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How The FBI Misled The Public
WorldNetDaily ^ | 12 July 2006 | Robert Donaldson

Posted on 07/13/2006 9:04:26 AM PDT by Hal1950

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1 posted on 07/13/2006 9:04:30 AM PDT by Hal1950
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To: Hal1950

zzzzzz..


2 posted on 07/13/2006 9:10:25 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: Hal1950

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3 posted on 07/13/2006 9:11:10 AM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Hal1950

I don't agree or disagree.

I would note when I dropped flares and other countermeasures, I also did some extreme manuvers with which the flying public would not comport.

Accordingly, such countermeasures would be of limited use.

Really the only viable defense is a guarded perimeter and steep approaches.


4 posted on 07/13/2006 9:12:49 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Hal1950

Thanks! A very interesting read.


5 posted on 07/13/2006 9:13:09 AM PDT by utcamper
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To: Hal1950
Leaving politics aside,

This was the Clinton era. Can't do that.

6 posted on 07/13/2006 9:16:56 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d, N0t Y0urs | NYT:Jihadi Journal)
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To: Hal1950

This happened on July 17th -- my birthday :(


7 posted on 07/13/2006 9:21:30 AM PDT by Stepan12
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To: Hal1950

this piece doesn't mention the theories out there at the time re the Navy's training exercises in the area when this happened.....


8 posted on 07/13/2006 9:29:40 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Hal1950
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b58858c35db.htm

9 posted on 07/13/2006 9:32:28 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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govt. lies bump


10 posted on 07/13/2006 9:33:20 AM PDT by the crow (I'm from the government. I'm here to help.)
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What are hundreds of eyewitnesses compared to the sleazy machinations of the Clinton administration?

Evidently, the answer is... "a distraction."

11 posted on 07/13/2006 9:38:09 AM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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I don't know, this piece seems to make the case that a missile could have shot down the plane but doesn't present much evidence one did. Just because something could have happened doesn't translate into that it actually happened. Yes the eyewitness testimony is interesting, but I think the piece is too quick to dismiss the possibility that what they were seeing was the flaming aircraft rather than something coming off the surface of the earth. And the article doesn't mention the strong evidence that shows the plane went down because of faulty wiring in the AC system. The case that this is what brought down the aircraft is a strong one.

The explosive pattern of the aircraft parts just are not consistent with an explosion from a missile, but much more consistent with an internal explosion as I understand it. I'd buy an on-board bomb easier than a missile.

Some questions that need to be answered:

A) Has a terrorist group ever claimed to have shot down this aircraft?

B) Do the batteries for Stingers last as long as 7 years? My understanding is that they have a very short life. Thus the Stingers we supplied to the Afghan resistance up until 1989 would likely not have been usuable by 1996 and we did not supply them with extra batteries. As I understand it, batteries for Stingers are only good for a few months. I'm open to contrary information from anyone who may know.

C) If the batteries could not last that long, then the question needs to be asked as to where they could have gotten other Stingers.

D) Any terrorists who shot down the plane would not have been able to count on a clean get-away and likely would have left the Stinger launchers behind to facilitate their escape. They never could have guessed they'd have such an easy get-away and that there wouldn't be clear evidence of an aircraft shoot down and now close-by witnesses. I think they'd have been prepared for a manhunt and the need to not have any evidence on their persons. Thus I don't think they'd have been eager to carry off their Stinger launchers, especially back across an international border. So why were there no launchers ever found?

Just some questions. I'm not claiming I know the aircraft wasn't shot down, but I just don't see a compelling case yet that it was. Like I say, I could buy a bomb on the aircraft, but I am just not convinced of a missile.


12 posted on 07/13/2006 9:41:31 AM PDT by MikeA
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Anyone remember Elmer and his multimedia Anti-800 shootdown spamload? This pretty well takes that garbage out and dumps it. A shoulder fired missile seems like a plausibility. Let's hear from a whistle blower, and find out just what really happened. It is high time that we did.
13 posted on 07/13/2006 9:43:34 AM PDT by Richard Axtell
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I was suspicious of several crashes going back to the 80s. Just my personal conspiracy theory, I don't claim to be an expert. But this was just too obvious.

That one over Queens was pretty fishy too.
14 posted on 07/13/2006 9:45:50 AM PDT by AlexandriaDuke (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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To: Hal1950

I misplaced my tinfoil hat after Clinton left office.


15 posted on 07/13/2006 10:03:06 AM PDT by sportutegrl (A person is a person, no matter how small. (Dr. Seuss))
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To: the crow
just believe
16 posted on 07/13/2006 10:10:13 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Rugged individualists of the world, unite!)
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To: MikeA
Re the battery life, and the whole unclaimed missile thing: this interesting site mentions the finding of a fully armed ready-to-fire French Mistral MANPADS missile in Maryland, 1994. It was sitting on its tripod directly under a busy American air route. I haven't verified the source, but we probably shouldn't get hung up on Stingers just because the Feds did.
17 posted on 07/13/2006 10:13:53 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: MikeA

You haven't done much reading on this case, it seems, other than the New York Times.


18 posted on 07/13/2006 10:35:56 AM PDT by John Valentine
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19 posted on 07/13/2006 10:37:32 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: John Valentine

Why do people of Free Republic have to get so nasty if a contrary opinion is expressed? I never claimed to have had all the facts. And I never read the New York Times. And I freely admit I've not done extensive reading on the topic but I have done enough to know there's nothing like an open and shut case for a missile shoot down. But as I expressed in my post, I'm open to contrary information. But instead what I got was nastiness rather than substance. People like you make Free Republic really unpleasant sometimes. Why is any contrary view personalized and treated with such hostility, especially on a matter like this where there are no clear answers?? Thanks for helping to make Free Republic a little less fun.


20 posted on 07/13/2006 10:39:01 AM PDT by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're angry is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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