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The Vatican Confronts Islam
Front Page Magazine ^ | 05 July 2006 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 07/05/2006 4:54:43 AM PDT by unionblue83

“Enough now with this turning the other cheek! It’s our duty to protect ourselves.” Thus spoke Monsignor Velasio De Paolis, secretary of the Vatican’s supreme court, referring to Muslims. Explaining his apparent rejection of Jesus’ admonition to his followers to “turn the other cheek,” De Paolis noted that “The West has had relations with the Arab countries for half a century…and has not been able to get the slightest concession on human rights.”

De Paolis is hardly alone in his thinking; indeed, the Catholic Church is undergoing a dramatic shift from a decades-old policy to protect Catholics living under Muslim rule. The old methods of quiet diplomacy and muted appeasement have clearly failed. The estimated 40 million Christians in Dar al-Islam, notes the Barnabas Fund’s Patrick Sookhdeo, increasingly find themselves an embattled minority facing economic decline, dwindling rights, and physical jeopardy. Most of them, he goes on, are despised and distrusted second-class citizens, facing discrimination in education, jobs, and the courts.

These harsh circumstances are causing Christians to flee their ancestral lands for the West’s more hospitable environment. Consequently, Christian populations of the Muslim world are in a free-fall. Two small but evocative instances of this pattern: for the first time in nearly two millennia, Nazareth and Bethlehem no longer have Christian majorities.

This reality of oppression and decline stands in dramatic contrast to the surging Muslim minority of the West. Although numbering fewer than 20 million and made up mostly of immigrants and their offspring, it is an increasingly established and vocal minority, granted extensive rights and protections even as it wins new legal, cultural, and political prerogatives.

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To: Former Dodger

There is hope, a voice of reason from the RC's.

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Finally! That image of the previous Pope kissing the koran made me wanna puke...


101 posted on 07/05/2006 4:20:07 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: Encyclopedia
Impress us with your understanding of a religion that wants to kill you....Ask about your Christian Brothers and sisters in Egypt...


102 posted on 07/05/2006 5:15:35 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Encyclopedia
You signed up today to shout at me? Cobntrary to your experience, I read a lot about Christians being massacred in Muslim countries. I am so glad you are safe. God Bless.
103 posted on 07/05/2006 5:19:26 PM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga
-oops contrary.
104 posted on 07/05/2006 5:20:02 PM PDT by tioga
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To: unionblue83

We have to seriously consider one of Cardinal DaPaolis' statements - we have been working with the Muslims for half a century and they have yet to yield any concessions on human rights!!

That's huge!! It is past time for the Muslims to recognize that they share this ball of dirt in space with others who have different ideas. Their dream of global domination is unworkable and can only lead to a catyclismic war with the west that no one wins. To date, all of the concessions have been made to the Muslims by the west.

Cardinal DaPaolis is absolutely right. It is time for the west to draw a line in the sand (literally) and require the Muslims to step up or face the consequences.

For once, someone in the Roman Catholic Church actually "gets it"!


105 posted on 07/05/2006 5:23:06 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: unionblue83; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...


106 posted on 07/05/2006 7:30:01 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: bornacatholic

THANK YOU! for posting that poster, which is modified from the original, which is World War II vintage. I was looking for it within the last month, but I couldn't find it.


107 posted on 07/05/2006 7:46:20 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you wish to go to extremes, let it be in... patience, humility, & charity." -St. Philip Neri)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Mark


108 posted on 07/05/2006 9:51:08 PM PDT by jokar (for it is by grace, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: Encyclopedia

I know that the qur'an-full-o'-qur'ap lists 99 attributes of 'alla'...and NONE of them are "LOVE" nor "MERCY"...

I know that the qur'an full of qur'ap and its deluded followers believe that Jesus Christ, the Lord, Saviour Deliverer, Messiah {meshiyach}, and only Begotten Son of G_D is nothing more than a prophet, a teacher, and a model of good moral behaviour.

If Christ was not the Son of G_d as He claimed, then He was naught but a liar and charlatan, and is thus no moral example for Christians or mooselimbs.

The sicko-wacko mohammadans - may they roast eternally in Hell should they fail to repent of their sinful blasphemy against the Most High - believe that Christ WAS NOT crucified for the sins of mankind, WAS NOT three days in the grave, DID NOT RISE from the tomb, is not as great as their paedophile false prophet, "Madman" mohammad {piss be upon him!}, and CANNOT forgive sins.

Their religion/deathcult urges them to kill Christians, Jews, and nonbelievers in alla in general...

Their religious leaders teach that it is necessary to force Christians [whom they suffer to live] to pay the 'jizya' - an exhorbitant and economically repressive 'tax' - for the privilege of living under mohammadan repression...

When Christian churches in moslem controlled lands begin to deteriorate, they are prevented from doing normal repairs, and any expansion of their buildings is OUT OF THE QUESTION.

As is the carrying of a Bible in Saudi Arabia, the wearing of Christian religious jewelry...

And many other things to which mohammadans in non-islamic lands are never subjected to by Christians or Jews...

AND that, my lying enemy/shill/open cesspool - is the unvarnished, irrefutable truth which your single hemispheric brain cannot apprehend, nor speak forth.

A.A.C.

"The Final Crusade has commenced - accept nothing but the unadulterated truth of the Most High G_D!"


109 posted on 07/05/2006 10:16:11 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: bornacatholic

Amen! The picture sums it up!


110 posted on 07/06/2006 4:25:28 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mexico: America's Palestine)
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To: Coleus

Thank you for the ping BTTT


111 posted on 07/06/2006 4:59:55 AM PDT by MattinNJ (The paleocon's paleocon.)
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To: Pyro7480

You're welcome, brother


112 posted on 07/06/2006 5:00:10 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: Puppage
Time yet for another Crusade?

I'M IN!!

Let's send this dude instead ....


113 posted on 07/06/2006 5:28:54 AM PDT by al_c
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To: al_c

Who's that...The Pummeling Pope?


114 posted on 07/06/2006 5:30:16 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

Battle Pope.


115 posted on 07/06/2006 5:32:08 AM PDT by al_c
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To: unionblue83

ping for later


116 posted on 07/06/2006 9:00:58 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Aquinasfan

INdeed, in fact He commanded us to the contrary:

Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.


117 posted on 07/06/2006 5:20:01 PM PDT by taliesin52
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Day after bump.


118 posted on 07/06/2006 5:34:04 PM PDT by ConservativeStLouisGuy (11th FReeper Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Unnecessarily Excerpt)
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To: ConservativeStLouisGuy

The Vatican Confronts Islam

“Enough now with this turning the other cheek! It’s our duty to protect ourselves.” Thus spoke Monsignor Velasio De Paolis, secretary of the Vatican’s supreme court, referring to Muslims. Explaining his apparent rejection of Jesus’ admonition to his followers to “turn the other cheek,” De Paolis noted that “The West has had relations with the Arab countries for half a century…and has not been able to get the slightest concession on human rights.”

De Paolis is hardly alone in his thinking; indeed, the Catholic Church is undergoing a dramatic shift from a decades-old policy to protect Catholics living under Muslim rule. The old methods of quiet diplomacy and muted appeasement have clearly failed. The estimated 40 million Christians in Dar al-Islam, notes the Barnabas Fund’s Patrick Sookhdeo, increasingly find themselves an embattled minority facing economic decline, dwindling rights, and physical jeopardy. Most of them, he goes on, are despised and distrusted second-class citizens, facing discrimination in education, jobs, and the courts.

These harsh circumstances are causing Christians to flee their ancestral lands for the West’s more hospitable environment. Consequently, Christian populations of the Muslim world are in a free-fall. Two small but evocative instances of this pattern: for the first time in nearly two millennia, Nazareth and Bethlehem no longer have Christian majorities.

This reality of oppression and decline stands in dramatic contrast to the surging Muslim minority of the West. Although numbering fewer than 20 million and made up mostly of immigrants and their offspring, it is an increasingly established and vocal minority, granted extensive rights and protections even as it wins new legal, cultural, and political prerogatives.

This widening disparity has caught the attention of the Roman Catholic Church, which for the first time is pointing to radical Islam, rather than the actions of Israel, as the central problem facing Christians living with Muslims.

Rumblings of this could be heard already in John Paul II’s time. For example, Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran, the Vatican equivalent of foreign minister, noted in late 2003 that “There are too many majority Muslim countries where non-Muslims are second-class citizens.” Tauran pushed for reciprocity: “Just as Muslims can build their houses of prayer anywhere in the world, the faithful of other religions should be able to do so as well.”

Catholic demands for reciprocity have grown, especially since the accession of Pope Benedict XVI in April 2005, for whom Islam is a central concern. In February, the pope emphasized the need to respect “the convictions and religious practices of others so that, in a reciprocal manner, the exercise of freely-chosen religion is truly assured to all.” In May, he again stressed the need for reciprocity: Christians must love immigrants and Muslims must treat well the Christians among them.

Lower-ranking clerics, as usual, are more outspoken. “Islam’s radicalization is the principal cause of the Christian exodus,” asserts Monsignor Philippe Brizard, director general of Oeuvre d’Orient, a French organization focused on Middle Eastern Christians. Bishop Rino Fisichella, rector of the Lateran University in Rome, advises the Church to drop its “diplomatic silence” and instead “put pressure on international organizations to make the societies and states in majority Muslim countries face up to their responsibilities.”

The Danish cartoons crisis offered a typical example of Catholic disillusionment. Church leaders initially criticized the publication of the Muhammad cartoons. But when Muslims responded by murdering Catholic priests in Turkey and Nigeria, not to speak of scores of Christians killed during five days of riots in Nigeria, the Church responded with warnings to Muslims. “If we tell our people they have no right to offend, we have to tell the others they have no right to destroy us, ” said Cardinal Angelo Sodano, the Vatican’s Secretary of State. “We must always stress our demand for reciprocity in political contacts with authorities in Islamic countries and, even more, in cultural contacts,” added Archbishop Giovanni Lajolo, its foreign minister.

Obtaining the same rights for Christians in Islamdom that Muslims enjoy in Christendom has become the key to the Vatican’s diplomacy toward Muslims. This balanced, serious approach marks a profound improvement in understanding that could have implications well beyond the Church, given how many lay politicians heed its leadership in interfaith matters. Should Western states also promote the principle of reciprocity, the results should indeed be interesting.


119 posted on 07/06/2006 5:34:37 PM PDT by ConservativeStLouisGuy (11th FReeper Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Unnecessarily Excerpt)
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To: unionblue83

Bump to the top.


120 posted on 07/06/2006 5:56:22 PM PDT by jokar (for it is by grace, http://www.gbible.org)
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