The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization
by Richard Firestone, Allen West, and Simon Warwick-Smith
Posted on 07/24/2006 12:03:03 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake
The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization
by Richard Firestone, Allen West, and Simon Warwick-Smith
When you're done reading, it let me know what you think.
I've read just a bit of the beginning so far, and found those iron and radioactive pellets embedded in chert, and pointing to a northern impact, quite interesting.
Topping and Firestone have split over this, which probably explains why Topping (the discoverer) isn't a co-author:
Update: Article Questioning Radiocarbon-dating Accuracy Draws Fire from Scientists
by Mammoth Trumpet Staff
March 2002
Volume 17, Number 2
http://www.centerfirstamericans.org/mt.php?a=61
"After the year that has elapsed since the article was published, however, the authors no longer agree about the events theorized in their article. Firestone's reply is printed below. Topping declined to respond, pending new experimental data."
You will give us your best review, eh Civ???
Sortof of an aside, but could not the area in question(around the great lakes) have been under several hundred/thousand feet of glacier at the time of this event/impact? IOW, if a comet/whatever hit a huge block of ice, what would have been the result? Amongst other things, lots of ice cubes, with some really big ones, thrown around downstream. Just thinking out loud -- so to speak.
I'm not sure, since I've not read much of it. I'll review it on Amazon when I finish -- caution, it could be a year or more. ;')
Did comet start deadly cold snap?
Canada.com | Monday, May 14, 2007 | Margaret Munro
Posted on 05/16/2007 6:00:33 PM EDT by Mike Darancette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834769/posts
Diamonds tell tale of comet that killed off the cavemen
Guardian | 5-20-07 | Robin McKie
Posted on 05/20/2007 7:50:33 PM EDT by Renfield
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1836898/posts
Catastrophic Comet Chilled and Killed Ice Age Beasts (and Clovis people)
Live Science | 05/21/07 | Jeanna Bryner
Posted on 05/22/2007 1:16:48 AM EDT by TigerLikesRooster
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1837610/posts
Oregon Researchers Involved In New Clovis-Age Impact Theory (More)
Eureka Alert
Posted on 05/23/2007 5:30:19 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1838660/posts
Comet May Have Doomed Mammoths
Red Orbit | 5-26-07 | Betsy Mason
Posted on 05/26/2007 9:12:53 AM EDT by Renfield
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1840136/posts
Ice Age Ends Smashingly: Did A Comet Blow Up Over Eastern Canada? (More) (Carolina Bays)
Science News | 6-1-2007 | Sid Perkins
Posted on 06/02/2007 6:14:23 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1843831/posts
Comet Theory Collides With Clovis Research, May Explain Disappearance of Ancient People
University of South Carolina(USC News) | June 28, 2007 | Staff
Posted on 08/04/2007 2:29:34 AM EDT by ForGod’sSake
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1876220/posts
NSF Press Release:
Comet May Have Exploded Over North America 13,000 Years Ago
National Science Foundation Press Release | August 14, 2007 | Cheryl Dybas, NSF
Posted on 08/15/2007 8:32:04 PM EDT by baynut
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1881784/posts
Research Team Says Extraterrestrial Impact To Blame For Ice Age Extinctions (More)
Eureka Alert | Northern Arizona University - Lisa Nelson
Posted on 09/25/2007 3:58:19 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1902003/posts
Cosmic blast may have killed off megafauna
Scientists say early humans doomed, too
Boston Globe | September 27, 2007 | Colin Nickerson
Posted on 09/25/2007 9:45:11 PM EDT by baynut
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1902154/posts
Cosmic blast may have killed off megafauna
Scientists say early humans doomed, too
Boston Globe | September 25, 2007 | Colin Nickerson
Posted on 09/26/2007 9:11:48 AM EDT by baynut
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1902361/posts
Evidence for an extraterrestrial impact 12,900 years ago
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, October 9, 2007, Vol. 104 | Setember 27, 2007 | R. B. Firestone, et. al.
Posted on 09/30/2007 1:14:28 PM EDT by baynut
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1904474/posts
The End of Eden: The Comet That Changed Civilization
amazon | Oct. 8, 2007
Posted on 10/09/2007 2:47:23 AM EDT by doug from upland
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1908525/posts
Pre-Adamic civilization did destroy themselves...most likely nuclear...
Splain yerself.
Nice compilation Civ!
That was an "oops".
Well, is it at least in the cue???
Inquiring minds and all...
BP is an oil company which some think is British because it says British in the name, but it began as a German oil company that actually had no oil and that was named British for its London office.
Is it just a coincidence that the date is eerily close to the estimated date of the Lake Agassiz great flood?
“Estimated date eerily close to the Lake Agassiz great flood.”
Actually 4 to 5,000 years is not exactly close. I suspect that if there was a boloid event around 13,000 years ago, that after a time, freezing built up especially around the edges and you had an “ice dam” effect wherein the Lake had several thousand years to grow until it busted out. There is also a similar event that apparently took place out west, (the Missoula Scablands, I think is the name, someone correct me if I got the name or place wrong) which had a very interesting program on public television. I think the age for that, and it was multiple events, was closer to Lake Agassiz than to the earlier “event?”.
I've done some reading about Agassiz and it's not altogether clear(to me) there was a catastrophic flood from Agassiz. There is abundant evidence of a gradual lowering of the lake level over a long period of time as the ice sheets retreated. I suppose it's possible, maybe even likely, there was a final dramatic emptying of the lake when the last of the glacial dams gave way.
Missoula on the other hand, apparently(?) had numerous fillings/emptyings during the last ice age. I don't know how that was determined, but the folks that study this stuff seem to believe it.
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Someone mentioned this the other day, in another topic, see, I work on things: Gothenburg Magnetic Excursion [search]
(check out quite a number of videos in the search results, I didn't watch any, yet, but figure they'll be good and nuts)
The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization
by Richard Firestone, Allen West, and Simon Warwick-Smith
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