 911.
LOL...You're right. I heard he volunteered for Korea too but his mom wouldn't sign for him because he was only seven.
In my opinion the Wellstone "funeral," with all the lefty HATE presented
was the START of the now raging aggressive, shove-the lefty-crap-in-your-face stance by the leftwing and their "news" media .
They were too dumb to notice it didn't work
and think if they do more and more of the same they will get their desired goal.
The fact is he made it a campaign issue, not those who questioned it. It's important because it goes to his integrity. And his claim most assuredly is false.
I was in SOG during that time. All cross border operations were under the command and control of the US Army MACV-SOG. No boats were utilized after the early 1960s for insertions into Cambodia. If he went into Cambodia, he would have done so as part of an operation conducted by Command and Control South (CCS). He would have required a top secret clearance, his weapons and boat would have had all traces of identification removed, and he would have had orders from CCS through MACV-SOG to the Naval Commander in the AO, and down to Kerry. He would have known what his mission was and where he was going. I don't believe him, and hope he tries to prove it.
"I think he served in Iraq (both) and Afghanistan, too. And Granada. Somalia! Bosnia! Where else? Oh, yeah. He was in both towers on 911."
Was that before or after he invented the internet ?
This is the kind of person who has been handed out much more than he deserved to get out of life.
Traitor John is nothing more than a worthless floater in the Democrat septic tank.
Good on ya.
He has had 2 years for his spin machine staff to come up with a rebuttal. They needed at least two years to play with the wording, so I'm surprised that anyone questions the time-delay.
Nobody seems to care about the delay needed for a SecNavy (John Layman) citation which popped 15 years after the facts.
Write him off Hes a lying loser. The best thing he could do just now - is to make a movie. His movie could be about wild-eyed, drug-crazed marines cutting off the ears of little girls, or breaking into houses in the dead of night to terrorize kids and children and young people and under-age kids and toddlers and pre-schoolers and babies and little guys. Woo! See what 2 years can do for you if think ahead?
I'm taking bets.
IF, it turn out that the Marines are guilty of what has been alleged, you can bet that he will be front and center (along with Murtha and FatBoy Teddy) at the news conference that WILL BE held and I am certain, the traiterous Snake, will compare "it" with something about Vietnam.
As an aside, anyone with an ounce of common sense, would realize that when the Swift Boat Vets and others, began to question/challenge him about his service, IF, his record was as he said it was--and thus the release thereof, would automatically have exonerated him; made fools of the SBV; put a kibosh on anyone and everyone who dared to criticize his Vietnam service and maybe, even his post-Vietnam conduct, which is what most of us took issue with--WHY, would he not done so, expeditiously and with maximum exposure? DUH!
Methinks he doth protest too much!!!
Swifties will kick his ass all over again.
Bring IT ON!
Regarding John Kerry and his continuing bitterness toward the Swiftboat Vets - since he chose to make his military background the cornerstone of his otherwise rudderless 2004 campaign, he should have made sure his sheets were clean.
The Star should follow up, and do some research as to why his refusal to make a full release of his military - and discharge! - records continues to this day....hint: there may be a Pulitzer in it for you.
Yeppers...you are right about his belated attempt to prove the Swifties wrong...he was too easily cowed by them during 2004, to have anything concrete to prove them wrong.