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What Birds See [evolution of the eye]
Scientific American ^
| July 2006
| Timothy H. Goldsmith
Posted on 07/03/2006 10:05:56 AM PDT by doc30
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To: null and void
I think UV would appear as a new primary color. To describe it to the rest of us would be like trying to describe the difference between red and green to a person with red/green color blindness. It's all the same color to them. If it did appear as a new primary color, we would no longer have a color wheel, but a color tetrahedron with the primaries at each corner, the blending of two colors would form the edges and the blending of three colors would forn the faces.
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posted on
07/04/2006 9:32:12 PM PDT
by
doc30
(Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
To: Central Scrutiniser
It was not funny. It was insipid. Typical wordy Trudeau. I stopped reading his cartoons before I was 20 years old. His works are never funny, and they are idiotic.
Liberals love him for the exact reasons that that I stopped looking at that crap so long ago.
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posted on
07/04/2006 9:35:26 PM PDT
by
Radix
(Stop domestic violence. Beat abroad.)
To: doc30
a color tetrahedronYeah. I think that would work.
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posted on
07/04/2006 9:36:16 PM PDT
by
null and void
(Good advice is always certain to be ignored, but that's no reason not to give it. - Agatha Christy)
To: BipolarBob
"Something like the universe is went from order to chaos, right?"
Sort of like Entropy, which is what your sentence reminds me of.
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posted on
07/04/2006 9:38:45 PM PDT
by
Radix
(Stop domestic violence. Beat abroad.)
To: Radix
It was funny, you are just a tightass. It was dead on, and you can't handle it. I'm looking at the cartoon, not the author.
To: b_sharp
"Just as a note to all:Linnaean taxonomy was developed long before Darwin released 'The Origin of Species' (more than 100 years) and before the Theory of Evolution was proposed. It could not possibly be based on Evolution."
How long have fungi been classified as Eukaryote organisms?
Taxonomy is an ongoing process.
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posted on
07/04/2006 9:53:07 PM PDT
by
Radix
(Stop domestic violence. Beat abroad.)
To: Central Scrutiniser
Honestly. it was not funny.
I like good humor. If I saw humor in it, I'd say so.
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posted on
07/04/2006 9:54:07 PM PDT
by
Radix
(Stop domestic violence. Beat abroad.)
To: null and void
Any group that can find the Tetragrammaton in the Koine New Testament is not seriously deserving to be considered a "Christian sect."
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posted on
07/04/2006 9:58:03 PM PDT
by
Radix
(Stop domestic violence. Beat abroad.)
To: Radix
Are you the
soul sole arbiter of who is and who isn't Christian?
Remarkable!
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posted on
07/04/2006 10:06:36 PM PDT
by
null and void
(Good advice is always certain to be ignored, but that's no reason not to give it. - Agatha Christy)
To: Radix
Honestly, you are a tight ass, If I saw any humor in you, I'd say so.
To: b_sharp
If two species have numerous morphological similarities and few differences, baraminologists will place the two in separate baramines if the Bible so dictates. In this case, whales would be placed in with fish rather than with mammals even though whales are distinctly mammals. The evidence is that whales are mammals - they have far more in common with mammals (they share diagnostic features with mammals) than with fish -, yet baraminologists can ignore that evidence and focus on the fact that whales and fish both live in the water and are classed as fish by the Bible, then decide to place them together in a single baramine.
You are not suggesting that
there are those so out of touch with reality as to make such a claim, are you?
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posted on
07/05/2006 6:00:05 AM PDT
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: Central Scrutiniser
"Unfortunately, for some, to be conservative, you must be a white christian who believes in creationism, and never ever veers from that."
Yes, it is a work of genius how they take a book of the history of the Jew's struggles, give Jesus a white boy look, and tell the people (that the book is written about to begin with) that they are going to hell if they do not adapt the Christian way. The Mayan's loved being the Christian's slaves. The Crusaders went out to save the world. Yeah boy, it is just a history of love and joy.
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posted on
07/05/2006 6:22:52 AM PDT
by
SaveUS
To: doc30
I think UV would appear as a new primary color. What do primary colors look like? Serious question. I'm I guy, I "know" five colors. Not three...
More seriously, I see Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Brown and Purple as distinct colors. I know intellectually that there are two sets of three primary colors (red green blue, and yellow, magenta, cyan) but in my personal 'perception space' I have the seven listed.
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posted on
07/05/2006 7:30:11 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Good advice is always certain to be ignored, but that's no reason not to give it. - Agatha Christy)
To: staterightsfirst
Here's where this started as support for the discussion of 'leg development'. The process of developing novel features through gene duplication and/or modification of regulatory genes has been reproduced in the lab. Please provide a relevant example where this did not result in a freak. No polyploidy in plants please. That wouldn't be relevant.
To: js1138
Yes, Newtons words do speak for themselves and they did not require that man reject creation to pursue science.
So your post was irrelevant.
But you knew that.
To: b_sharp
Gene duplication followed by an indel can create a modified version of a feature. An example of this is the 125 million year old gene duplication event in the common ancestor of Arabidopsis thaliana (mustard plant) and the Antirrhinum majus (snapdragon) in which the AG gene in the A. thaliana and the PLE gene in the A. majus have both diverged from the copy and each other. Poor guy. Still doesn't know the difference between an observed gene duplication and an assumed one. That's the problem w/ these guys. Their imagination is transferred into reality in their minds and they think that everyone else has to accept it.
To: b_sharp
Ah yes, redefinition. That always helps to deceive.
Evidence is facts. Interpretation is speculation.
To equivocate speculation w/ 'evidence' is to deceive.
The basis of evolution.
To: doc30
We do not see legs 'evolving' today. Why should that process have stopped? No reason.
You do not understand that imposing a 'leg evolution' sequence on a jumbled mess of geology is not science.
To: doc30
What does a bird see?
To: GourmetDan; b_sharp
It seems GourmetDan believes science can only be done with direct observation using our 5 senses. GourmetDan. virtually everything in science is the result of indirect measurements through various techniques and instruments. I suppose you believe that the speedometer on you car or a cop's radar gun is an inferred measurement based on assumptions. I'd love to see the expression on a cop's face after he pulls you over for speeding and you tell him he's wrong because his measurements are assumptions and inferred facts!
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posted on
07/05/2006 8:22:15 AM PDT
by
doc30
(Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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