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Nicholas Berg's Dad's Reaction To Zarqawi Death (Unreal)
MSNBC | 6-8-2006

Posted on 06/08/2006 9:27:13 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache

Nick Berg's Dad was just on MSNBC almost in tears in front of his home saying that Bush is on the same level of Zarqawi and that they both are murderers. Saying his thoughts and prayers are with Zarqawi's family as they now have lost a loved one like his family did.

No mention of the fact that Zarqawi killed his own son.

Said there is no right to take a human life on this Earth...went on about an illegal war...Bush being a mass killer too...etc...blah blah.

By the way..for those playing the home version of this game of insanity at home...Berg's Dad is running for Congress in Delaware as part of the Green Party.


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To: BobL
He'll figure out reality, some day.
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I beg to differ. At his age the delusion is permanent and unshakable. The only cure will be his death.
And unfortunately brave men are risking their lives in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere so that he can live unimpeded in his delusional bubble.
Of course they also protect me and my life, and you and your life, as well as their own families, so I guess we just have to accept that Berg benefits from sacrifices made by others, when he does not believe in the sacrifices themselves and is manifestly unworthy of either the sacrifices, or the benefits.
51 posted on 06/08/2006 12:42:11 PM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Cheburashka

Well said.


52 posted on 06/08/2006 12:47:48 PM PDT by BobL
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To: My Favorite Headache

Mr. Berg needs to look deep within and ask this question : " How responsible am I for my sons' death?" The man reeks of guilt.


53 posted on 06/08/2006 12:52:24 PM PDT by MAWG (In the shadows, on permanent ambush duty.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Too bad he didn't bother to read the Old Covenant.


54 posted on 06/08/2006 2:01:41 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: My Favorite Headache

I heard him on the radio. He also said that he was sorry that he will never have a chance to "sit down with" Zarqawi and "get to understand each other". He is actually angry at Bush because "he'll never get that chance now". This is beyond delusional.


55 posted on 06/08/2006 4:28:25 PM PDT by StockAyatollah
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To: My Favorite Headache

Nick Berg on Free Republic (Freepers) Enemies List (continued)
by FINTAN DUNNE - BREAKFORNEWS.COM


(See: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1092851/posts)

It began: "Here you are, FReepers. Here is the enemy."

The list had been copied from publicly available endorsements of a call to action for an imminent anniversary antiwar protest on 20th March, 2004. The protest was being organized under the banner of the A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism).

Among those listed as having endorsed the call to action was this entry: "Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc."

That's Nick Berg's father, Michael who acts as business manager for his son in their family radio communications firm, Prometheus Methods Tower Service.

Both father and son cared deeply about Iraq. But they were on opposite sides of opinion on the occupation -- though you would never know that from reading the New York Times.

Michael was ardently antiwar, whereas his Bush-supporting son was in favor of the war to the extent that he had already visited Iraq seeking to help with rebuilding efforts.

Just seven days after "Michael Berg" and "Prometheus Methods Tower Service" had come up on that Iraq war 'enemies' list, his son Nick Berg returned to Iraq under the business name of Prometheus Methods Tower Service.

The scene was set for tragically mistaken suspicions --which were to end in the horrifying death of an honorable and blameless American. A humanitarian who had traveled several times to Third World countries --such as Ghana, to teach villagers construction techniques.

The web traffic to the Free Republic forum - and its forum membership
include significant numbers of serving and former US military.

Many members take their online activism very seriously. Some delight in causing mischief for those they think are identified as "enemies."

Within minutes of getting their hands on the antiwar names, one was boasting of having contacted the military about active service personnel who were on the list:

"I forwarded the list to the ISC (the command you listed), the district officer... the district legal office and the investigative services office."

The response: "The poor moron is not going to know what hit him. Is this being mean-spirited? NO! Someone against our military does not belong in the military!"

Another was already investigating a member of the Coast Guard on the list: "I took a look at his yahoo and he has a site which is not real fond of the war on drugs OR the war on terrorism.... That particular coastie needs some serious trouble to come his way...."

" I spoke on the phone to a senior chief yesterday in Virginia.... [who] could not believe what the guy was doing. He was both astounded and angry. I think [he] is in for some big, big trouble."

If that list could end up on an Internet forum, then it could just as readily end up with the FBI, and eventually in the hands of those in Iraq who are keen to track or harass antiwar activists entering the country.

Alternatively, the enthusiasts on Free Republic have the contacts and the clear determination to have ensured the list quickly got to the right places.

At the time the list was posted, Nick Berg had just come back from an Iraq trip lasting from late December to Feb. 1. He had reported no problems whatsoever with Iraqi police during that visit.

Yet, within two weeks of the list being posted, Nick Berg --back in Iraq on his final fatal trip-- was reportedly detained in Mosul at an Iraqi police checkpoint. The official explanation is that authorities thought his identification might have been forged and were checking his authenticity.

But a more likely reason is that by then authorities in Iraq had discovered that a 'Berg' of Prometheus Methods Tower Service was in the country, and issued a detention instruction to Iraqi police because they misidentified Nick Berg as an antiwar activist entering Iraq to work for the 'enemy'.

That could explain why he was held incommunicado for 13 days, without recourse to a lawyer; why US officialdom was singularly unheeding of his mother's pleas; why the FBI visited his family to question them; why it took a US court order secured by the family to pressure his release.

And why he was cruelly murdered soon after that release, like many others around the world who suffer such a fate at the hands of state-condoned death squads --sometimes just hours after their release from official detention.

That's the final sordid twist in this grisly story.

If the world was an uncomplicated place, then this tale would end with the mistaken arrest of Nick Berg.

We could finish by noting that Nick's father is reportedly accusing the US government of contributing to his son's death. Unable to find work in Iraq, Nick Berg's last trip was set to be a short one. He planned to return to the US on the 30th of March.

Michael Berg charges that his son's detention until 5th April, was a violation of civil rights which fatally delayed his exit from Iraq and instead left him dangerously stranded in the middle of the explosion of violence which erupted in early April, 2004.

But there are much graver aspects to all this. Another chilling perspective is best summarized by the wry cynicism of Michael Rivero at WhatReallyHappened.com

In a commentary on the beheading of Nick Berg, Rivero writes: "How wonderfully lucky for Bush and the NeoCons that such a great piece of pro-war distract-from-the-torture-scandal event happens at this particular moment."

Rivero's world-weary realism strikes a chord with his popular website's visitors, but will undoubtedly shock unseasoned observers. However he is far from alone in questioning the official line. Others have noted the too-white hands and military at-ease stance of the hooded captors in the video.

The killing has certainly eased the international discomfiture of the US.

The problem with assumptions that al-Queda is responsible for Berg's beheading, is that Musab al-Zarqawi is mentioned in a caption on the videotape of the killing.

Al-Zarqawi came to our attention in January, 2004 when the US military claimed to have intercepted a letter of his written to the al-Queda leadership. But the content of the letter read like a US military propaganda statement on the situation in Iraq.

In the letter al-Zarqawi wrote of Iraqis coming to welcome the US presence in Iraq, and about how al-Queda was loosing ground in it's war against the US.

In February, 2004 an article "The Zarqawi Gambit," by Greg Weiher on Counterpunch was deeply skeptical of the letter:

"..if you were Karl Rove, you couldn't design a better scenario to validate the administration's slant on the war than this. That's a good reason to maintain a healthy skepticism. In fact, there are a number of good reasons to take this story with a grain of salt (maybe a three- or four-pounder)."

The US has been keen to paint the opposition to the occupation as composed of many foreign fighters tied to al-Queda. The letter was clearly fabricated for propaganda purposes, with al-Zarqawi as it's new al-Queda star.

But if al-Zarqawi is merely a flimsy propaganda creation, then what confidence can we have in the official line that al-Zarqawi and al-Queda murdered Berg.

The only plausible alternative is a covert, black operation orchestrated as part of the seedier arm of US foreign policy - which generally only come to light when candid photographs, for example, reach the public domain.

But that's an explanation which many would reject on the grounds that no force allied to the US - no matter how black its operations - would have members so callous as to even countenance the cold-blooded beheading of a US citizen.

However, there is a mindset amplified by war passions and found among the gung-ho brutes who beat Iraqis to death; found among the thuggish mercenary death squads who roam to slay at will; and found among the cold-blooded sociopaths who have planted bombs for political strategic reasons.

It's war. And war begets a wartime mindset.

Nick Berg's detention indicates that authorities regarded him an an antiwar activist and possibly also as an 'enemy.'

That original post on Free Republic contains a telling indication of a mindset, which in the heat of war could well kill an American it regards as the "enemy."

A mindset which has now reacted to Michael Berg's loss of his son like this: "I wonder what he thinks about his Muslim buddies now... "

A mindset displayed by the search keywords used on Free Republic to categorize the list of antiwar supporters. The keywords are:

APPEASENIKS; DAMNCOMMIES; ENEMYWITHIN; LEFTISTS; PEACENIKS; RATS; SCUMBAGS; TRAITORS; TREASONOUSSCUM; USEFULIDIOTS; WARONTERROR

Copyright © 2004 BreakForNews.com
Attribute for Fair Use. Page URL:
http://www.BreakForNews.com/NickBergEnemiesList.htm

Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List
http://www.BreakForNews.com/NickBergEnemiesList.htm
by Fintan Dunne, Editor
BreakForNews.com EXCLUSIVE, Research by Kathy McMahon
12th May, 2004 10amET


56 posted on 06/08/2006 4:58:01 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Perfect example of what Ann Coulter talked about yesterday.


57 posted on 06/08/2006 4:58:47 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Perfect example of what Ann Coulter talked about yesterday.


58 posted on 06/08/2006 4:58:54 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: TexasRepublic

As everyone was ready to go off the deep end about Coulter's remarks, in comes Michael Berg to prove her right.


59 posted on 06/08/2006 5:02:17 PM PDT by AmishDude (Everybody loves AmishDude)
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To: xpertskir

It works for Cindy Sheehan, why not for him too?


60 posted on 06/09/2006 4:15:27 PM PDT by buckeye27
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To: phillyfanatic
"No mention of the fact that Zarqawi killed his own son."
61 posted on 06/09/2006 4:16:46 PM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: My Favorite Headache
Michael Berg's first allegiance is to the PARTY line. Berg deserves no respect nor sympathy for his psychotic perceptions of blame and the cause and effect of his son's regrettable death in Iraq by Muslim terrorists. It is easier to accept the irrational Drama Queens Sheehan and the Jersey Four Widows as icons for bathos. Michael Berg is the PARTY's willing fool. It is easier for Berg to carry forth the PARTY's propaganda mantra than to think like an intelligent man seeking the truth.
62 posted on 06/09/2006 5:02:29 PM PDT by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: My Favorite Headache
daddy berg and most liberals seems to suffer from some bizarre form of Stockholm syndrome where they immediately subjugate themselves and country beneath even the most oppressive scum and governments ever spawned, something in their Psyche needs to release some hidden internal misguided misconstrued guilt complex methinks, i really dont get it . . basically they call evil good and good evil.

one can only wonder what kind of home life the son had growing up, likely lived in some hyper reality created by flower child daddy and never learned to read simple danger cues obvious to everyone else.

what interests me in this story is that the son also had allowed one terrorist to use his laptop in oklahoma (at OU) and was interviewed by slugworth (michael moore) before he left for iraq - we dont know half the story here - i doubt it s whats been portrayed in the press and likley involved moores movie and explains whacko daddys motivations and transfer of hate for what happened beyond just his liberal philosophy. . ?
63 posted on 06/09/2006 9:02:51 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: captmar-vell

..."what interests me in this story is that the son also had allowed one terrorist to use his laptop in oklahoma (at OU) and was interviewed by slugworth (michael moore) before he left for iraq - we dont know half the story here - i doubt it s whats been portrayed in the press and likley involved moores movie and explains whacko daddys motivations and transfer of hate for what happened beyond just his liberal philosophy. . ?

I've been wondering very much of the same thing. Nick (and his father Michael) Berg's connection with Michael Moore is suspicious. The other "half of the story" is known by others, probably members of the MEDIA as well. Truthseekers will have to pursue it. Nick Berg, a private citizen, choose to go to Iraq and he had a purpose.


64 posted on 06/10/2006 1:13:37 PM PDT by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: DustyMoment

"I'm sorry for Nick Berg's dad. His son died an unimagineably disturbing and horrible death. However, Dad has joined in the pack mentality..."

I believe the Bergs already had joined the partisan "pack mentality" - irrational and hateful groupthink.


65 posted on 06/10/2006 1:17:13 PM PDT by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: purpleland
I believe the Bergs already had joined the partisan "pack mentality" - irrational and hateful groupthink.

You're probably right. Rush made an interesting comment the other day of which I was unaware. Nick was in Iraq at his dad's request to try and generate new business for his dad. IOW, Dad sent his kid there and is directly responsible for him being in a position to be kidnapped and killed. Now, to shift the responsibility from himself for what happened (because to do otherwise would mean he had to acknowledge his own responsibility for Nick's death), he tries to make Bush guilty. But all the crockodile tears and false claims against Bush won't wash Nick's blood from his hands.
66 posted on 06/11/2006 10:20:29 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment

I believe the Bergs already had joined the partisan "pack mentality" - irrational and hateful groupthink.



You're probably right. Rush made an interesting comment the other day of which I was unaware. Nick was in Iraq at his dad's request to try and generate new business for his dad. IOW, Dad sent his kid there and is directly responsible for him being in a position to be kidnapped and killed. Now, to shift the responsibility from himself for what happened (because to do otherwise would mean he had to acknowledge his own responsibility for Nick's death), he tries to make Bush guilty. But all the crockodile tears and false claims against Bush won't wash Nick's blood from his hands.



Bush is every liberal/leftist lunatics' scapegoat. It's sickening...


67 posted on 06/11/2006 6:43:48 PM PDT by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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