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HPV Vaccine—Another Deception of the Culture of Death
Human Life International ^ | 6/16/2006 | Fr. Thomas J. Euteneuer

Posted on 06/16/2006 9:13:55 AM PDT by Pyro7480

HPV Vaccine—Another Deception of the Culture of Death

The big news recently is that the FDA has just approved a new vaccine supposedly to inoculate women against cervical cancer. Predictably, the media and health professionals are touting this as the greatest thing since the Salk vaccine, but they are also engaging in a propaganda campaign aimed at distorting the public’s perception of it. I for one will stand against what I consider this newest marriage of the culture of death with junk science, and I believe we all should. In the next few weeks I intend to examine a number of aspects of this Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) vaccine for the benefit of parents who may some day be coerced into getting their kids vaccinated with it.

Let me start by pointing out a few basic elements of this vaccine and its service as a tool of the culture of death. First of all, did you ever wonder why all of a sudden we need a vaccine for just one sexually transmitted disease? Just to give you a little perspective: in the nineteen sixties, before the advent of the birth control pill and other forms of abortion-causing drugs, there were only three sexually transmitted diseases which at that time were known as venereal diseases, a name derived from Venus, the pagan goddess of sexual promiscuity. Because of the exponential increase in illicit sexual activity in the past four decades, the number of distinct sexually transmitted diseases has risen to over thirty, not to mention the multiple strains of the distinct diseases. The Human Papilloma Virus, for example, is just one sexually transmitted disease, but it has over 100 different strains! Only a small number of these strains actually lead to cancer and most of its victims don’t know they have it and cure themselves over time.

Now, to put it into even clearer perspective: the much-touted HPV vaccine treats only two strains of HPV and two strains of genital warts. This is a tour-de-force against HPV isn’t it?

The most wretched hypocrisy of the promoters of this vaccine, however, is that, rather than calling it a vaccine against a couple strains of one of the dozens of sexually transmitted diseases, they are calling it a vaccine against cervical cancer. Well, it will certainly protect some women from cervical cancer in the future but that’s not the point. The point is that there are overwhelming numbers of diseases, strains and even cancers that this vaccine does not protect from, all of which are gotten by the very same sexual act. Thinking that this vaccine gives blanket protection against cervical cancer (which of course is how it’s perceived because that is how it’s being promoted) is like believing that thirty people jumping out of the same airplane will all be protected because one of them is wearing a parachute.

This HPV vaccine, my friends, is a classic case of the culture of death playing fast and loose with people’s lives. They use junk science to hook our terribly un-reflective culture on a promise that will benefit only a miniscule portion of the population, and then the false perception of security surrounding their newest ruse hooks everyone else into behaviors and lifestyles that perpetuate the damage and decay our decency.

Don’t fall for it because pretty soon they will be forcing you—and your kids—to drink their potions to the dregs.


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To: Antoninus
Monogamy inside of marriage, abstinence outside. If 95% of people practiced this "lifestyle choice", STDs would practically disappear.

I agree. STD'd would dissappear, and it would probably take decades for all carriers of the virus to be eliminated through natural attrition. IN THE MEANTIME, I completely understand the desires of parents who wish to take medical precautions to protect their daughters. Can you not appreciate that as well?
281 posted on 06/16/2006 1:24:00 PM PDT by Nathan Jr.
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To: Nathan Jr.
Can you not appreciate that as well?

I have no problem with someone voluntarily taking the vaccine. Have I said otherwise?
282 posted on 06/16/2006 1:25:33 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals -- regardless of party.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Thanks for the clarification. :-)


283 posted on 06/16/2006 1:32:41 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: webstersII

Do a search on post-vaccination encephalitis.

Here's one from the CDC.

http://www.bt.cdc.gov/training/smallpoxvaccine/reactions/encephalitis_path.html

The mechanisms for this form of encephalitis are unknown. Various hypotheses have been advanced but the one that is deemed most likely is that it represents an autoimmune process following vaccination. Midbrain, cerebral and medullary lesions have been observed, and in 1/5th of cases myelitis is predominant. Increases in CSF pressure, CSF lymphocytosis, and increases in CSF protein content all represent non-specific findings.

Approximately 25% of all cases were fatal and 25% of all survivors have had some residual neurologic defect, ranging from a convulsive disorder to profound neurologic deficit.




284 posted on 06/16/2006 1:34:34 PM PDT by Politicalmom (If fences don't work, why is there a fence around the White House?)
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To: balch3

So... is it somehow thwarting God's will to cure cancer? Or don't God fearing people die of HPV related cancer?


285 posted on 06/16/2006 1:34:44 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (It is not the oath that makes us believe the man, but the man the oath.- Aeschylus)
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To: Antoninus
I got the impression from earlier posts that you did not see the vaccine as a valid preventative. You stated that "There are other ways to prevent HPV transmission besides this vaccine". And then followed up by suggesting societal change as the answer.

I agree that it is deporable that our culture has collapsed to the point where we need to innoculate our children from social diseases that were at one time uncommon. Makes one sad.
287 posted on 06/16/2006 1:46:58 PM PDT by Nathan Jr.
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To: Javelina

LOL - Well, if you have a "feeling"....
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that was the best you could come up with?


:)


288 posted on 06/16/2006 2:06:15 PM PDT by justche (Let me make something perfectly clear. I never explain myself - Mary Poppins)
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To: Javelina

I know... The ignorance here is frightening!


289 posted on 06/16/2006 2:35:03 PM PDT by Alama
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To: justche

You have no faith in medicine. I had to go in to get a prescription for a cold sore the other day. The doctor told me to be sure not to kiss anyone because it could be passed that way. That is almost common knowledge and he still took the time to say it. I would imagine if someone were getting a HPV vaccine he would go ahead and explain the ins and outs of it.


290 posted on 06/16/2006 4:54:53 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: palmer

Your link doesn't show any deaths?

You may have missed this: “shown at autopsy in a child dying after four months of the illness.”

Also 90% (if that's what it is) is pathetically low. Much more an argument to cancel this whole program than continue.

I didn't have time earlier to research exact figures, so I understated it. Now that I have time, this article states “the vaccine prevented 99 percent of HPV 16 or 18-related high-grade cervical pre-cancers.” But even 90% would be well worth it - why would you cancel a program that was 90% effective?

291 posted on 06/16/2006 9:11:37 PM PDT by retMD
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To: retMD

Because 90% gives sex a substantial risk, probably worse than distributing condoms to people with AIDS. Abstinance, much derided by some, is 100% effective. Treatment for the cancer, although painful and possible deleterious is basically 100% at the early stages. The cancer is caused by other agents. The virus won't spread at 100% regardless of vaccine (I have no clue about the numbers other than it isn't 100%). The vaccine is not very justifiable except on a voluntary basis even at 100%, certainly not at 90.


292 posted on 06/16/2006 9:22:05 PM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: palmer

Because 90% gives sex a substantial risk, probably worse than distributing condoms to people with AIDS. Abstinance, much derided by some, is 100% effective.

You seem to be assuming several things I haven't said. Abstinence is a great solution, but many people won't stick to it. Those who aren't abstinent may then go on to infect their spouse. I'm not willing to write all those people off.

Treatment for the cancer, although painful and possible deleterious is basically 100% at the early stages.

Yes, but the key is getting women checked for it in the early stages. Many women don't know they're infected, and may not go in for check-ups. Again, I'm not willing to write those women off, either. Additionally, prevention is better than having to have a procedure done, and some procedures can damage fertility.

The cancer is caused by other agents. The virus won't spread at 100% regardless of vaccine (I have no clue about the numbers other than it isn't 100%). The vaccine is not very justifiable except on a voluntary basis even at 100%, certainly not at 90.

I haven't even mentioned voluntary vs. involuntary, I was taking issue with your statement that the program ought to be cancelled entirely.

293 posted on 06/16/2006 9:35:31 PM PDT by retMD
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To: Pyro7480; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...

Since most vaccines come from fetal stem cell lines I wonder if this one too (HPV) is from a dead baby?


294 posted on 06/16/2006 9:51:40 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: retMD
Yes, but the key is getting women checked for it in the early stages. Many women don't know they're infected, and may not go in for check-ups. Again, I'm not willing to write those women off, either. Additionally, prevention is better than having to have a procedure done, and some procedures can damage fertility.

You may well be writing them off. More women may not go in for checkups because they assume the vaccine is protecting them.

Even though HPV is considered a cause of cervical cancer, only one out of 1,000 women with HPV develops invasive cervical cancer ( http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/sti/fact-HPV-virus.xml)

It seems to me you are killing a virus that doesn't do anything except create pre-cancer or other benign cancers. Will those women assume they are protected from cancer and stop having pap smears? Then it seems you are writing them off.

295 posted on 06/16/2006 9:52:43 PM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: luckystarmom

My daughter was born 2 months prematurely, three years ago, and was given a Synagis shot every month (at $1200 - $2400 a pop!) for the first six months. Was your daughter ever given anything to protect her against RSV and she caught it anyway or are the shots relatively new?


296 posted on 06/16/2006 9:54:46 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: Coleus
Don't know which vaccines you are referring to, but there are other media to grow vaccines in: http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/Area_of_Interest/Life_Science/Cell_Culture/Product_Lines/Vaccine_Production.html
297 posted on 06/16/2006 9:57:24 PM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: Coleus

I wouldn't be surprised, Coleus. After reading some of the comments on this thread, my general contempt of libertarianism has been renewed. It and it proponents can be useful when fighting the Left, but when it comes to the issues at that matter the most, they're no better than the Left.


298 posted on 06/16/2006 10:00:36 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you wish to go to extremes, let it be in... patience, humility, & charity." -St. Philip Neri)
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To: palmer
Don't know which vaccines you are referring to, but there are other media to grow vaccines in: http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/Area_of_Interest/Life_Science/Cell_Culture/Product_Lines/Vaccine_Production.html
>>>>>

I was referring to these vaccines, thanks for asking.

See related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:
Vatican Condemns Vaccines Made with Tissue Obtained by Abortion
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jul/05071801.html
Vatican Official Clarifies Stand On Vaccines From Fetal Tissue
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jul/05072604.html
Colorado Right to Life Calls for Vaccines not Tainted by Abortion
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/oct/05100307.html
Abortion Advocate Recommends Curtailing Religious Freedoms to Avoid "Contagion"
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/may/05051708.html
Vaccination not Compulsory under Canadian Law

ABORTED FETAL CELL LINE PRODUCTS AND ETHICAL ALTERNATIVES
Updated:  

Disease

Vaccine Name

Manufacturer

Cell Line (Fetal)

Ethical Version

Manufacturer

Cell Line (Non-Fetal)

Chickenpox

Varivax

Merck & Co.

WI-38, MRC-5

None

N/A

N/A

Hepatitis A

 

Vaqta

Havrix

Merck & Co
GSK

MRC-5

MRC-5

Aimmungen
Not available in US

Kaketsuken

(Japan & Europe)

Vero (monkey)

Hepatitis A & B

Twinrix

GSK

MRC-5

Engerix Hep-B Only

Recombivax Hep-B Only

GSK

Merck

Yeast

Yeast

Measles, Mumps, Rubella

MMR II

Merck & Co

RA273, WI-38

None

N/A

N/A

Measles-Rubella

MR VAX

Merck & Co.

RA273, WI-38

Attenuvax – Measles

Merck

Chick embryo

Mumps-Rubella

Biavax II

Merck & Co.

RA273, WI-38

Mumpsvax – Mumps

Merck

Chick embryo

Rubella

Meruvax II

Merck & Co.

RA273, WI-38

Takahashi

Not available in US

Kitasato Institute

(Japan & Europe)

Rabbit

MMR + Chickenpox

ProQuad

Merck & Co.

RA273, WI-38, MRC-5

 

None

 

N/A

 

N/A

Polio

Poliovax

Sanofi Pasteur

MRC-5

IPOL

Sanofi Pasteur

Vero (monkey)

Rabies

Imovax

Sanofi Pasteur

MRC-5

RabAvert

Chiron

Chick embryo

Rheumatoid/OsteoArthritis

Enbrel

Immunex

WI-26 VA4

Synvisc

Genzyme Bio.

None

Sepsis

Xigris

Eli Lilly

HEK-293

Ask your doctor

N/A

N/A

Shingles

Zostavax

Merck & Co.

WI-38, MRC-5

None

N/A

N/A

Under Development Ebola

TBA

Crucell/NIH

PER C6

None

N/A

N/A

Under Development :Flu,

Avian Flu

TBA

MedImmune

Vaxin, Sanofi

PER C6,

HEK-293

FluVirin, Flu Shield

Flu Zone, Flu Blok

Chiron, Wyeth

Sanofi ,Protein Sci

Chick embryo

Caterpillar

New: HIV

TBA

Merck

PER C6

None

N/A

N/A

New: Smallpox

Acambis 1000

Acambis

MRC-5

ACAM2000

MVA3000

Acambis/Baxter

Vero (monkey)

Chick embryo

 *TBA:  To Be Announced – Vaccine is under development; unnamed at present. 

 NOTE:  ALL CURRENT FLU VACCINES USE ETHICAL CELL LINES.

Physician Order Line:                                   

Merck (Measles, Mumps) 800-422-9675                       GSK: (Hepatitis-B) 866-475-8222       

Sanofi Pasteur: (Polio) 800-822-3463                             Chiron:(Rabies) 800 244-7668 (PST)                Wyeth:  (Flu) 800 666-7248 

Note:  Immune-Globulin shots will provide temporary immunity (3-5 months) for Hepatitis-A and Rubella.  IGIM is a series of antibodies taken from donor blood designed to boost the immune system against specific diseases.  No aborted fetal cell lines are used.

 NOTE:  IF THE VACCINE YOU ARE QUESTIONING IS NOT LISTED HERE, IT DOES NOT USE ABORTED FETAL CELL LINES.


299 posted on 06/16/2006 10:08:56 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: palmer

It seems to me you are killing a virus that doesn't do anything except create pre-cancer or other benign cancers.

There are no benign cancers, cancer is by definition malignant.

I just can't buy the argument that one should forgo an efficacious vaccine out of fear that women who are vaccinated won't go to the doctor for check ups. As well worry that people with tetanus immunizations won't go to the doctor for wound care (and many don't) and therefore we shouldn't give tetanus vaccinations.

300 posted on 06/16/2006 10:21:22 PM PDT by retMD
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