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Planned Parenthood Celebration Jolted by Abortion Survivor [Colorado]
CatholicEducation.org ^ | May, 2006 | Ted Harvey

Posted on 06/28/2006 11:25:07 AM PDT by Salvation


Planned Parenthood Celebration Jolted by Abortion Survivor
   TED HARVEY


She sings the anthem to applause, then her secret is revealed to stunned silence.

Gianna Jessen

I want to share with you an awesome experience I had in the Colorado House of Representatives on May 8. It is a humbling experience to look back and realize that God used me to play a role in His divine orchestration.

I was leaving the House chambers for the weekend when our Democrat speaker of the House announced that the coming Monday would be the final day of this year's General Assembly. He went on to state that there were still numerous resolutions on the calendar which we would need to be addressed prior to the summer adjournment. Interestingly, he specifically mentioned that one of the resolutions we would be hearing was being carried by the House Majority Leader Alice Madden, honoring the 90th anniversary of Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains.

As a strong pro-life legislator I was disgusted by the idea that we would pass a resolution honoring this 90-year legacy of genocide. I drove home that night wondering what I could say that might pierce the darkness during the debate on this heinous resolution.

On Saturday morning, I took my 8-year-old son up to the mountains to go white-water rafting. The trip lasted all day. As we were driving home, exhausted and hungry, I remembered that I had accepted an invitation to attend a fundraising dinner that night for a local pro-life organization. One of my most respected mentors had personally called me several weeks earlier and asked me to attend, so I knew I'd have to clean up and head over.

After our meal, the executive director of the organization introduced the keynote speaker. I looked up and saw walking to the stage a handicapped young lady being assisted to the microphone by a young man holding a guitar.

Her name was Gianna Jessen.

Gianna said "Hello," welcomed everyone, and then sang three of the most beautiful Christian songs I have ever heard.

She then began to give her testimony. When her biological mother was 17 years old and seven and a half months pregnant, she went to a Planned Parenthood clinic to have an abortion. As God would have it, the abortion failed and a beautiful 2-pound baby girl was brought into the world. Unfortunately, she was born with cerebral palsy and the doctors thought that she would never survive. The doctors were wrong.

Imagine the timing! A survivor of a Planned Parenthood abortion arrived in town just days before the Colorado House of Representatives was to celebrate Planned Parenthood's "wonderful" work.

As I listened to Gianna's amazing testimony, the Lord inspired me to ask her if she could stay in Denver until Monday morning so that I could introduce her on the floor of the House and tell her story. Perhaps she could even begin the final day's session by singing our country's national anthem!

To my surprise she said she would seriously consider it. If she were to agree, she wanted her accompanying guitarist to stay as well. A lady standing in line behind me waiting to meet Gianna overheard our conversation and said that she would be willing to pay for the guitarist's room. Gianna then said that she would think about it.


As I was driving home from the banquet, my cell phone rang. It was Gianna, and she immediately said, "I'm in, let's ruin this celebration." Praise God!

When Monday morning came, I awoke at 6 a.m. to write my speech before heading to the Capitol. As I wrote down the words, I could sense God's help and I knew that this was going to be a powerful moment for the pro-life movement.

Following a committee hearing, I rushed into the House chambers just as the opening morning prayer was about to be given. Between the prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance, I wrote a quick note to the speaker of the House explaining that Gianna is an advocate for cerebral palsy. I took the note to the speaker and asked if I could have my friend open the last day of session by singing the national anthem. Without any hesitation the speaker took the microphone and said, "Before we begin, Representative Harvey has made available for us Gianna Jessen to sing the national anthem."

Gianna sang the most amazing rendition of The Star Spangled Banner that you could possibly imagine. Every person in the entire chamber was completely still, quiet and in awe of this frail young lady's voice.

Due to her cerebral palsy, Gianna often loses her balance, and shortly after starting to sing she grabbed my arm to stabilize herself, and I could tell that she was shaking. Suddenly, midway through the song, she forgot the words and began to hum and then said, "Please forgive me; I am so nervous." She then immediately began singing again and every House member and every guest throughout the chambers began to sing along with her to give her encouragement and to lift her up.

As I looked around the huge hall I listened to the unbelievable melody of Gianna's voice being accompanied by a choir of over 100 voices. I had chills running all over my body, and I knew that I had just witnessed an act of God.

As the song concluded the speaker of the House explained that Gianna has cerebral palsy and is an activist to bring awareness to the disease. "Let us give her a hand not only for her performance today, but also for her advocacy work," he said. The chamber immediately exploded into applause she had them all in the palm of her hand.


The speaker then called the House to order, and we proceeded as usual to allow members to make any announcements or introductions of guests. For dramatic effect, I waited until I was the last person remaining before I introduced Gianna.

As I waited for my turn, I nervously paced back and forth praying to God that he would give me the peace, confidence and the courage necessary to pull off what I knew would be one of the most dramatic and controversial moments of my political career.

While I waited, a prominent reporter from one of the major Denver newspapers walked over to Gianna and told her that her rendition captured the spirit of the national anthem more powerfully than any she had ever heard before.

Finally, I was the last person remaining. So, I proceeded to the microphone and began my speech.


At this point the chamber exploded into applause which lasted for 15-to-20 seconds. Gianna had touched their souls.


"Members, I would like to introduce you to a new friend and hero of mine — her name is Gianna Jessen. She is visiting us today from Nashville, Tennessee, where she is an accomplished recording artist.

"She has cerebral palsy and was raised in foster homes before being adopted at the age of four.

"She was born prematurely and weighed only 2 pounds at birth. She remained in the hospital for almost three months. A doctor once said she had a great will to live and that she fought for her life. Eventually she was able to leave the hospital and be placed in foster care.

"Because of her cerebral palsy, her foster mother was told that it was doubtful that she would ever crawl or walk. She could not sit up independently. Through the prayers and dedication of her foster mother, she eventually learned to sit up, crawl, then stand. Shortly before her fourth birthday, she began to walk with leg braces and a walker.

"She continued in physical therapy and after a total of four surgeries, she was able to walk without assistance.

"She still falls sometimes, but she says she has learned how to fall gracefully after falling for 29 years.

"Two years ago, she walked into a local health club and said she wanted a private trainer. At the time her legs could not lift 30 pounds. Today she can leg press 200 pounds.

"She became so physically fit that she began running marathons to raise money and awareness for cerebral palsy. She just returned last week from England where she ran in the London Marathon. It took her more than eight-and-a-half hours to complete. They were taking down the course by the time she made it to the finish line. But she made it, nonetheless. With bloody feet and aching joints, she finished the race.

"Members would you help me recognize a modern-day hero Gianna Jessen?"

At this point the chamber exploded into applause which lasted for 15-to-20 seconds. Gianna had touched their souls.


Ironically, Alice Madden, the majority leader and sponsor of the Planned Parenthood resolution, walked over to Gianna and congratulated her.

As the applause began to die down, I raised my hand to be recognized one more time.

"Mr. Speaker, members, if you would allow me just a few more moments I would appreciate your time.


"My name is Ted Harvey, not Paul Harvey, but, please, let me tell you the rest of the story."


"My name is Ted Harvey, not Paul Harvey, but, please, let me tell you the rest of the story.

"The cause of Gianna's cerebral palsy is not because of some biological freak of nature, but rather the choice of her mother.

"You see when her biological mother was 17-years-old and 7-and-a-half months pregnant, she went to a Planned Parenthood clinic to seek a late-term abortion. The abortionist performed a saline abortion on this 17-year-old girl. This procedure requires the injection of a high concentration of saline into the mother's womb, which the fetus is then bathed in and swallows, which results in the fetus being burned to death, inside and out. Within 24 hours the results are normally an induced, still-born abortion.

"As Gianna can testify, the procedure is not always 100 percent effective. Gianna is an aborted late-term fetus who was born alive. The high concentration of saline in the womb for 24 hours resulted in a lack of oxygen to her brain and is the cause of her cerebral palsy.

"Members, today, we are going to recognize the 90th anniversary of Rocky Mountain Planned Parenthood…"

BANG! The gavel came down.

Just as I was finishing the last sentence of my speech — the climax of the morning — the speaker of the House gaveled me down and said, "Representative Harvey, I will allow you to continue your introduction, but not for the purposes of debating a measure now pending before the House."

At which point I said,

"Mr. Speaker, I understand. I just wanted to put a face to what we are celebrating today."

Silence.

Deafening silence.

I then walked back to my chair shaking like a leaf. The Democrats wouldn't look at me. They were fuming. It was beautiful. I have been in the Legislature for five tough years, and this made it all worthwhile.

The House majority leader wouldn't talk to me the rest of the day.

Was it because I introduced an abortion survivor, or was it because we touched her soul? She could congratulate an inspirational cerebral palsy victim and advocate, but was outraged when she discovered that the person she congratulated was also an abortion survivor.

The headline in The Denver Post the next day read "Abortion Jab Earns Rebuke." The majority leader is quoted as saying, "I think it was amazingly rude to use a human being as an example of his personal politics."

Yes, Representative Madden, Gianna Jessen is a human being. She was when she was in her mother's womb, and she was when she sang the national anthem on the floor of the Colorado House of Representatives.

The paper went on to quote Gianna, stating she was glad I told her story.

"We need to discuss the humanity of it. I'm glad to be able to speak up for children in the womb," she said. "If abortion is about women's rights, where were my rights?"

All I can say is, "Glory to God!" He orchestrated it all, every minute of it, and I was so honored to have been chosen to play a part. May we all continue to be filled with and to fight for the passion of our Lord Jesus Christ!

ACKNOWLEDGEMENT

Ted Harvey. "Planned Parenthood Celebration Jolted by Abortion Survivor." CERC.

Reprinted with permission of Ted Harvey.

THE AUTHOR

Ted Harvey is Assistant Minority Leader in the Colorado House of Representatives and is currently running for the State Senate. Visit his web site here. E-mail him here.

Copyright © 2006 Ted Harvey
 



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To: Locomotive Breath
This is exactly the kind of stunt that gives Christians a bad name.

Kinda like those radicals who threw the tea in the boston harbor?
51 posted on 06/28/2006 1:48:39 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: BagCamAddict
at what point a "fetus" becomes a "baby", I'll tell you my personal definition: The point at which the baby can survive outside the womb.)

At what age can a human live outside the womb without help from an older human?
52 posted on 06/28/2006 1:51:40 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium

That was purely political and they made no claim to moral superiority. I hold Christians to a higher standard. Do you not?


53 posted on 06/28/2006 1:55:58 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: BagCamAddict
"...my personal definition: The point at which the baby can survive outside the womb."

What age might that be?

So, by that logic... if a "fetus" comes out of the womb "alive" but dies later... does not survive, it was never a baby? How long does the fetus have to survive out of the womb? One second? One minute? One year? What if the fetus could have survived, but no one cared for it?

...not looking to pick a fight, just trying to understand this kind of thinking.

jw

54 posted on 06/28/2006 2:02:46 PM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: Salvation; Lil'freeper

Wow


55 posted on 06/28/2006 2:07:47 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (..it takes some pretty serious yodeling to..filibuster from a five star ski resort in the Swiss Alps)
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To: Salvation

Thank you for posting this. That was just too sweet.... I wish I could have seen those faces.


56 posted on 06/28/2006 2:18:54 PM PDT by tarawa
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To: Delphinium; BagCamAddict
"At what age can a human live outside the womb without help from an older human?"

From my experience it's around 18 years old.

Also don't forget many grown up human taxpayers are supporting people beyond their 80's. So I ask, at what age can we start killing older humans who need younger ones to take care of them?

How I hate situational ethics such as when a "fetus is only human when it can get a job" or some other bs like that. A human is a human no matter what age.
57 posted on 06/28/2006 2:20:05 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Locomotive Breath
These were Christian men, who knew Gods word. They probably practiced Christianity more fully than any of todays standards. They claimed moral superiority all through their speeches, check it out. By being so educated by the the Bible the way they were, they understood that Freedom was a God idea.

I believe that these Christian, Bible believing colonists, some dressed as Native Americans,(imposters),who boarded British ships and tossed the tea cargo, (that did not belong to them) into Boston Harbor were inspired by God.

Inspired by God, just as this Gianna Jesson, and Ted Harvey were this day, to make a very important statement. I believe God was able to touch many hearts that day. Whether or not those that were touched by the Spirit of God concious's was more seared is between them, and God.

. Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Beside, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of Nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us." -- Patrick Henry
58 posted on 06/28/2006 2:21:18 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Locomotive Breath

This "stunt" was very crafty, something Jesus extols. Ted Harvey employed an effective rhetorical technique to communicate his message.

Following Jesus is what gives Christians "a bad name" (see Luke 6:22).


59 posted on 06/28/2006 2:22:07 PM PDT by Theo
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To: Locomotive Breath
He did not lie at all. He just set the bad guys up TO FACE THE TRUTH!! And, of course, they cannot ever HANDLE the truth.

Now, please do me a favor.... don't post to me again.

60 posted on 06/28/2006 2:25:41 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics arn't religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims! NO FAT ISLAMIC broads!!)
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To: Salvation
Wow, she's cute. How many great people have been snuffed out for convenience ? How many cures will never be found? How many great scientists and inventors were never born ?
61 posted on 06/28/2006 2:27:01 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Salvation
Wow, she's cute. How many great people have been snuffed out for convenience ? How many cures will never be found? How many great scientists and inventors were never born ?
62 posted on 06/28/2006 2:27:43 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Delphinium
"Kinda like those radicals who threw the tea in the boston harbor?"

BTTT!!!!!

63 posted on 06/28/2006 2:28:10 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics arn't religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims! NO FAT ISLAMIC broads!!)
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To: John Lenin

I agree with you.


64 posted on 06/28/2006 2:28:52 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics arn't religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims! NO FAT ISLAMIC broads!!)
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To: Locomotive Breath
I hold Christians to a higher standard. Do you not?

Yes I do, and hiding being some false idea of what is Christian to excuse not fighting for the lives of unborn children is not Christianity. Remember judgement will begins at the house of God. If all of these "Christians" would have acted like Christians and voted pro-life , our nation, that God blessed us with wouldn't have murdered 50 million children.
65 posted on 06/28/2006 2:34:57 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Salvation

I last saw Gianna when she was about 13 years old. It is fantastic to see that she has grown into a Godly woman who is still fighting the battle!


66 posted on 06/28/2006 2:36:03 PM PDT by politicket
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To: BagCamAddict

Why yes the are whacko baby killers! The very moniker of "pro-choice" is an oxymoron! That baby has NO CHOICE!!!

A fetus becomes a baby at the moment of conception.


67 posted on 06/28/2006 2:45:49 PM PDT by g33k355 ("He that cannot reason is a fool. He that will not is a bigot. He that dare not is a slave.")
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To: Delphinium

There were plenty of ways to express themselves in a Christian manner. Anonymous mob violence and destruction of the property of others (who may have even shared their faith) over an issue of taxation is not something that I associate with the Christian faith. I'm sorry to learn that you do. Will you be firebombing an abortion clinic or a Planned Parenthood office if you feel inspired by God to do so?


68 posted on 06/28/2006 2:58:43 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Lion in Winter
They both lied and you know it. Maybe you feel there are different standards as to how to treat the unfaithful versus the faithful? Jesus weeps.

Now, please do me a favor.... don't post to me again.

You deserve no favors from me. And now you're exhibiting another behavior that doesn't seem exactly Christian to me. If you can't handle a civil counter argument to your point of view then you may find Freerepublic a difficult place to be. Let's just say that I'm inspired by God to witness for my faith as I understand it.
69 posted on 06/28/2006 3:09:33 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Salvation

Just awesome! Wish we could've heard her song, as well. God bless her! May God use her to turn around some who have given lip-service to the other side, and now have questions, if not deep regrets!


70 posted on 06/28/2006 3:10:37 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Theo

Don't mistake being criticized for dishonesty for being persecuted for your faith.


71 posted on 06/28/2006 3:11:41 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: SlowBoat407
"It was despicable," said House Majority Leader Alice Madden, D-Boulder. "Ted Harvey doesn't care about proper decorum or the rules. He just wants to push his narrow agenda."

It's different for liberals pushing their narrow agendas, because theirs are the CORRECT agendas.

72 posted on 06/28/2006 3:14:42 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Locomotive Breath
Anonymous mob violence and destruction of the property of others (who may have even shared their faith) over an issue of taxation is not something that I associate with the Christian faith.

I hope you are in church on the 4th of July patting yourself on the back for all your good works.

I will be thinking of you, as I thank my God, and my Savior Jesus Christ for our radical founding Christian fathers. And His inspiration for a Free nation , that I am very priviledged to be born in.

I will be working hard for a pro-life congressional candidate as I do every election year. If I could count how many times some so called Christian has told me how unChristian politics are?
73 posted on 06/28/2006 3:15:45 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Locomotive Breath
"This is exactly the kind of stunt that gives Christians a bad name."

It's funny how Christians are the ONLY group I EVER hear about getting a "bad name" as a group from any behaviors seen as "bad"--and it comes up virtually EVERY time any Christian is being chastised for anything the one offering the criticism doesn't like.

This widely practiced exception to the Bigotry Rule is just one of the many proofs that Christians are held to a different standard than anyone else--which itself bears testimony to the spiritual warfare described in the Bible.

74 posted on 06/28/2006 3:24:06 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Locomotive Breath
I guess I want a definition and taxonomy of lying. I haven't read the article carefully (but then I haven't accused an involved person of lying) but I don't recall a blunt, straight-up, intentional statement of something the speaker knew to be false, as you might say,"Lying in the first degree." I think there was misdirection and a certain amount of speaking in riddles, and I'm really not clear that's always wrong.

Further, whatever most pro-choice people believe, it seems that the law allows, and requires states to allow, and permits parents and fathers from being excluded from a position to influence abortion at any stage up to and including a few minutes after the birth of a viable infant.

And my impression, possibly mistaken, is that most pro-choicers don't want the law changed.

As to causes of CP, I concede that CP is not caused by one and only one thing and that we don't know all the causes.

Do you know, however, that anyone knows that the introduction of the saline solution did NOT cause this woman's CP? Do you know that know one knows that it did?

The whole mess is complicated, in this particular instance, though I think the morality is clear.

75 posted on 06/28/2006 3:24:15 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (If the gates of Hell prevail against it, it probably never was a church anyway.)
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To: Delphinium
I notice that you didn't answer my question.

I will be working hard for a pro-life congressional candidate as I do every election year. If I could count how many times some so called Christian has told me how unChristian politics are?

You've just made my point. I have absolutely no objection at all to someone whose faith motivates their political activity as long as it is done in the full light of day in accordance with the laws of the nation.
76 posted on 06/28/2006 3:26:33 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Theo
"Following Jesus is what gives Christians "a bad name" (see Luke 6:22)."

Well said.

Christians are clearly warned that the world will vilify them. They will never get a fair shake, and in fact if they are "popular" in the world, should probably do serious self-examination as to what kind of job they are doing as representatives of Christ.

As long as a Christian is hearing claims such as "That's the sort of thing that gives Christians a bad name!" from the world he or she can probably sleep well at night, knowing they are serving well and merely paying the price that comes with true service.

77 posted on 06/28/2006 3:30:50 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Locomotive Breath
You've just made my point.

That does not make your point.

I'll be back after church to argue my point some more.
78 posted on 06/28/2006 3:37:21 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: BagCamAddict
(And to reduce the number of people who will ask me at what point a "fetus" becomes a "baby", I'll tell you my personal definition: The point at which the baby can survive outside the womb.)

Aren't you glad that your mother didn't decide to abort you?

Just because your opinion is a baby only becomes one when it can survive outside the womb doesn't make it so. That's a human life that is forming inside the womb.

It is the kind of attitude that reduces it from being a human being until born that is resulting in millions of babies being aborted each year worldwide. I guess it's easier to kill them when you don't consider them human.

79 posted on 06/28/2006 3:51:21 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: BagCamAddict
The point at which the baby can survive outside the womb

SO you define humanity by the progress of medical technology at saving premature births? OR do you think we should leave them all to nature and see if the live or die before deciding if the are human yet? Or did you mean at the point where they can survive without someone or something performing the function of the mother? Then we can abort up to a few years old.

I am sorry but adjusting the point were you are allowed to kill a baby by a couple months does not relieve them of 'whacko baby killer' status.

Pro-abort types are willing to draw that line, and willing to move it around based on whim or new research. Pro-lifers say no-one should be allowed to draw the line and say 'you are human and you are not'. The point is not WHERE you draw the line. The issue is that you are WILLING TO DRAW IT and then kill a developing human based on it.
80 posted on 06/28/2006 3:57:09 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Locomotive Breath
I was, presumably, someone's unwanted pregnancy as I was adopted as an infant in 1957. It's easy enough to understand why I don't support Planned Parenthood. However, I find the manner in which this young lady was sneaked into the Colorado House on false pretenses to be dishonest and unChristian. This is exactly the kind of stunt that gives Christians a bad name.

She got in with the consent of the author, the minority leader and with permission from the House Speaker. They didn't get as upset with her presence as you have. Christians at times have had to be bold to get a chance to even be heard. She didn't break any laws.

81 posted on 06/28/2006 4:01:14 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Locomotive Breath
You've just made my point. I have absolutely no objection at all to someone whose faith motivates their political activity as long as it is done in the full light of day in accordance with the laws of the nation.

Please.. enlighten us. What law did she break?

82 posted on 06/28/2006 4:05:00 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Salvation

Astounding!

Made me shiver


83 posted on 06/28/2006 4:11:42 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: NYer

When I saw it I was so excited that I didn't do a search. Thanks.


84 posted on 06/28/2006 4:12:20 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Lion in Winter
SOME STORIES NEED REPEATING!!! Can I get an AMEN????

Amen and Amen!

85 posted on 06/28/2006 4:12:37 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: jaredt112

You're welcome. Authored by a Republican!


86 posted on 06/28/2006 4:16:48 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Thanks for that story. Excellent!


87 posted on 06/28/2006 4:16:57 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (If Christians can go nuclear in a biblical way, would the Israelis go nuclear in a talmudic way?)
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To: Havok

U agree! Great TRUE story!


88 posted on 06/28/2006 4:17:24 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: baltoga

Sadly, I think your statement is true.


89 posted on 06/28/2006 4:18:07 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Campion

Wasn't aware that she had testified on a national government level. Someday the abortion advocates will meet their maker. And they won't be happy campers when they see what happens to those who assist in an abortion in any way!


90 posted on 06/28/2006 4:19:40 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: RexBeach

Thanks for the kind words.


91 posted on 06/28/2006 4:20:13 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Locomotive Breath; cgk; NYer; Salvation

Just out of curiosity, do you think that the message Ted Harvey sought to spread - with the help and permission of an abortion survivor - wasn't worth what he went through to get it done? Especially considering that he would've (most likely) been turned down had he said the person speaking would be talking about abortion?

After all, the practice of abortion has ended the lives of over 700,000,000 globally since 1920. And that's just recorded. Estimates come around to 900,000,000-1,000,000,000 range. That's a lot of dead babies.

Let me just ask you something; do you think the message wasn't worth it? A message that basically = "Abortion is bad and the unborn are human"?

Please think about your answer. I think God would be a bit more angry at the practice of abortion, and not at Ted Harvey for jumping through the loopholes that exist for abortion (I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have existed if the speaker was going to speak about 'gay rights').


92 posted on 06/28/2006 4:34:57 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Conservatives teach you how to fish. Liberals give you the fish by stealing it from the fisherman.)
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To: FJ290

I was referring to the Boston Tea Party because it was given as an appropriate example of Christian activism.


93 posted on 06/28/2006 4:35:24 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: FJ290

** A miracle indeed!**

Amen!


94 posted on 06/28/2006 4:35:49 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Nihil Obstat

**each of the other 40,000,000 US victims of abortion had a special gift from God to share with us.**

Agreed!


95 posted on 06/28/2006 4:36:45 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: OldFriend

Thanks for your kind words. My sentiments exactly.


96 posted on 06/28/2006 4:37:28 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Sunshine Sister

Not on the ABCNNBCBS agemda, is it?


97 posted on 06/28/2006 4:39:30 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
I assume Ted Harvey regularly gets the chance to speak as a legislator. He has numerous opportunities to make his opinion known on matters of importance.

If you read my original post you know that I assume that if the laws had been written in 1957 as they are today I would not be here. You don't need to convince me.

I don't believe you can convince anyone of the righteousness of your cause by dirty tricks.
98 posted on 06/28/2006 4:39:35 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: sachem longrifle

**But Planned parenthood claims they are neutral on abortion**

NOT!!!!!


99 posted on 06/28/2006 4:40:26 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: tioga

AMEN! to your prayer. And I bet God has blessed others through her, too!


100 posted on 06/28/2006 4:41:17 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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