England afraid to fly its own flag

YNet ^ | June 4, 2006 | Modi Kreitman

[WOSG]

"Patron saint of Scotland is Saint Andrew: White saltaire on blue background. Patron saint of England is Saint George; red cross on white background Patron Saint of Ireland is Saint Patrick; red saltaire on white background. Wales isn't included in the union jack."

You are right. Thanks for the final authoritative correction.

[Zionist Conspirator]

I am aware of William Blake's authorship, but the fact remains that the song implies that England and the English have displaced the literal Jerusalem (G-d forbid!), a forerunner of "Anglo-Israelism" which is a forerunner of the "identity movement." Furthermore, I'm not a chr*stian and couldn't sing a chr*stian hymn in good conscience, but if the English want a hymn as their national anthem that's their business. I just wish it weren't one with Anglo-Israel implications.

I've never watched much Monty Python, being a prude and all.

[nygoose]

I predict that someday the majority of Americans will be afraid to leave their homes. A combination of fear of gangs and fear of Federal, State and Local governments will make Americans prefer to stay inside.

[WOSG]

I think you are misinterpreting the lyrics. I always understood it as a metaphor, that being Jerusalem used as
metaphor for the holy kingdom of God that would be planted on England's shores through the efforts of Christian evangelism (and/or social reform, given the 'dark satanic mills' and 'chariots of fire' reference) ... Why else would they ask if Jesus (lamb of God) walked in England? It's absurd question except as a metaphor.

I am unaware of what you mean by identity movement, so forgive me if others have picked up a different meaning, i'm just saying that wouldnt be the meaning the author intended.

Also, it's hardly a nationalist song (like "Rule Brittania!" is), but I guess it got some patriotic cachet from the "England's green and pleasant land" reference.

[Zionist Conspirator]

My apologies if I have misinterpreted Blake's words. He was a strange character anyway, so no telling what he really meant.

I am a Noachide, which means I reject chr*stianity and accept the Jewish concept of G-d, so I cannot identify the Kingdom of G-d with chr*stianity. Maybe that's coloring my perception.

But mostly I'm a literalist, which means that "Jerusalem" means "Jerusalem," just as "Israel" means "the Jewish people."

[finnman69]

just sad

This is what the BBC, pro-muslims grounps and the Labour party have wrought.

[Canard]

You might consider reading the whole thread. The OP is wildly inaccurate.