If that were so, then these young Catholics surely must have been mislead.
Posted on 06/16/2006 9:13:55 AM PDT by Pyro7480
The shots are relatively new. My daughters almost died 10 years ago.
Be thankful your daughter got the shots!
Well, what about single adults who have sex before they are married with more than one person. Now, I'm not talking about slutty behavior. I'm talking about someone who is dating someone for a year or two and they have sex during that time.
Most adults don't wait until they are married to have sex, especially men.
Now if two people get married and just the man has slept around, he could have picked up the virus and pass it on to his virginal spouse.
Don't forget people grow up. There's a lot of stupid things I did in my 20s that I would not do in my 40s. I'd like to give women a chance to grow up a bit.
I know more women that have gotten cervical cancer than I know people that have AIDs.
I am bitter about religious obscurantism which wants to provoke needless death...
I agree...
Preventing an illness repairs the world... You are comical in your denials...
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You seem to believe that teens live in a vacuum and listen to their parents...
Grow up and open your eyes!
As I said above, not one person on here is advocating that people who got HPV and subsequently got cervical cancer should be left untreated and die.
Are vaccines part of the 'Culture of Death'?
This is the stuff that gives christians a bad name....
Again
1) "If the vaccine was derived from research that used embryonic stem-cells, then it was derived immorally...."
This is YOUR morality...Not mine... For Jews, this isn't immoral at all...
"The second issue, at least in the case of this HPV vaccine, is the argument that people can worry about one less thing during promiscuous sex, ignoring the fact that even with eradicating the veneral disease risk, promiscuous sex is inherently risky, for other reasons as well."
And here is the crux of your non-argument... You have a problem with sex, so you prefer women dying because they had sex...
You are the immoral one!!!
I've said it twice, both in #318, and #329, and I'll say it again: not one person on here is advocating that people who got HPV and subsequently got cervical cancer should be left untreated and die.
Oh, and I know some Jews who would have a problem who embryonic stem-cell research, so you don't speak for them all. Using your own reasoning, you're trying to "impose" your own morality on others as well! ;-)
If that were so, then these young Catholics surely must have been mislead.
I think you're bitter in general, not real sure what your real agenda is at FR, but I doubt it's conservative in nature. I wont respond any further because you are just ranting and raving at this point.
You bring up good points. The difference is that adults have the opportunity to be fairly informed about the vaccine before they have it. There's no reason for 8 and 9 year old girls to have this as mandatory for school.
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd-30/NCSA/RNotes/2005/809970.pdf
I agree with people's right to choose to wear or not to wear a seatbelt, but when a young 20-something with no health insurance, refuses to wear a seatbelt and is rendered a vegetable by a head injury suffered in an accident, my tax dollars then go to support him/her for the rest of their life.
Unfortunately, the real world of "Personal Responsibility" that you write of no longer exists. IMHO, you can be free of big government only if you waive your right for any type of assistance from government. I doubt many free spirits are willing to sign that waiver.
Their problem and beliefs... definitely NOT mine... Catholics have their beliefs... Jews have theirs...
http://www.stnews.org/Research-2350.htm
"In the United States, the Orthodox, Conservative and Reform denominations of Judaism have all endorsed the research. Leading Orthodox rabbis in Israel and the United States say embryonic stem cell research is acceptable both because the research can potentially save lives and because traditional Jewish sources consider embryos less than 40 days old to be unformed beings.
Tractate Niddah of the Talmud refers to an embryo that is a few days old as maya b’alma or “like a sack of water,” said Rabbi Daniel Sperber, president of the Institute for Advanced Torah Studies at Bar-Ilan, where Goldstein is an associate professor. The embryos that supply the stem cells are less than a week old, and are mostly left over from in vitro fertilization. Israeli regulations, based on the 2001 recommendations of a bioethics advisory committee, allow the use of surplus IVF embryos in research if the sperm and egg donors give their informed consent.
“I am an Orthodox Jew, and according to Orthodox Judaism, there are no ethical problems with working on the cells at all,” said Goldstein who immigrated from the United States about 20 years ago after obtaining his doctorate at Columbia College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York...."
So what Jews do have a problem with stem cell research? Neither Reform, nor Conservative nor Orthodox... LOL...
I don't think it should be mandatory for school.
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