Posted on 07/18/2006 8:12:32 AM PDT by BerlinStrausbaugh
The war over immigration reform among conservatives continues, and, as in most wars, truth has been one of the first casualties.
Those who disagree with the hardening positions of people who would adopt more restrictive policies or with people who favor less restrictive measures are attacked as know-nothings, traitors or handmaidens of evil forces out to destroy the America we live in.
Many conservatives reacted angrily to the way the Bush administration tried to demonize opposition to the presidents quasi-amnesty and guest-worker proposals when they were first introduced. Critics at the time were characterized as racists or nativists more interested in trashing Mexicans than in a rational approach to immigration reform. Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) of Colorado was semipublicly horsewhipped by White House officials and told never again to darken the presidents door.
It was a foolish way to begin an important debate and was quickly abandoned, as even the most ardent supporters of the Bush approach realized that the critics were speaking for millions of Americans who were troubled by the presidents plan. Since then, while sticking to its guns in advocating what it likes to call a comprehensive solution to the immigration problem, the administration has moved border security up as the first and most important element of any plan.
The problem is that rhetoric wont do it, for the simple reason that, having been there and done that in 1986, people want to see results. Whether they might support other elements of a comprehensive plan, that support wont materialize until they see evidence of a real commitment to gain control of our borders.
As the debate opened several years ago, those seeking more restrictionist or rational policies were unequivocal in acknowledging the importance of legal immigration and rejected as farcical the charge that what they really want are not secure but closed borders and a massive national effort to round up the illegals here today and send them packing. But positions have hardened in the days since.
I count myself among those who believe that we must first secure our borders and that we should make it uncomfortable for those here illegally to work or take advantage of the perks that go with being a U.S. citizen. I oppose nonresident tuition for their children and would change the law so that those born of illegals on U.S. soil wouldnt automatically become eligible for citizenship. I support strong employer sanctions, and I oppose the sort of amnesty proposed by Sen John McCain (R-Ariz.).
At the same time, I recognize, as do most Americans, that we benefit from legal immigration and should continue to serve as a beacon to those seeking a better life because in doing so they can improve our lives as well as their own. The problem is not where immigrants come from but whether we require those seeking citizenship to learn and commit to what it means to be an American and whether we welcome those we need without overwhelming our ability to assimilate or absorb them.
The vehemence of the recent attack on Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) for trying to come up with a plan that would mandate border security first, impose heavy sanctions on employers who hire illegals and require them to leave the country if they ever hope to work here legally shocked me. Tom Tancredo attacked Pence before he could know what was in the plan, Pat Buchanan says that his disagreement with him and his friends signals the end of Pences career, and some of Pences colleagues whom he counts among his strongest friends and supporters are looking at him these days as if hes some sort of traitor.
Actually, thats exactly what Buchanan thinks he is; a traitor to the cause and a part of the secret plan to grant amnesty to illegals. Those of us who actually had kind things to say about Pences approach were cited in his attack as indicators that the fix is in.
Pences approach is not perfect, and he has been modifying it to answer legitimate substantive criticism. Thats the way things are supposed to work. Its the way serious public figures go about the business of solving problems and developing sound public policy.
Its too early to say whether Pences willingness to tackle one of the most serious and politically dangerous policy questions facing the nation from a conservative perspective will lead to an acceptable solution, but, unlike many of his critics, Mike Pence must be counted among Washingtons most serious public figures.
Mr. Keene is the chairman of the American Conservative Union and a managing associate with the Carmen Group, a Washington, D.C.-based governmental-affairs firm.
The above op-ed is also available at http://www.conservative.org/columnists/keene/060718dk.asp.
Sorry, sink, but it is, no matter how much you and others pretend otherwise. What really matters to illegals is being allowed to stay in this country, instead of being deported the way current laws call for. They typically paid thousands to coyotes to get here - what's another couple grand to keep from getting sent back?
It's amnesty until it gets run through the Clintonian parse-o-matic.
The penalty for illegal entry into the United States is deportation along with an order not to return.
Anything other than deportation with an order not to return is amnesty.
Doesn't matter how you try to slice it any differently.
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Every poll that includes a guest worker program in any of its questions finds that these programs are supported by a majority along with border enforcement.
"identical guest worker program"
They are opposite, not identical, on the issue of amnesty.
If you read Section 145 of Tancredo's proposed H.R. 3534, posted above, you will note: "Repeal of Amnesty Provision" that is, of section 249 of the Immigration & Nationality Act (8 USC 1259).
Another poster who refuses to deal with reality.
I don't believe they'll stick their necks out like that again.
Not PC!
On the contrary, I'm not the one trying to re-define a term.
You are the one claiming anything less that what the law calls for is not amnesty.
You don't get to change definitions just to suit your arguement.
Link please.
We really need to have a source for those statistics before we pass them around or the obc will use it to discredit the anti illegal position.
....I agree....if the borders were really enforced and done properly, I've always been of the mind that a coherent guest worker program would be ok if we issues ID cards etc etc.....but true amnesty I would be against....I see Pence's plan at least closer to a reasonable compromise then Bush's or McCain's plan
Don't forget number 5: there will be no limit on the number of "guest" workers admitted for at least 3 years after the plan is initiated.
Great. No amnesty there, no way, definitely not.
I call it exactly what it is, sink.
but Pence recognizes reality and most of those who insist on "sending them all back" do not.
Really? How do we know trying to get them to self-deport will not work until we try it?
Every poll that includes a guest worker program in any of its questions finds that these programs are supported by a majority along with border enforcement.
I wonder how many of those who support a guest worker program are aware of the problems that Europe's long-standing guest worker programs have created there?
If we truly need more workers, make them legal green-card immigrants. We don't need a two-tier society.
Exactly. Pence knows that HR4437, by itself, is a non-starter in the Senate (the Senate refused to even take it up). So, he's combined 4437 with a guest worker program as the basis for negotiations and compromise.
Compromise is how politics is done and legislation is crafted, but it's a dirty word around here.
No intelligent, thinking person is dumb enough to have the mindset of "just send'em all back".......that's just a red herring thrown up by the useful idiots from the open border crowd to skew the argument. All we need is border and employer enforcement plus a severe cutback in all the welfare services (and ID fraud connected with it) and in short order the vast majority will DEPORT themselves.
Hmm by that logic ALL words are now meaningless since they are being used!
susie
...and all those stupid idiots who have been saying that illegal immigration could cause the GOP a problem were... RIGHT!
"The true rule in determining to embrace or reject anything is not whether it have any evil in it but whether it has more evil than good. There are few things wholly evil and wholly good. About everything is an inseparable compound of the two."
Abraham Lincoln, on `Compromise'
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