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Immigration and Usurpation: Elites, Power, and the People’s Will
Center for Immigration Studies ^ | July 2006 | Fredo Arias-King

Posted on 07/19/2006 9:28:43 AM PDT by AppleButter

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To: raybbr
While Democratic legislators we spoke with welcomed the Latino vote, they seemed more interested in those immigrants and their offspring as a tool to increase the role of the government in society and the economy.

Anchor babies are the target of the left. They know that baby juanita and juan are going to vote in rewards for padre and madre when they become eligible to vote. The anchor baby vote will be the death of the U.S.

A lot of anchor babies are already voting. The real downside is that a lot of these anchor babies' parents were granted amnesty years ago. The past 20 years worth of anchor babies are getting ready to vote and when the scamnesty goes through, we will be done. They will all be legal and elligible to vote. The republican party is a hollow shell. It's there just for looks, like the foam on a beer, it is all fluff and no substance.

61 posted on 11/11/2006 7:40:33 AM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: raybbr
While Democratic legislators we spoke with welcomed the Latino vote, they seemed more interested in those immigrants and their offspring as a tool to increase the role of the government in society and the economy.

I meant to add something else to my previous post to you.

'to increase the role of government in society and the economy'.

With the increase of illegals 4.4% (average) and 7% unemployment in some areas, I'm not sure how the government thinks they will be able to create jobs for everyone.

62 posted on 11/11/2006 7:54:40 AM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: varon
I would add that Mexico is a satrap ruled by a despotic government-of-the-wealthy

............The same can almost be said of USA!

There's a reason for that, they are deliberately trying to emulate them.

63 posted on 11/11/2006 8:30:19 AM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: Netizen

It is an historical fact that the ruling class of just any society fear the middle class and seek ways of curtailing the growth and power of a middle class. The genius of the American system uptil LBJ was that it encouraged a ruling middle class! Unique in all history. Well it has taken the elite 200 years but they have finally figured out how to kill the American middle class and it uppity Constitution.


64 posted on 11/11/2006 8:54:57 AM PST by jpsb
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To: snowsislander
I would have used the phrase "unseemly haste" rather than "quickly" except that truly President Bush has been fixated on this subject, and it was certainly no surprise that Mr. Snow broached the subject so quickly. I find their eagerness incomprehensible: legal immigrants are made to jump through numerous hoops, but these people who are committing blatantly criminal acts are going to be made citizens lickety-split?

We need to prevent this.

What about filing suit? Too bad the ACLU represents the illegals. /sarcasm

We need a good Constitutional lawyer. If we can present a reasonable case outlining various ways that the government (all branches) is abandoning its constitutional duties, the court could stop the bill long enough for more organized resistance to develop against it.

65 posted on 11/11/2006 9:27:27 AM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: AppleButter

Usurpation is always with us. Take note of who is attempting to usurpt what. It's going to be a lengthy list.


66 posted on 11/11/2006 9:30:21 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: A. Pole
Why? It is simple. Law abiding people are less useful.

They want people that don't think. We used to joke or comment about how the dems wanted to keep blacks on the plantation. Little did we know that it was both parties that wanted to keep all of us on the plantation.

67 posted on 11/11/2006 9:36:11 AM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: AppleButter

BUMP!


68 posted on 11/11/2006 9:57:08 AM PST by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: taxed2death
Shamnesty. Pushing for 20+ million future dumocrats and their dependents to have a "pathway to citizenship. GWB will succeed in dismantling what is left of the Republican party, piece by piece, bit by bit. It's simple mathematics....look what happens in 2012, 2016, 2020.

We don't even have to wait that long. 2008

Anyone out there have a plan to make 30+ million future republicans and their dependents materialize out of thin air?

Instead why not try and preven tthe present scam and force the government to deal with the lawbreakers already in our country?

69 posted on 11/11/2006 10:14:30 AM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: Netizen
Instead why not try and preven tthe present scam and force the government to deal with the lawbreakers already in our country?

Thats the answer!
70 posted on 11/11/2006 10:17:29 AM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: taxed2death
"Eroding" makes it sound as if it is a natural process. This is happening with the support of both political parties. It is nothing less than an assault on the taxpayer / citizens of the US by elites.

You're absolutely right, of course and it is an assault on the taxpayer/citizens. It is also discriminatory of other nations whose people try to immigrate lawfully and it disenfranchises American citizens that could be doing those jobs. Let's face it, if we didn't have 20-30% of our paychecks going to taxes, we too could afford to work for lesser wages.

What happens when scamnesty goes through? Does the government really think that the illegals WANT to keep those jobs? No. They don't really want those jobs either, but, just like American citizens that used to do those before they were taken by illegals, those jobs are for people that are in between jobs, or even new to the work force like teenagers, or people that are just traveling through. Some people still like to drift around and 'find themselves'.

At any rate, once legalized the newly legal immigrants are going to *gasp* want to get better jobs and being legal they will need to start paying taxes and OH MY that paycheck is going to dwindle and not be enough. They will need better paying jobs, like the 4-7% of already unemployed citizens.

So, the newly legal immigrants move up and another flood of illegals start to poor over the border to fill the openings left in 'jobs that Americans won't do BS' category.

It's time to end the cycle.

71 posted on 11/11/2006 10:49:42 AM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
We haven't reached that point yet. There are still things that can be done. However, there's no doubt that this can't go on indefinitely without undermining the nation.

No disrespect intended, but I think we are perilously close to the point of no return.

72 posted on 11/11/2006 11:24:19 AM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: Netizen

"So, the newly legal immigrants move up and another flood of illegals start to poor over the border to fill the openings left in 'jobs that Americans won't do BS' category."

You forgot to mention the criminal activity that so many illegal aliens engage in. I suppose they're committing crimes that Americans won't commit.


73 posted on 11/11/2006 11:27:04 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Corporatism is not conservatism)
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To: Liz; All
......."These scofflaws and criminals do not only want American jobs, they also want all the rights of American Citizens with the intent to inflict upon us the failed customs, politics, and ignorance that frame the foundation of Mexico’s class-conscious tyranny, universal lawlessness and eternal poverty"........

They're getting their wish, thanks to our government who allows it.

If anyone is interested in seeing a typical "work camp" of illegal aliens in California, you know, those people who gather our crops, go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBHs0sETasY

Be sure to have an old pan ready, it will make you sick.

74 posted on 11/11/2006 11:27:48 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: jpsb
It is an historical fact that the ruling class of just any society fear the middle class and seek ways of curtailing the growth and power of a middle class. The genius of the American system uptil LBJ was that it encouraged a ruling middle class! Unique in all history. Well it has taken the elite 200 years but they have finally figured out how to kill the American middle class and it uppity Constitution.

We really need to try and prevent it. Make a list of all the ways in which it is unconstitutional and discriminatory.

75 posted on 11/11/2006 11:59:54 AM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: janetgreen

If anyone is interested in seeing a typical "work camp" of illegal aliens in California, you know, those people who gather our crops, go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBHs0sETasY

Be sure to have an old pan ready, it will make you sick.

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Thanks, I'll get my barf bag and check it out.


76 posted on 11/11/2006 12:03:35 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Thats the answer!

Any suggestions on how to go about doing that?

77 posted on 11/11/2006 1:09:46 PM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
You forgot to mention the criminal activity that so many illegal aliens engage in. I suppose they're committing crimes that Americans won't commit.

You're right, that's something else would could point out. Anyone else stealing someone else's identity by using their social security numbers would be in deep trouble, yet the government turns a blind eye to illegals that do it. Identity theft should be punished not rewarded.

78 posted on 11/11/2006 1:50:03 PM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: Netizen

Yes I do.


79 posted on 11/11/2006 3:42:32 PM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

What's your suggestion?


80 posted on 11/11/2006 4:12:01 PM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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