One of many cool machines on my site and in my collection, if you're into that sort of thing! :)
Posted on 06/07/2006 3:58:41 PM PDT by aculeus
FOR decades, researchers have been baffled by the intricate bronze mechanism of wheels and dials created 80 years before the birth of Christ.
The "Antikythera Mechanism" was discovered damaged and fragmented on the wreck of a cargo ship off the tiny Greek island of Antikythera in 1900. Advert for The Scotsman Digital Archive
Now, a joint British-Greek research team has found a hidden ancient Greek inscription on the device, which it thinks could unlock the mystery.
The team believes the Antikythera Mechanism may be the world's oldest computer, used by the Greeks to predict the motion of the planets.
The researchers say the device indicates a technical sophistication that would not be replicated for millennia and may also be based on principles of a heliocentric, or sun-centred, universe - a view of the cosmos that was not accepted by astronomers until the Renaissance.
The Greek and British scientists used three-dimensional X-ray technology to make visible inscriptions that have gone unseen for 2,000 years.
Mike Edmunds, an astrophysicist at Cardiff University, who is heading the British team, said: "The real question is, 'What was the device actually for?' Was it a used to predict calendars? Was it simply a teaching tool? The new text we have discovered should help answer these questions".
The mechanism contains over 30 bronze wheels and dials and was probably operated by hand, Mr Edmunds said. The most prominent appraisal of the mechanism's purpose was put forward in 2002 by Michael Wright, the curator of mechanical engineering at the Science Museum in London, who said it was used to track the movements of all the celestial bodies known to the Greeks: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.
Mr Wright's theory is that the device was created in an academy founded by the Stoic philosopher Poseidonios on the Greek island of Rhodes. The writings of the 1st-century BC orator and philosopher Cicero - himself a former student of Poseidonios - cite a device with similarities to the mechanism.
Xenophon Moussas, a researcher at Athens University, said the newly discovered text seems to confirm that the mechanism was used to track planetary bodies. The researchers are looking at whether the device placed the sun, not the earth, at the centre of the solar system.
He said: "It is a puzzle concerning astronomical and mathematical knowledge in antiquity. The mechanism could rewrite certain chapters in this area."
Yanis Bitsakis, also of Athens University, added: "The challenge is to place this device into a scientific context, as it comes almost out of nowhere ... and flies in the face of established theory that considers the ancient Greeks were lacking in applied technical knowledge."
Mr Edmunds said the researchers were prepared for an onslaught of conspiracy theories. "There's no indication that the device is anything we wouldn't expect of the Greeks or something that would require an extra-terrestrial explanation.
"I think it is a great testament to the sophistication of the Greeks and how far they advanced before the jackboot of the Romans came through." A timeshift in the history of astronomy
IF THE Antikythera Mechanism turns out to have been a machine for showing the movements of the planets around the sun, it would greatly alter our understanding of the history of astronomy.
Although at least one Greek thinker posited a heliocentric view of the solar system, the dominant view at the time was Aristotle's - that the Earth was the centre of the universe and that everything rotated around it in perfect, circular orbits.
It was not until 1,400 years later that Copernicus and Galileo conclusively proved the heliocentric view, which greatly altered man's understanding of his importance and position in the universe.
Their work was met with stern resistance, as the Church believed the Aristotlean view - which put humanity at the centre of the cosmos - was integral to man's direct relation to God.
Researchers are now searching for clues that the Antikythera Mechanism might have been governed by heliocentric principles. If they are successful, it would suggest the heliocentric world-view was more accepted by the Greeks than thought.
This article: http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=838112006
Last updated: 07-Jun-06 16:43 BST
It's a fascinating piece of hardware. Thanks for the ping.
Did The Ancient Greeks Make A Computer?
An Article | 1977 | Lionel Casson
Posted on 11/01/2003 12:21:03 PM EST by Holly_P
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The Antikythera Mechanism: Physical and Intellectual Salvage from the 1st Century B.C.
USNA Eleventh Naval History Symposium | 1995 | Rob S. Rice
Posted on 08/14/2004 6:01:21 PM EDT by SunkenCiv
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And what exactly suggests that the Greeks were aware of the heliocentric model?
If the "established theory" (whatever!) is that the Greeks weren't great at applied science, this isn't the only thing flying in the face of that theory. Greek mariners were "lacking in applied technical knowledge?" LOL.
BAD MEMORY Ping
Were technologies like falling weights unknown?
My first was a Digital Group (26 k ram) Z-80 system with cassette tape software loading/storage back in '76. I built it from a kit. 64 chips per 8 k board. Lot of soldering. Word processore was WOPROC.
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All those words, and not even a clue as to what the "hidden inscriptions" say?
Semper Fi
"That Aristarchus of Samos actually put forward the heliocentric hypothesis is made certain by the evidence of no less a person than Archimedes, who was a younger contemporary of Aristarchus" - Heath in _Greek Astronomy_ ( Dover )
The book includes Archimedes statement to this effect from The Sand Reckoner. Aristarchus lived circa 310-230 B.C.
One of my professors way back used the example of the ancient Greek steam engine as an argument against slavery. Since people could be forced to work, there was no interest in labor-saving devices, thus setting back the advancement of mankind, what...2,000 years or so.
I was referring to this statement: "The researchers say the device indicates a technical sophistication that would not be replicated for millennia and may also be based on principles of a heliocentric, or sun-centred, universe."
What about the device indicates it may have been based on "principles of [heliocentrism]"?
I found translation of the inscription.
"Drink More Ovalteen"
PS
"Ann Coulter Rocks"
Aah, TRSDOS, how many granules were on your floppies?
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Nice site. I have it book marked.
Were Greeks 1400 years ahead of their time?
Platos dialectic is the basis of Western Civilization.
Heres a bit from "The Republic"
I was still using my Trash 80 Model 2 in 1989. Tandy had stopped giving tech support and somehow considered me the expert on the daisey wheel printer, and referred three support calls to me!
Oh well.
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