Posted on 06/23/2006 3:04:01 PM PDT by DaveTesla
Why is it that the government always gets an exclusion?
Thank you Congressman Billybob - I trust your interpretation!
You might want to read up on what the Trans Texas Corridor project really is (and not just how some of the anti-toll road groups spin and falsely portray it.) The ROW will be owned by the state and condemned by the state. No route will be taken unless the state approves and deems it in the interests of the state. The private company is only being awarded a construction, operations, and maintenance contract, which can be canceled at any time by TXDOT (subject to a formula for paying back the company's investment in the road that hasn't yet been recouped by toll revenue.) The road is simply an expansion of the existing I-35 corridor, but through rural areas instead of widening I-35 because the former would be cheaper and affect fewer property owners than the latter.
Basically it is just TXDOT contracting out construction, operation, and maintenance of a road to a private firm, while maintaining ownership. They already do that for many aspects of construction, so what's the problem?
The "glass half empty" crowd have noted this doesn't forbid local and state govt from taking property. Last time the President doesn't run local and state governments. So Bush is doing his part. This is good news.
Yep.
This thread has obviously lost its focus. The basic fact is that the pres has signed an executive order which puts on the books law which is intended to protect private property ownership. It is now up to each of us, through our representatives and senators, to improve this law.
Its a major achievement to have this law, with the ability to modify and improve it. Have at it. You can bet that there are hundreds of smart lawyers reaping the benefits of this law already.
Im only glad to know that Bush actually knows he can do Executive Orders.
Nope, Kelo was in essence about the expansion of 'public use' to include takings strictly for 'economic development', and was that constitutional. The ruling was a narrow one that basically said that it wasn't in theory unconstitutional. But part of a court's opinion is often based on determining the will of the people, as expressed through the legislature, the voice of the people via the ballot box. What this EO does is put the administration on record as stating that 'economic development' alone is not a 'public use'. As an elected office, the President is similarly a voice of the people, though it would provide a stronger foundation if Congress was to pass a similar law expressing its intent on how far 'public use' should be defined.
This is not at all toothless, it is rather another tool in the battle taking place on the legal front, giving judges in future cases more ammo to use if they choose to. And as others have noted, there are other ways in which this EO will curtail takings for economic development. It is a multi-faceted approach.
No you won't. It will be built by private money, maintained by private money, and enhanced by private money.
All you'll pay are the tolls, if you use it.
LOL
We are paying by loss of sovereignty. The foreign agents are another degree of separation of the American people from their duly elected representatives.
When a conspiracy theorist runs out of arguments, he always pulls a charged word out of the air.
The charged word on this thread is "sovereignty."
You can hope in one hand and......well you know the rest of the old saying.
Local governments are by far the worst offenders, and the buffoons who run those governments aren't about to do anything that would negatively affect their power to take private property. Until the state governments step in with their own laws (refer to old saying above, IOW never happen) the local yokels will continue to take property in order to increase the tax base and provide themselves with more money to waste on useless pet projects and grandiose monuments to their own self important egos.
There sure are some idiots 'round here.
They must have had a bulk sale somewhere recently.
so what's the problem?The taking of private property.
The private company is only being awarded a construction, operations, and maintenance contract, which can be canceled at any time by TXDOTThis would be the same "private company", at such great risk of being cancelled, finding it somehow beneficial to put up it's own money to have the state take private property ?
People need to fix their state constitutions to prevent eminent domain. Unless their constitutions already do protect them from it, that is.
You don't care about land or possessions, or so you say. So you take the side of the government condemning others. What about protecting those of us that do care about our land and possessions?
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