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American Paralyzed At Spanish Bull Festival
The Associated Press. ^ | July 10, 2006 | AP

Posted on 07/10/2006 12:26:06 PM PDT by Westlander

A North Carolina man's condition deteriorated Monday after being injured last week in an event connected to an annual festival in Pamplona, Spain.

Ray Ducharme's condition worsened since Sunday while he was in intensive care and he was receiving help breathing, Pamplona spokeswoman Begona Lopez told The Associated Press Monday. Ducharme was being treated for a collapsed lung and required a tracheotomy, according to a Web site maintained by his supporters.

The latest update on the Web site www.pray4ray.com said Monday that Ducharme would be unconscious for three days while fluid was drained from his lungs. "This is a critical time in Ray's recovery," the site said.

The 31-year-old bond trader for Bank of America was left partially paralyzed in a side event Friday on the first day of the San Fermin festival. The festival dates back to the 16th century, but Ernest Hemingway's 1926 novel, "The Sun Also Rises," made it an international event. Thousands of runners traditional white shirts and pants with red handkerchiefs dash in front of bulls that are raced through Pamplona's streets to the bull ring.

Ducharme was hurt during a side event to the bull run. He was among hundreds of people who taunted five cows in a bull ring, chasing the cows and pulling their ears and tails.

(Excerpt) Read more at clickondetroit.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: assumptionofrisk; bull; hemmingway; paralyzed; run; seenit; spanish
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To: ClearCase_guy

It depends on the bond type. Junk bond trading has all the risk of stocks.


51 posted on 07/10/2006 12:56:23 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: kcvl
It was a cow? ...not a bull?

How embarrassing.

52 posted on 07/10/2006 12:56:57 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Palladin

Seems like the correct venue for this would be a cow ring.


53 posted on 07/10/2006 12:57:50 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: Westlander

..Remember?.SLAP!!!,"stop steaming up my tail"

Doogle

54 posted on 07/10/2006 12:58:24 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF...8th TFW...Ubon Thailand...408thMMS..."69"...Night Line Delivery...AMMO!!)
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To: Westlander
Ducharme was hurt during a side event to the bull run. He was among hundreds of people who taunted five cows in a bull ring, chasing the cows and pulling their ears and tails.

Obviously the cows are smarter than Mr. Ducharme.

55 posted on 07/10/2006 12:59:05 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: ClearCase_guy

I know a few of traders and they are a pretty wild bunch. At least half are coke heads and spend a lot of their money in Vegas and at strip clubs. I can definately see at least one of them trying the bull run.


56 posted on 07/10/2006 1:01:10 PM PDT by JTHomes
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To: blueminnesota

"Step off, George."


57 posted on 07/10/2006 1:01:17 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: CDHart

Why? It does wonders for the human gene pool?


58 posted on 07/10/2006 1:02:50 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: rahbert

Poor Ray was so un-COW-ordinated that he got COW-opted during his COW-ardly deed.


59 posted on 07/10/2006 1:02:57 PM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: wideawake

My Dad used to have a cow-calving operation on his farm. A cow really is huge (especially when pregnant...they grow out, not down) and could hurt you, if she wanted to, which, fortunately I've never witnessed. Taunting cows...who are not agressive at all, and really do not want to hurt anyone, is a seriously cruel thing, in my book, even if it is an old Spanish tradition. Not cowardly, but cruel and foolish.

A bull on the other hand, especially without some cows around, really does want to hurt you...I can understand a bit why the Spaniards mess around with them. Still, all of this seems to be a tradition of medieval and even Roman colloseum origins, and, in spite of the romance of it...should be abolished. Taunting animals at all (like our ancestors in the North used to bait and taunt bears, or bulls too...) is not fit for human beings to do, period.

Still the kid was stupid...and needs our prayers.

(see Proverbs 12:10 below...)


60 posted on 07/10/2006 1:03:48 PM PDT by AnalogReigns ("A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.")
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To: Westlander
You know for all the jokes made on this thread, this is a very sad story. The guy was probably one of those thrill seekers who like the rush from "living on the edge" and "experiencing life". Well now he can look forward to the next 50 years experiencing life on the edge of his bed and instead of watching the wonders of the world, he can spend hours each day watching the ceiling. I was a live-in attendant for a quadraplegic and while he coped with situation as best he could, it's not a life I would wish on anyone. What a damn shame.
61 posted on 07/10/2006 1:04:12 PM PDT by PackerBronco
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To: KJC1

Ditto!!!!!


62 posted on 07/10/2006 1:05:11 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: Westlander
Oops. Sorry about that. The website has the pictures on a rotating basis. It changes each time you access the page. Let me try again...perhaps he was Jumping with the Cows and got hurt. Here's an image...

Click here.

63 posted on 07/10/2006 1:05:12 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: JTHomes

That's why their trading is VERY closely monitored. By people who don't do idiotic stuff like this.


64 posted on 07/10/2006 1:05:39 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Westlander
Maybe this is him in mid-leap...?

Click here.

65 posted on 07/10/2006 1:06:38 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: kcvl

You dont need legs to trade bonds, do you?


66 posted on 07/10/2006 1:06:50 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: PackerBronco

If this guy survives, he would do well to set himself up with a laptop with Internet connection and video capability, and devote himself to persuading other people who are thinking of doing this, not to.


67 posted on 07/10/2006 1:08:21 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: BurbankKarl

I gather you haven't spent much time around bond-trading desks . . .


68 posted on 07/10/2006 1:09:34 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: PackerBronco

For me at least, it is not his "thrill-seeking" that bothers me. It's his participation in a cruel activity. For example: getting seriously injured while skydiving versus getting seriously injured while beating your dog.

One thing I will agree with you on is that it's a shame he decided to partake in this, but he didn't care how the bulls and cows would fare in his quest to get his "thrills."


69 posted on 07/10/2006 1:09:58 PM PDT by KJC1 (Have a hangnail? Weeds in your garden? Bush's fault? DU needs you!)
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To: KJC1
It's his participation in a cruel activity.

Oh definitely. Of course, slaughtering cows to make Big Macs is also cruel, but this is cruelty for cruelty's sake. There's nothing redeeming about it and serves no purpose.

70 posted on 07/10/2006 1:14:07 PM PDT by PackerBronco
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To: Screamname
I do believe this is a picture of the guy in off-work activity:

Photography by Jon Dimis

71 posted on 07/10/2006 1:16:16 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Neoliberalnot


I had my left leg fractured from a kick from a 350 lb Charlois,it required 2 screws,on crutches for seven months.

Farmers don`t play games with bulls & cows, they can kill or cripple a person easily.

I do enjoy reading Hemmingway,great American writer.That running of the bulls is crazy,bulls and alcohol filled young men.


72 posted on 07/10/2006 1:16:43 PM PDT by 31M20RedDevil ( Washington Times:unbelievable that an American paper would help terrorists.)
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

Knucklehead kid with dumb-looking goatee gets gored

This guy had sown the wind and now he is reaping the whirlwind. Why would someone want to taunt barnyard animals that are five to fifteen times their weight and just as fast? Most of my sorrow is for his family who were unable to properly beat some sense into this kid a decade ago.

~ Blue Jays ~

73 posted on 07/10/2006 1:18:10 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Westlander

I'm sure he'd love the challenge. He's exxxxxxtreme!


74 posted on 07/10/2006 1:21:06 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (This message has been edited to meet FCC standards)
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To: Westlander

Bulls have horns? Who knew?


75 posted on 07/10/2006 1:23:23 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: AnalogReigns
Ummm, can someone please explain to the AP the differences between bulls and cows?
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Take the entire AP office to a cattle farm.

Have the whole office get out in the field and taunt the cow.

Then have them get out in the field and taunt the bull.
76 posted on 07/10/2006 1:31:43 PM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

....and in turn 3 Racin' Ray has hit the wall. That's what happens when you get caught up in the marbles Darrel....


77 posted on 07/10/2006 1:40:51 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: b4its2late

He's from BofA in Charlotte, NC


78 posted on 07/10/2006 1:42:00 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath
Oh, I thought he was from Bath, NY..... Must be the other guy that got (Al)gored......
79 posted on 07/10/2006 1:49:04 PM PDT by b4its2late (Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.)
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To: Locomotive Breath

Or maybe originally from Bath NY...


80 posted on 07/10/2006 1:53:57 PM PDT by b4its2late (Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.)
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To: Westlander
FWIW, here are my 2 rules for dealing with large animals:

You may either 1) Kill them swiftly and humanely in order to eat them -or- 2)Leave them alone

Deviating from these rules can cause serious injury or death......

81 posted on 07/10/2006 2:13:57 PM PDT by Panzerfaust
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Freggin` bull fighting is insane. The whole purpose of it is for the the bull "fighter" to avoid the bull while slowly, and I mean slooowly, bleed it to death. My father saw one years ago in the 1950`s, and he said it went on forever.. you can see the bulls muscles cramp up from lack of blood and oxegen which must hurt like hell, not to mention that the bull basically is in a panic state the whole time because some little Spanish prick won`t stop sticking him. They need meat, freggin` off the thing already, don`t torture it. That`s why I have no sympathy whatsoever for these a-holes who get off this and get messed up. Freggin` bull squashes them, tough!

French Bullfighting though is another matter...I heard 99.9999% of the time the chicken wins.

What they should do is create "liberal fighting"...Throw a liberal in a ring and have a picture of Bush on a cape, and when the liberal charges, you kick him in the `effin ass! OLE!!!

82 posted on 07/10/2006 2:17:14 PM PDT by Screamname ("We can try - to understand - the New York Times' - effect on man." - Stayin` Alive by the Bee Gees)
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To: Panzerfaust
Hi Panzer-

Your succinct guideline for interacting with large animals sounds about right.

~ Blue Jays ~

83 posted on 07/10/2006 2:22:48 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Westlander

Guy's an idiot...


84 posted on 07/10/2006 2:56:17 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Screamname

ROFL at the French "bullfighter".


85 posted on 07/10/2006 6:45:26 PM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: Screamname

No "se Habla Espanol"?


86 posted on 07/10/2006 6:46:38 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: Panzerfaust

You have made my Potential Tag List (see my home page)!!!

A rare honor not lightly given! :)


87 posted on 07/10/2006 6:51:04 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Is that Superman?


88 posted on 07/10/2006 10:12:38 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Westlander

Who pays for these beeves?


89 posted on 07/10/2006 10:15:53 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"It does wonders for the human gene pool?"

But not much for the tortured animals.

carolyn

90 posted on 07/11/2006 5:05:38 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: CDHart

I realized after I wrote that, that it may have sounded like I was in favor of bullfighting, which I am most certainly not. However, the milder garbage that this dolt engaged in, namely pulling on the ears and tails of cows, would seem to do no real damage to the cows, while rather effectively putting the dolt out of commission, and most likely out of the gene pool. The passing annoyance to the cows seems like an acceptable cost, for the much greater benefit.


91 posted on 07/11/2006 8:47:23 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: freedumb2003
You have made my Potential Tag List (see my home page)!!!

A rare honor not lightly given! :)

Thank you! I appreciate the honor!

92 posted on 07/12/2006 6:18:12 AM PDT by Panzerfaust
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To: AnalogReigns

Cows can be just as dangerous as bulls, make no mistake about that. The bulls will be a little bigger but the cows can have horns and will attack. We have cows that you cannot turn your back on and bulls who just want you to scratch their heads.


93 posted on 07/12/2006 6:27:42 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Westlander

Datwin nominee...good for the bull. Ridiculous sport that should be outlawed.


94 posted on 07/12/2006 6:30:53 AM PDT by cyborg (then comes baby in the baby carriage)
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To: Westlander
I feel bad for the guy but people who screw around with 1,000 pound animals are just begging to get hurt.
95 posted on 07/12/2006 6:33:25 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Ditter

I thought it was just bulls at the running of the BULLS. The additional cow pen is bizarre. Note to self. Don't pull a stressed cow's ear.


96 posted on 07/12/2006 6:35:49 AM PDT by cyborg (then comes baby in the baby carriage)
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To: cyborg

I thought the cows in the pen was a little strange too. I guess it is for people who don't want to run but want close contact with the animals. This guy got more contact than he wanted.


97 posted on 07/12/2006 6:39:59 AM PDT by Ditter
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