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Ken Lay has died (heart attack)
Reuters | 7/5/06

Posted on 07/05/2006 7:03:35 AM PDT by ElRushbo

cause of death unknown

TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: arkancide; assasination; criminal; crook; cultureofcorruption; damncrook; enron; enronlist; heartattack; howconvenient; immoralbastard; karma; kenlay; kennethlay; kennyboy; obituary; quietforevermore; rovianplot; thedamned; theultimatepardon; thief; wasgoingtosqueal
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To: LibertyGrrrl

Honestly, I can't muster too much sympathy for a person committing suicide, irrespective of the reasons. Not talking about the family; obviously, they deserve all the sympathy.

Did this guy really think his family was better off without him, or did he just decide he didn't care to stick around and find out?

181 posted on 07/05/2006 7:53:24 AM PDT by 1L
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To: ElRushbo

Did someone mention DU and conspiracy theories? Here's the latest:

hughee99 (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-05-06 10:17 AM
Response to Reply #21
26. Could it possibly be faked?
Edited on Wed Jul-05-06 10:18 AM by hughee99
Kenny Boy could be sitting on a beach in 2 weeks with his $$ and no one will be looking for him. Though I guess if you wanted to fake your death, heart attack wouldn't be the way to go.

182 posted on 07/05/2006 7:53:29 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Zarqawi died, liberals cried....)
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To: wideawake
Anyone who put their life savings in Enron stock instead of diversifying his portfolio is a moron who can only blame himself for his own stupidity.

On behalf of the employees, may I request that you exempt them from the moron designation? They had no choice in the matter as far as their 401k was concerned. The entire employer contribution component was in Enron stock and they couldn't sell it until they were 50 years old even if they left the company. That created an retiremement portfolio oveweighted in Enron whether they liked it or not.

183 posted on 07/05/2006 7:53:52 AM PDT by freespirited (A liberal is a person haunted by fear that someone, somewhere does not require government assistance)
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To: Inspectorette

She did indeed. :)

184 posted on 07/05/2006 7:54:39 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: FormerACLUmember
I didn't see what you said here on # 10, but I agree. See post # 177.

I'm very familiar with some police reports and other reports that avoid the suicide angle for various reasons, mostly because of an agreement. It's cool.

185 posted on 07/05/2006 7:54:39 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: wideawake
Ken Lay did not destroy many lives - he destroyed one life: his own.

Obviously you didn't work for Enron amd you weren't there. The employees could not take the money out of Enron stock to diversify it. A company rule which coincidentally did not apply to the ones making the rule (the execs).

186 posted on 07/05/2006 7:54:44 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: genxer
If i remember correctly its 2 years in force for suicide to be covered.

It's 2 years by state law in most (all?) states.

187 posted on 07/05/2006 7:55:10 AM PDT by Gondring (If "Conservatives" now want to "conserve" our Constitution away, then I must be a Preservative!)
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To: No.6
A guy who calmly defrauds his company, employees, and stockholders of billions destroys thousands.

Please. Complete hyperbole.

I've lost a job because a boss of mine made some stupid decisions. It didn't ruin my life - I found another job.

I've also lost substantial money in the markets due to fraud at companies I invested in (Tyco, anyone?) - but that didn't ruin my life either.

If losing a job or losing money ruins your life, then you're not made of very stern stuff.

Money is replaceable and jobs are replaceable.

Comparing that to what a rape victim goes through is just silly.

188 posted on 07/05/2006 7:56:30 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: ElRushbo

Sympathies to his family. I'm sure that the stresses induced by the failure of Enron, his arrest, trial and conviction all served to hasten his departure from this earth.

Hopefully, he can finally go to his rest.

189 posted on 07/05/2006 7:56:35 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: ElRushbo

Oh no, that's terrible. Prayers go out to his loved ones.

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To: NRA1995

Do you think the NYT would publish a photo of a dead Ken Lay similiar to the photos released by the government of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi -- I bet they would.

191 posted on 07/05/2006 7:58:27 AM PDT by ElRushbo (Harley Riders against Elton John)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
If you want to read more about how the power crisis was engineered, and by whom, consider this lengthy post. The NRDC is the big player, a principal backer of both Gray Davis and Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The first law of politics: Nothing big and bad goes on for very long unless both sides are dirty.

193 posted on 07/05/2006 7:59:29 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: shalom aleichem
Your web site shows Ken Lay to have contributed a great deal more to the Republicans then to Dems. I read before Enron had a near split on donations to both parties. That is interesting.
194 posted on 07/05/2006 7:59:46 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To tell you the truth, I wouldn't be surprised if this was Arkancide. Remember who was President when Enron's crimes were happening!

195 posted on 07/05/2006 7:59:51 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Famous last words: "what does Ibtz mean?")
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To: wagglebee
They didn't flee for the same reason that they did the actions which led to the need to flee: they thought that they were the smartest guys in the room (any room) and could get away with anything. They could talk or intimidate anybody into anything. They were masters of the universe.

Skilling is the consummate conniver and thinks long range. He would have had an escape plan if escape became necessary -- fake ID & passport, money in foreign banks, residence in another country, etc.

You can see by the look on his face that he doesn't anticipate going to prison and thinks that he hasn't lost yet, this is just round one.
196 posted on 07/05/2006 8:01:08 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: ElRushbo

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

197 posted on 07/05/2006 8:01:10 AM PDT by Truth-The Anti Spin
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To: VegasCowboy

I agree- that's what "Consipiracy of Fools" led me to believe also, however, these CEO's job is to keep the other captains under their tow and to keep them honest- after they let Fastow in the cookie jar the first time, it was game over.

God keep his family and their remaining holdings.

OT: Otherwise, I'd still be attending Astros games at Enron Field ( although i LOVE Minute Maid Park... )
It's better and more comfortable than BOTH stadiums in New York !

198 posted on 07/05/2006 8:01:34 AM PDT by foldspace (Tom Delay is NOT a criminal)
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"Why does Drudge always give reports and not make sure they are correct.

Because his business is sensationalized gossip. Real news reporting is an afterthought and coincidence for Matt.
199 posted on 07/05/2006 8:01:41 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Inspectorette
Lay and his cohorts were dumping their stock at the end, but the employees were not allowed to sell theirs

Employees were allowed to sell their vested shares, same as management.

Lay actually did not sell 5 million shares he owned - he sold less than 12% of his holdings.

He apparently went into the bankruptcy still believing in Enron stock, since he had sold so little of his vast holdings.

200 posted on 07/05/2006 8:01:49 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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