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Posted on 06/22/2006 7:35:47 AM PDT by drypowder
As I understand it more than one hundred people reported seeing a streaking missile hit the plane.
The vaunted investigatory appartus of the MSM has been strangly silent about this shootdown.
Nothing to see here, move on.
i'M WITH YOU ON THAT!
270 people saw plane shot out of the sky
July 17 marks the 10th anniversary of the destruction of TWA Flight 800, the investigation of which represented the most conspicuous and consequential misdirection of justice in American history. This column is part of an in-depth look at the incident, presenting several compelling reasons why the investigation must be re-opened.
On Long Island's south shore, on a sweet summer eve like that of July 17, 1996, the temperature a perfect 71 degrees, they would all be out watching. They would be watching from their boats, from the beaches, from the decks of their summer rentals.
At 8:30 that evening, a minute before sunset, Lisa Perry enjoyed the view from her elevated deck on Fire Island. Paul Angelides walked through the sliding doors to the deck of his summer rental in Westhampton. Richard Goss and his friends relaxed on the deck of a nearby yacht club.
Also in Westhampton, Mike Wire took a breather from the switch gear room on Beach Lane Bridge, where he had been working, and looked out over the dunes and beach. Joseph Delgado had just completed a few laps at a school track in Westhampton, and he was looking south. National Guard pilots Maj. Fritz Meyer and Capt. Chris Baur likewise looked south as they maneuvered their HH-60 military helicopter in for a landing at Gabreski Field a few miles away. And 22,000 feet overhead, Dwight Brumley, a retired 25-year United States Navy master chief, relaxed on US Air 217 as it headed north to Providence, R.I.
TWA Flight 800, a workhorse 747 wide body, had left the JFK runway at 8:19, made a wide turn to the south, and then turned back east. It ascended slowly to more than 13,000 feet and held there to let Dwight Brumley's plane, US Air 217, pass comfortably overhead. There were 230 people on board.
The evening of July 17 was not as peaceful as it appeared to be. Not nearly so. In Iraq, July 17 just happened to be National Liberation Day, Saddam's evil 4th of July. To celebrate, Saddam had made some of his most serious threats yet against the United States. Iran was restless as well. The White House believed it responsible for the lethal bombing of Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia three weeks earlier that killed 19 American servicemen.
On that fateful eve, just two days before the start of the Atlanta Olympics, the United States military was on its highest state of home-front alert since the Cuban missile crisis.
Shortly before noon, Washington time, on July 17, the Islamic Change Movement sent a fax to Al-Hayah in London, the most prestigious Arabic language newspaper. The warning came one day after the group had taken responsibility for the destruction of Khobar Towers. It was as serious as a truck bomb:
The mujahedeen will give their harshest reply to the threats of the foolish U.S. president. Everybody will be surprised by the magnitude of the reply, the date and time of which will be determined by the mujahedeen. The invaders must be prepared to leave, either dead or alive. Their time is at the morning-dawn. Is not the morning-dawn near?
As the sun was about to rise on the Arabian Peninsula, it was about to set on Long Island. At 8:31, Dwight Brumley put down the book he was reading and glanced out the window of US Air 217. He noticed "what appeared to be some kind of a flare," but he realized quickly that this bright, burning object ascending off the ocean was no flare. "It was definitely moving pretty much parallel to the US Air flight, and it was moving at least as fast, perhaps even faster."
As the flare-like object raced north, bridge worker Mike Wire saw a streak of light rise up from behind a Westhampton house and zigzag south, southeast away from shore at about a 40 degree angle, leaving a white smoke trail behind it.
Richard Goss, upon seeing an ascending object, turned to his friends at the yacht club and said, "Hey, look at the fireworks." Everybody turned to look, and they all watched it climb. "It was bright, very bright," says Goss, "and, you know, that almost bright pink, you know, and orange glow around it, and it traveled up."
Vacationer Lisa Perry, on her Fire Island deck, watched an object shoot up over the dunes. "It was shiny, like a new dime," says Perry. "It looked like a plane without wings. It had no windows. It was as if there was a flame at the back of it, like a Bunsen burner. It was like a silver bullet." The object was heading east, southeast towards the Hamptons.
Engineer Paul Angelides picked up a streaking object now high in the sky. From his angle, it appeared to be a "red phosphorescent object leaving a white smoke trail." He followed the object as it moved out over the ocean in the direction of the horizon.
Goss followed it too. "It seemed to go away in the distance towards the south, and that's when I saw it veer left, which would bring it out east. It was a sharp left."
School principal Joseph Delgado told the FBI he saw an object like "a firework" ascend almost vertically. The object had a "bright white light with a reddish-pink aura surrounding it." The tail, gray in color, "moved in a squiggly pattern." From Delgado's perspective, the object "arced off to the right in a southwesterly direction."
At 8:31, FAA radar operators out of Islip saw an unknown object appear on-screen and head toward Flight 800. At the same moment, FAA radar picked up something else unusual a ship of good size nearly right under Flight 800's airborne position.
The two National Guard pilots in their nearby helicopter now picked up the streaks high in the sky. Said Capt. Chris Baur: "Almost due south, there was a hard white light, like burning pyrotechnics, in level flight. I was trying to figure out what it was. It was the wrong color for flares. It struck an object coming from the right and made it explode." Maj. Fritz Meyer, a winner of the Distinguished Flying Cross for his service over Vietnam, saw the southbound missile clearest. "It was definitely a rocket motor," says Meyer.
Delgado saw TWA Flight 800 "glitter" in the sky and the ascending object move up toward it. He thought at first it was "going to slightly miss" the 747, but it appeared to make "a dramatic correction at the last second." Then Delgado saw a "white puff."
"From my vantage point," says Goss, "there was a direct explosion that followed and then after that there was a second explosion that was off to the east a little farther that was much larger."
Meyer saw a bright white light also. "What I saw explode was definitely ordnance," he said. "The initiating event was a high velocity explosion, not fuel. It was ordnance."
"About two seconds later," claimed Meyer, "lower, I saw one or two yellow explosions, from that the fireball, third. The first two high velocity, the last low-velocity petrochemical explosion."
"Then a moment later there was another explosion and the plane broke jaggedly in the sky," says Lisa Perry. "The nose is continuing to go forward; the left wing is gliding off in its own direction, drifting in an arc gracefully down; the right wing and passenger window are doing the same in their direction out to the right; and the tail with its fireball leaps up and then promptly into the water below. The sounds were a huge BOOM! then another BOOM!"
"You could feel the concussion like a shock wave," reports Mike Wire of the initial blast. Indeed, it shook the bridge on which he was standing in Westhampton, even at 10 miles distance.
"The sounds shook the house," remembers Angelides. "My wife, who was on the bathroom floor drying our son from his bath, felt the floor shaking as she heard the noise, and I heard her cry out, 'What is going on?'"
And then confusion a hellish, horrific confusion. "There seemed to be a lot of chaos out there," says Angelides. Now he, Wire, Perry, Meyer, Baur, Goss, Delgado, and Brumley watched as the plane's fuel tanks exploded, and Flight 800 morphed into what Delgado described as a "firebox" and others described as a "fireball."
"When that airplane blew up, it immediately began falling," adds Maj. Meyer. "It came right out of the sky. From the first moment, it was going down."
Brumley saw the burning debris hit the water and turned to summon a flight attendant. As he did, a passenger in the seat behind him, James Nugent, cried out, "Did you see that too?" Brumley and the others were hardly alone in what they had seen. On that soft summer eve, thousands were watching the sea and the sky. By the FBI's own count, 270 eyewitnesses saw a flaming object ascend towards TWA Flight 800. Scores of those tracked it from the horizon all the way to the doomed airplane. The New York Times would not interview one of them.
To rationalize what the witnesses saw, the FBI and the CIA conspired to create an alternate scenario, the notorious 3,300-foot zoom-climb of the crippled 747. The FBI presented an animation of the same to the world 16 months after the crash. The first article in this series and the next reveal how thoroughly corrupt this literal conspiracy was.
This is a misrepresentation. I don't know how many people reported seeing the explosion in the sky but I do not believe over 100 people reported seeing a "missle" hit TWA Flight 800.
I believe some people believed they saw some sort of streak ascending into the sky, which could be very different then what you have stated.
Most of the MSM, and their hero JFKerry, refer to the downing of Flight #800 as a terror attack.
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1. IF TWA Flight 800 was shot down by a surface-to-air missile, it was not an act of terrorism.
2. IF the downing TWA Flight 800 was an act of terrorism, it was not brought down by a missile.
One thing is for certain . . . The aircraft sure didn't come down the way the FBI and NTSB said it did.
Discovery Channel produced a documentary that was a pretty detailed and convincing recreation of the possible events that would indeed cause the center tank explosion on Flight 800.
I'm all ears if anyone want to discredit that report, because until viewing it, I was convinced that this was clearly an act of terror.
Gorelick's book "Destruction of Evidence".
not only did peole see a missile shooting up to intercept the plane but it was ALSO FILMED AND SHOWN ON TV~!!!
I know because I saw it with my own eyes, and no one will ever convince me otherwise.
How they got it removed from TV so fast (i think it was shown just once) and got everyone to keep quiet about it, I'll never know- but then again this was the days of CNN and they gladly got down on their knees for clintoon.
A friend of mine saw a missile; he was fishing on the beach.
Two National Guard pilots claimed to see a missile from their helicopter. One, a decorated Viet Nam veteran, said the initial explosion was an "ordinace" explosion, which was followed by a fireball from the jet fuel.
Yes, something like 130 people saw a missile.
This is the most interesting aspect of this whole case, the rather orwellian control of the story from the first moment. Its pretty brazen, but it has mostly worked. The official story puts more stock in a cartoon developed by CIA, than it does in 130 eye-witnesses.
You have the head of the investigation announcing the results of the investigation beforehand, and then strict control of the process to assure that it reaches the result that was announced before it began.
This was one of several high-profile examples of cover-up-by-investigation. Its a beautiful thing when executed skillfully.
"It does not make sense that after decades of faithful service, suddenly a center fuel tank on ONLY ONE 747 explodes spontaneously."
My thoughts exactly. Those decades of faithful service of the magnificently successful 747 design represent billions of safe passenger miles.
However, the documentary (mentioned above) featured a detailed review of the plane's maintenance logs which did reveal some unique mishaps which could indeed have combined to cause the spontaneous center tank explosion.
I'd like to see this clip.
If a 747's fuel tank is empty, the flight engineer will position that tank's fuel pump switches to OFF. The center tank was empty, and the flight engineer's panel pulled from the sea had the switches still in the off position.
The wiring on the pumps can't short out if the switch is OFF.
I'm still skeptical but I'm not saying I cannot be persuaded. I need more evidence. I personally don't like the theory of the fuel tank exploding on an aircraft with such a reliable record.
"If a 747's fuel tank is empty, the flight engineer will position that tank's fuel pump switches to OFF. The center tank was empty, and the flight engineer's panel pulled from the sea had the switches still in the off position.
The wiring on the pumps can't short out if the switch is OFF."
I'm sure you are correct. Did you see the documentary I'm referring to and did they address what you've said above to your satisfaction? Or, did they simply ignore that basic fact?
I'm on the fence over the whole incident. In particular, if it was a terrorist attack, why did no one claim responsibility?
I've forgotten the date, but there was a similar crash at the Pittsburgh airport. Some of my technical friends were called in because the damage appeared caused by a SAM.
Thank you for the pictures. We dont see these often enough.
For some *odd* reason, they have been mostly buried.
I always thot James Kalstrum(?) , the lead FBI investigator , was an honest person. Hard to resolve
Read the book, The Downing of TWA Flight 800" by James Sanders.
The fact that the CIA was involved in this investigation at all was a real tip-off for me. The CIA doesn't investigate "normal" airline disasters. Nor does the FBI, for that matter -- at least not to the extent that they were involved in this one.
I distinctly recall driving home right after dark that night and hearing the 1st announcement on WCBS (in NYC, for those that dont know)that TWA Flight 800 had been 'hit by a missle'.
A few minutes later several patrons of a restaurant nearby (with large windows) were interviewed as to what they saw.
They said that they saw a MISSLE hit the plane.
Mass psychosis? I have actually heard the term used to describe what these folks saw that evening.
How do you know someone didn't?
The MSM offices have shredders.
Blozo Clinton was more concerned with a Nobel Peace prize with Hamas so he covered this up and stupid W allows him to get away with it till this day.
The reason is simple: did the investigators find the blast pattern and remains of a MANPAD warhead anywhere on the plane? Given that each type of MANPAD has a distinct warhead detonation pattern (whether it's Stinger, SA-7, SA-18, Blowpipe, etc.), the fact that NONE of these blast patterns--let alone the explosive residue from the warhead itself--was found on the remains of TWA 800 rules out a missile attack.
My adult son and I were watching TV and saw that clip. Once. They also interviewed eyewitnesses........once.There were huge groups of people milling around in shock. Local NY news teams were on the ground quickly but suddenly the story changed. Because of the coverage I saw right after the incident, I have always been convinced Flight 800 was shot down.
OK, I accept that, but it seems to me you are spliting hairs. So your take is one heck of a lot of people saw a streak that went from the ground (ocean) to the plane, then the plance crashed.
If it wasn't a missile, what was it?
Have you read Nelson Demille's book Night Fall? Reading your post about the TV footage reminded me of a part from his book. I know he wrote it as fiction, but it is a good read on this subject.
I saw an investigative report on this and James Kallstrom was a big part of it. He seemed openly honest and genuine. He seemed like he went the extra mile to check into many different explosion theories especially the missile theory. I think he is as frustrated as the rest as to why we still don't definitively what happened.
Actually local NY news outlets had the story right in the first hours after the incident. The home movie of the missile disappeared soon as did the witnesses.
My uncle was the lead night shift mechanic for TWA in 1996. That evening he was off. When I asked him what he thought of the fuel tank theory he said "no way".
My daughter and I were home in less than 10 minutes from the first announcement. We, too, saw that clip, and the folks in shock.
At that time, too, there were (?) hopes for survivors. I remember a lot of shots of stuff in the water, and many, many people on the beach.
They were all over the news telling what they saw. All of them pretty much telling the same story. I always wondered if any of them had any "accidents".
I used to think so too, but not anymore. He was definitely ordered to sell the ridiculous fuel tank explosion theory. Who knows though, since the Clintons were in charge and anyone who has ever crossed them takes dirt naps, maybe he had no choice.
I don't know and you have a point. Supposedly 270 people saw a streak and then an explosion. Scores of people witness something coming from the surface to hit the plane but many more did not see anything come from the surface. I don't know what to make of it. Were there any boats in the area that are unexplained?
If they are covering up what happened, you expect them to say otherwise?!
This is why I am skeptical of the missile theory.
Yeah. It was heartbreaking. People going out in boats looking for survivors. Camera shots of debris everywhere. And local newsies stating openly that it was a missile attack.
If I remember right, didn't the news switch gears and start stating that all these witnesses were at parties and could have been drunk etc?
An egg sized incendiary device dropped into the fuel tank by a fuel loader could explain the lack of evidence. The fuel acted as a solvent that slowly dissolved a barrier in the incediary device. Once dissolved, the device would ignite.