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Cheney trashes media
New York Daily News ^ | 06/24/2006 | Kenneth Bazinet

Posted on 06/24/2006 5:58:31 AM PDT by StatenIsland

WASHINGTON - Vice President Cheney raked the media yesterday for exposing a secret Bush administration project to look into financial transactions of Americans as part of the war on terror. "What I find most disturbing about these stories is the fact that some of the news media take it upon themselves to disclose vital national security programs, thereby making it more difficult for us to prevent future attacks against the American people," Cheney grumbled at a GOP fund-raiser in Illinois. "That offends me."

The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal first broke the story, infuriating Cheney, who has been on a crusade to get the press not to reveal programs the White House deems necessary to fight terror but have been denounced by some privacy advocates.

Earlier this week, Cheney said the news media should withhold publishing stories when the government asks them to, on the grounds of protecting national security.

The White House was upset last month when news leaked that it was eavesdropping on Americans without first getting warrants.

The White House contends it's not an invasion of Americans' privacy to sift through international financial records.

"This terrorist tracking program ... is really government at its best. It's responsible government. It's effective government. It's government that works," outgoing Treasury Secretary John Snow contended yesterday.

"This is not a fishing expedition. We're not simply trolling for data. We're not mining data. We are, rather, making precise inquiries," Snow said.

Shortly after the 9/11 attacks, the U.S. government began secretly looking at records from the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication. The Belgium-based cooperative routes about $6 trillion daily between banks, brokerages, stock exchanges and other financial institutions. The program did not include looking at everyday transactions by ordinary Americans.

The records helped track Riduan Isamuddin, known as Hambali, the suspected Al Qaeda boss in Southeast Asia, according to The Times.


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To: Knitting A Conundrum

It's a beautiful sight to see....


51 posted on 06/24/2006 7:04:04 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: StatenIsland
Earlier report :

US defends secret money tracking

And

ACLU Says Government Spying on Bank Records is Further Abuse of Power

52 posted on 06/24/2006 7:04:36 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: ardara

[I think we have a dangerous situation today where the U.S. press is trying to get absolute freedom.Senator Jeff Sessions had an interesting comment on this subject:"If a spy comes into our country and gets secure information and gives it to the enemy,we prosecute them and put them in jail.But if a reporter gets secure information and publishes it to our enemies and to the whole world,they get the Pulitzer Prize."]


Maybe the spies are the journalists.


53 posted on 06/24/2006 7:05:11 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: StatenIsland

He should remind all that the "media" may wery well get a hellava lot of LIBS killed. Er Ah, wait, Hmmm Gotta thimk this over sum more.


54 posted on 06/24/2006 7:05:17 AM PDT by Waco
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To: khnyny

Perfectly safe in this country to spy as a journalist


55 posted on 06/24/2006 7:06:30 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Marius3188
Either charge the press with treason or shut up. The President and VP need to put the smack down.

I agree with you. I wish the President and VP would put charges of treason where their mouths are, but I know that will never happen. I don't think anyone will ever be charged with treason in this country again - or at least not while it's a Republican-controlled White House and Congress... sigh...

56 posted on 06/24/2006 7:06:33 AM PDT by LibSnubber (Liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: mariabush

[When a person has a top secret clearance, you basically have taken an oath to keep your mouth shut for ever.]

That's right. Let's see if Mary O. McCarthy (former CIA leaker) gets prosecuted.


57 posted on 06/24/2006 7:06:52 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: wolfpat
Don't you know that government officials are better than us?
I mean Sandy "Burglar" stealing and destroying documents is nowhere
near as much of a threat to national security as a USAF TSgt leaving a
Secret folder locked in his desk while he went to the latrine.

You see Sandy protected the documents by destroying them,
while the TSgt did not properly secure them in an approved safe.

Isn't it obvious that Mr. Sandy was more consciencous about protecting
Mr. Clinton's the government's secrets? That is why Sandy got a slap on the wrist
(apparently because he properly destroyed the documents ) while the TSgt was busted
to SSgt and denied re-enlistment after his improper storage procedure was reported.
Do I really need to add any tags?

58 posted on 06/24/2006 7:11:13 AM PDT by RetiredSWO
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To: StatenIsland
Dubya, in his haste to be a President that gets along well in both political parties, allowed Clinton people to stay. Big mistake.

Rush says there is a 'shadow government' of Clinton people out to destroy dubya and could care less what damage it causes this country's ability to protect it's citizens.

I believe Rush has nailed it.

59 posted on 06/24/2006 7:13:28 AM PDT by Dustbunny (Amazing Grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me)
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To: Ben Chad

I say fine the NYT $250 Billion to repair the damage they have caused,
plus the damages from any future attacks this program may have prevented.


60 posted on 06/24/2006 7:13:56 AM PDT by RetiredSWO
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To: StatenIsland

The NYT owners are scared their income tax avoidance schemes will be exposed.


61 posted on 06/24/2006 7:19:15 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: StatenIsland

Arrest 'em 7 throw 'em in jail until we win the war on terrorism. Even if that takes decades.


62 posted on 06/24/2006 7:20:38 AM PDT by Thom Pain (Supporting the Constitution is NOT right wing. It is centrist.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
And me too! Don't you love the author's openness at his distain for Cheney...."Cheney grumbled, at a GOP fund-raiser in Illinois. "

Clymer!!
63 posted on 06/24/2006 7:25:50 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: All

The entire Democrat Party and the Mainstream media are traitors to our country
I agree %1000 .The NY Times needs to be dragged into court. They are putting road block in the way of the gov. finding out how to stop the PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KILL ME. Plain and simple . How much more simple can that be ? I think FR needs to push for dragging the NYT to court on this one . I cannot believe they get away with revealing anti terrorist methods.


64 posted on 06/24/2006 7:26:49 AM PDT by Tiberius109
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To: StatenIsland

That was utterly worthless! Hey Cheney, you and Bush stop being a bunch aof wusses and grow a set! Round up Pinch and his gang and try them for Teason and Sedition!


65 posted on 06/24/2006 7:27:09 AM PDT by Bommer (Attention illegals: Why don't you do the jobs we can't do? Like fix your own countries problems!)
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To: StatenIsland
The ACLU needs to be broken up. That's first. The media types that decided to go with this, after the administration AND members of congress on both sides of the aisle asked them not to, need to be charged.

But the kicker is is that congressional members in the committee (though committee leaders knew about this operation a long time ago I believe) were briefed on this a couple weeks ago. That's where an investigation as to who gave this to the press should come from. Could be from staffers or it could be from one of the horses mouth.

66 posted on 06/24/2006 7:28:07 AM PDT by b4its2late (John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!)
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To: wolfpat

A few people need to loose their government pensions for leaking information in order to clarify the minds of the hacks.


67 posted on 06/24/2006 7:28:34 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: StatenIsland

You want answers?
I think I'm entitled.
You want answers?!
I want the truth!
You can't handle the truth!


68 posted on 06/24/2006 7:30:23 AM PDT by LittleMoe
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To: All

We need to flod the Attorny Generals office with letters and emails to go after the NY Times for leaking legal anti terrorist methods. They are responsible for putting me in danger and I'm furious. Anone have an address/email for the US Attorny General ?


69 posted on 06/24/2006 7:35:50 AM PDT by Tiberius109
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To: StatenIsland

Boy have I been wrong. I have assumed all these years that the government was doing this in some fashion or another. But now the NYT and WSJ are telling me that this is NEWS. Perhaps they were concerned that our enemy (both domestic and foreign) didn't grasp it.


70 posted on 06/24/2006 7:46:15 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: CremeSaver
"In fact most of these so called journalist aren't fit to wipe Cheney's boots."

In fact most of these so called journalist aren't fit to wipe Cheney's......

Well, you know what I would fill in at the end.
71 posted on 06/24/2006 7:51:56 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals get up every morning and eat a big box of STUPID for breakfast)
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To: wolfpat
The reporting of this bothers me. But what bothers me more is that there is(are) a mole(s) in the government that is leaking this. That's who needs to be skinned alive.

Might not be in the government this time, or the phone call tracing. Might be someone in the banks or other institutions. In the phone records case, it might be someone in the phone company.

Whoever it was, they should be punished as the law allows, and as much as law allows.

I suspect the press can't be punished, except maybe for not revealing their sources to a grand jury and later a trial jury.

72 posted on 06/24/2006 7:56:58 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato

The Dems want power so badly that they would put us all in danger in order to slander Bush and the Republicans .This si disgusting.


73 posted on 06/24/2006 8:03:13 AM PDT by Tiberius109
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To: StatenIsland

Cheney grumbled, "I am offended..." by the Fifth Column Media disclosing/leaking info on VITAL natl security programs, etc.

Good Grief! Can you hear the thunder?


74 posted on 06/24/2006 8:11:37 AM PDT by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: StatenIsland; All

Check out the pictures (doctored WW II posters) on Michele Malkin's website - it's perfect.

http://www.michellemalkin.com/


75 posted on 06/24/2006 8:19:57 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: wolfpat

This program has been disclosed to the Senate Intel committee for ages. Feinstein and other dems have heard all about this. I'm leaks have to be coming from Dem staffers on the intell committee.


76 posted on 06/24/2006 8:21:54 AM PDT by ritewingwarrior
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To: ritewingwarrior

Of the theories on this thread, your's seems to me to ring most true.

If that's the case, I think firing squads are in order.


77 posted on 06/24/2006 8:26:25 AM PDT by wolfpat (To connect the dots, you have to collect the dots.)
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To: wolfpat

Well look at who knows about this stuff, and who has something to gain. Inside intel people may have some reason, some idealistic reason for being pissed at Bush and his reconfiguration of the power structure within the community. But I doubt it. The liberals have HUGE reasons to let this stuff out to continue their campaign of 'corruption and power grabbing' by the right.
They ought to fly every democratic staffer on the intel committee over to Egypt and exact some truth out of them.


78 posted on 06/24/2006 8:32:15 AM PDT by ritewingwarrior
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To: StatenIsland

This article is an embarrassment. Whoever wrote this has absolutely no journalistic integrity.


79 posted on 06/24/2006 8:32:38 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: StatenIsland

I would bet large that this information and subsequent decision to print and expose was promoted by 'a' US Senator. I would further surmise that the same leaker gave hollow assurances of no government retaliation if and when printed.

Our biggest enemy of late is our sitting incumbants.

"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged."
- Abraham Lincoln


80 posted on 06/24/2006 8:33:02 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: RetiredSWO

The times is guilty of sedition ....There is a war going on and the Times is against us..The Liberal socialist are also at war with us ..They want us to fail the war and they want power in this country .

Send a letter to the editor by e-mailing letters@nytimes.com or faxing (212)556-3622. Snail mail:

Letters to the Editor
The New York Times
229 West 43rd Street
New York, NY 10036


81 posted on 06/24/2006 8:34:46 AM PDT by Tiberius109
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To: Marius3188
Either charge the press with treason or shut up. The President and VP need to put the smack down.

He'd lose in court. They can print what they know, but they have no right to know anything. Those holding classified information who leak it to the press are another story, and are in violation of the law. They can be prosecuted. The press cannot. Except, as I say, for not revealing who gave them the information.

82 posted on 06/24/2006 8:34:54 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: StatenIsland

Bush is trying to protect the country during time of war - the New York Times hates Bush so much they would rather Americans die. That's about it.


83 posted on 06/24/2006 8:36:16 AM PDT by GOPJ (Once you see the MSM manipulate opinion, all their efforts seem manipulative-Reformedliberal)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

The Times hates President Bush so much they want him to fail at protecting the American people from death. The New York Times has chosen the door with the tiger behind it...



84 posted on 06/24/2006 8:39:38 AM PDT by GOPJ (Once you see the MSM manipulate opinion, all their efforts seem manipulative-Reformedliberal)
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To: GOPJ

It's amazing who chooses Bin Ladin and company over America...


85 posted on 06/24/2006 8:41:28 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: StatenIsland

Anyone with even a pea brain should recall that President Bush told the nation from pulpit of the National Cathedral on 9/14/01 that there would be things going on that we would never know about, that it would involve personal and financial aspects of suspects. This really isn't news ... or weren't the Markey's and Maloney's listening? We all knew full well, in the aftermath of 9/11, that the government was going to use every tool available to track possible terrorists. Why is this news ?

The Maloney woman, is particularly offenseive. Her claim to fame is that her husband was killed and son paralyzed because a lone gunman got on a LIRR train and started shooting .... tragic as that was, it would be a picnic compared to what these terrorists would do, given the chance. She's all in favor of gun control, but not terrorist control? She might want to consider STFU.


86 posted on 06/24/2006 8:46:16 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: CremeSaver

Grumbled

I caught that one too. The Bush haters in the media think they're so clever and we're stupid. They've become obvious to the point of being pathetic.

87 posted on 06/24/2006 8:48:36 AM PDT by IonInsights
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To: Marius3188
Either charge the press with treason or shut up. The President and VP need to put the smack down.

No, no, no. The President and VP can do nothing, neither can the DOJ, the DOD, congress or any other government agency. You see, there's this little matter of the constitution. HOWEVER, although the constitution restricts what the GOVERNMENT can or can no do, it makes no mention of what the PEOPLE decide they can or can not do.

In days gone by, the American people showed their ire with creeps like this by cover them with hot tar and feathers and running them out of town on a rail. That is NOT vigilante justice, it is sensible protection of the American people BY the American people. It's OUR job to do something, we're the only ones the constitution does NOT restrict.

Unfortunately, these morons reside in New York, and, although New York has been hit with a terrorist attack, it doesn't seem to have more than a half dozen people who believe 9-11 actually happened. Except, of course, when the money slows, then they suddenly remember about terror and all that. The very fact that these writers from the NYT and WSJ can walk the streets without being buried in rotten fruit and vegetables shows you just what New York City is composed of.

88 posted on 06/24/2006 8:49:53 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: StatenIsland

Not only does the MSM want to leak stories to injure our ability to fight the terror-scum, they f**k up the story beyond recognition as well.


89 posted on 06/24/2006 8:50:11 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
It's amazing who chooses Bin Ladin and company over America...

I've gotten to the point where I hope it's only their hatred of President Bush. What if they really are actively working against this country - for other reasons? Reasons that might be much darker. It's almost too horrible to think about, but what could make the New York Times be willing to risk all of our lives? Can it be just hatred?

90 posted on 06/24/2006 8:54:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (Once you see the MSM manipulate opinion, all their efforts seem manipulative-Reformedliberal)
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To: Tiberius109
We need to flod the Attorny Generals office with letters and emails to go after the NY Times for leaking legal anti terrorist methods

The NY Times does not hold a security clearance. They cannot be prosecuted for revealing information they are not supposed to have in the first place. Someone else does hold such a clearance, the ones who gave them the information, and can and should be prosecuted.

That said, they are traitorous slime, and no one should ever by their wares again. They will pay, in the market, for their treason.

91 posted on 06/24/2006 8:55:07 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: GOPJ

They DO have a bigger plan .The Times is the voice of liberal socialism ..The paper is their propaganda arm.Take it from there my friend.


92 posted on 06/24/2006 9:01:28 AM PDT by Tiberius109
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To: mariabush
"It looks like to me that it would be relativity easy to catch the government workers that are feeding the media out top secrets."

I just learned the other day that all EX-Presidents as a courtesy are allowed at the National Security Briefings. That being the case I think we can pretty well guess who the leakers are. Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.

93 posted on 06/24/2006 9:02:41 AM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: El Gato

So you're telling me that a news paper has carte blanche to spread govt secrets any time in any manner because they are NOT supposed to have that info. I think you'r ewrong my friend . So by your logic a spy cannot be prosecuted because he is spreading information he isn't supposed to have .


94 posted on 06/24/2006 9:04:09 AM PDT by Tiberius109
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To: ritewingwarrior
This program has been disclosed to the Senate Intel committee for ages. Feinstein and other dems have heard all about this. I'm leaks have to be coming from Dem staffers on the intell committee.

Senator Jay Rockefeller, Democrat W. VA

'nuff said
95 posted on 06/24/2006 9:09:46 AM PDT by Republican Red (Everyone is super stoked on Gore. Even if they don't know it)
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To: Beagle8U

I get your point. LOL!


96 posted on 06/24/2006 9:10:42 AM PDT by CremeSaver
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To: jwatzzzzz
The American people are treated like Mushrooms. They are fed lies and are given no real choice in elections.

You should run.

97 posted on 06/24/2006 9:16:49 AM PDT by DC Bound
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To: IonInsights
Isn't it always this way? Journalists become "word challenged" when talking about Republicans and the Bush administration. They are only capable of using words with negative connotations. I am so aware of it now that negative words pop right off the page, and with each word I have more and more contempt for the main stream media.
98 posted on 06/24/2006 9:18:07 AM PDT by CremeSaver
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To: silverleaf

What are you saying happens to every insurance policy in the event of war?


99 posted on 06/24/2006 9:20:45 AM PDT by DC Bound
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To: Spunky

Oh my gosh!!!!!


100 posted on 06/24/2006 9:26:28 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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