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Bill Press gets taken in by Lovenstein IQ hoax
billpresssshow.com ^ | July 18, 2006 | Bill Press

Posted on 07/25/2006 1:02:53 PM PDT by lowbridge

From the page of Bill Press' podcast website:

July 18, 2006 Parting Shot

Nate wrote this at 8:56 am:

In six years in the White House, George W. Bush has screwed up so many things, you have to wonder: Is he unlucky or incompetent?

Well, now we know.

Thanks to the Lovenstein Institute of Scranton, Pennsylvania, which just released a study of the IQ of twelve American presidents, over the last 50 years. And the results are – well, not surprising.

The average IQ of six Republican presidents – Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush 41, and Bush 43 – was 115.5. President Nixon topped the list, at 155.

The average IQ of six Democratic presidents – Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, and Clinton – was 156. With President Clinton leading the class at 182.

The smartest president of the last 50 years?

You guessed it: Bill Clinton, with his 182 IQ.

The least intelligent president of the last 50 years?

You guessed it again: George W. Bush, with his rock bottom IQ of 91: seven points lower than his Daddy.

So now we know. Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Social Security, Medicare, Stem Cells, FEMA, the deficit, immigration…

The reason George Bush has screwed up in so many areas the last six years.

He’s not just incompetent. He’s just plain dumb – the dumbest president in the last 50 years. And, probably, the dumbest president ever!

That’s my parting shot for today. I’m Bill Press.

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(Yes, his article also accepts readers comments)

Also archived on google

Be sure to get screen caps before he censors it! :-)


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1 posted on 07/25/2006 1:02:55 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

It's no phonier than 90% of what the MSM barfs up each day.


2 posted on 07/25/2006 1:05:04 PM PDT by pissant
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To: lowbridge

I'm sure Bill Press will listen to you.


3 posted on 07/25/2006 1:05:16 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: lowbridge

Gosh, even Snopes got that one right.

Could Press be repeating this knowing it isn't true?


4 posted on 07/25/2006 1:06:29 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: lowbridge

The Lovenstein Institute IQ Report

In July 2001 an e-mail (see below) began to circulate around the internet claiming that the Lovenstein Institute, a think-tank based in Scranton, Pennsylvania, had conducted research into the IQ of all the Presidents of the past 50 years and concluded that George W. Bush ranked at the bottom, with an IQ of only 91.

This news quickly gained attention from the international media. The London Guardian broke the story on July 19, and on August 26 Garry Trudeau featured the report in his Doonesbury comic strip.

Unfortunately both Trudeau and the Guardian had fallen for a hoax.

The e-mail had originated as a joke on a website called linkydinky.com. In its original version, the joke was pretty obvious. For instance, Linkydinky.com cited the Pennsylvania Court Observer as its source for the news, noting that this newspaper only had a circlation of five readers. Furthermore, it described Dr. Lovenstein as "living in a mobile home in Scranton, Pennsylvania."

As the joke made its way through people's inboxes, these textual clues were stripped away, until in the final version of the email it sounded as if the Lovenstein Institute was an actual research organization.

Once they learned of their mistake, both Trudeau and the Guardian published retractions.
5 posted on 07/25/2006 1:06:55 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: lowbridge

Bill just proved that he's as gullible as every other pseudo intellectual that fell for the faked Lovenstein study on the basis that it seemed to use the right kind of language.

Just wait until he uses the defense, "It may be fake, but I believe it is 100% accurate."


6 posted on 07/25/2006 1:07:27 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: lowbridge
With President Clinton leading the class at 182.

BS! i'd be suprised if he could get 125

7 posted on 07/25/2006 1:07:33 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: lowbridge
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.htm
9 posted on 07/25/2006 1:08:16 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: lowbridge

About the authors : Cristina L. Borenstein and Lana Taamar are both recently off the campaign trail where they served as receptionists for the Pennsylvania chapter of Gore For President, Inc., and have co-written the eBook Gore Got Gored. Together they publish the The Pennsylvania Court Observer which has a circulation of 5.

Dr. Lovenstein lives in a mobile home in Scranton, Pennsylvania with his long time companion Patricia F. Dilliams. When the two are not publishing reports for their Lovenstein Institute, they run an internet business www.collegedegreesforsale.com.







10 posted on 07/25/2006 1:08:56 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: lowbridge

And Bill Press's IQ is what??


11 posted on 07/25/2006 1:10:11 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: lowbridge

Since when do liberals care about reality and facts?
They just invent their own.


12 posted on 07/25/2006 1:10:14 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: lowbridge
How far did baby bill make it through school? I would say the assessment that Dubya has a 91 IQ doesn't say much for the bozos in the demoncrat party he has defeated...Where did billy boy get this information. And can he prove it? I doubt it...
13 posted on 07/25/2006 1:10:19 PM PDT by Edgerunner (The WOT will not be won without Iran and Syria going down)
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To: lowbridge
Bwa-ha-ha-ha, first Garry Trudeau, now Bill Press...six friggin years after it was exposed as a hoax!

Hey Bill!

14 posted on 07/25/2006 1:10:33 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is to conservatism what Howard Dean is to liberalism)
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To: I got the rope

I don't think he was mistaken, I think he did this on purpose. He knows it's a farce.
I just think he does.


15 posted on 07/25/2006 1:10:39 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (If chocolate fudge cake could sing, it would sound like Barry White.)
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To: Mikey Pepper
for having only half of Clinton's IQ, Bush seems to be twice as smart.

Got away with bombing the WTC, starting an illegal war, and produced a hurricane.

Clinton couldn't even pull off an affair with his secretary.

And stealing two elections right under the dems nozes.

16 posted on 07/25/2006 1:11:31 PM PDT by quesera (Evil does indeed triumph when good men do nothing.)
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To: lowbridge

What a maroon! It usually takes about 15 secs to check these out.....it's only a matter of time before I receive this in e-mail from my Lexus-driving, country club-golfing, WalMart hating, Costco loving, Al Gore worshiping, NRDC donating, mother.....

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.htm


17 posted on 07/25/2006 1:11:37 PM PDT by TMD (Get Planned Parenthood out of our schools!)
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To: lowbridge

If Carter and Clinton were 'smart, I'll take a 'dumb' President Bush any day!


18 posted on 07/25/2006 1:11:47 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: lowbridge

Judging from the fact that both GWB and his mother have a well developed and attested spontaneous sense of humor [as opposed to somebody parroting the jokes prepared and/or written by others], it necessarily follows that their IQs are above average. This much could be said without any actual testing. Therefore Bill Press better switch to a new laxative lest he bursts, he's so full of it.


19 posted on 07/25/2006 1:12:14 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: lowbridge
Savor the irony of someone insulting another's intelligence while being taken in by a hoax.

20 posted on 07/25/2006 1:12:25 PM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: RightWingAtheist

I was just going to say.... Didnt we first hear about this sham like 5 years ago? And wasn't it debunked as a hoax almost immediately? So who is the dumbbell, GWB or dopes like Press who are suckered in by this stuff, even after it has been proven to be false?!


21 posted on 07/25/2006 1:12:25 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Echo Talon; ColdSpringGirl
With President Clinton leading the class at 182.

I remember when Chelsea was in about 8th grade. Ex42 said that he could no longer help her with her math because he had not had room in his schedule for "higher math" when he had been in school. I interpreted that to mean that he had not gone beyond Geometry...at the most. His transcripts have never been revealed. He is a genius at politics and self-promotion. That's the extent of his thinking skills.

22 posted on 07/25/2006 1:12:52 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: lowbridge

2 post in one week to an article he writes. We're going to give him more hits in a day than he gets in a year!


23 posted on 07/25/2006 1:13:03 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: Dog Gone
Bill Press was overheard talking to Dan Rather.

"The report may be fake, but it is totally accurate to me, so I'm reporting it as news"

24 posted on 07/25/2006 1:13:04 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Mikey Pepper
sour grapes?

welcome to FR.. :\

25 posted on 07/25/2006 1:13:12 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: I got the rope

THAT is a GREAT screen name, by the way!!!!


26 posted on 07/25/2006 1:13:27 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: Dilbert56

Ahhhh....it tastes so good!

Too bad Bill Press will never have any idea what it tastes like...completely lost on him!


27 posted on 07/25/2006 1:15:03 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: lowbridge

Press is such a loathsome, odious repulsoid.


28 posted on 07/25/2006 1:15:10 PM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: Echo Talon
BS! i'd be suprised if he could get 125

Well, when you add the brains in both heads...

29 posted on 07/25/2006 1:16:26 PM PDT by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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To: Echo Talon; Mikey Pepper

I think he was taking the Lib viewpoint for humor...I didn't think he felt that way, but...I could be mistaken!


30 posted on 07/25/2006 1:16:29 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: Echo Talon
"i'd be suprised if he could get 125."

An IQ of 125 is nearly two full standard deviations above the average Caucasian IQ of 100.

Anyone with any understanding of IQ distribution knew this "study" was a raving idiocy at the time it was published.

31 posted on 07/25/2006 1:16:40 PM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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To: lowbridge

maybe he heard the new york times was going to replace jason blair


32 posted on 07/25/2006 1:16:56 PM PDT by edzo4
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To: lowbridge

Why is there no mention of Harry Truman? Lyndon Johnson? Although I certainly believe they were not of below average intelligence, they were not acclaimed intellectuals.


33 posted on 07/25/2006 1:17:53 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Echo Talon
With President Clinton leading the class at 182. BS! i'd be suprised if he could get 125.

More like 80.

"Stupid is as stupid does."

34 posted on 07/25/2006 1:20:19 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Dilbert56
Savor the irony of someone insulting another's intelligence while being taken in by a hoax.

I'm savoring :-)

35 posted on 07/25/2006 1:20:55 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: lowbridge

Only someone with a low IQ would believe that President Clinton has an IQ of 182. My impression of those presidents is that none of them were geniuses, but all of them except Ford were gifted.


36 posted on 07/25/2006 1:21:04 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: lowbridge

I posted the "savor the irony" sentiment on Bill Press' site as well under the name Paul.


37 posted on 07/25/2006 1:22:54 PM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: lowbridge

How many people do you really know with an IQ of 92? I had a buddy who was a very nice guy, but absolutely dumber than a box of rocks. I could have a conversation with him, and it would really be two completely seperate conversations, me with my understanding (and also understanding his level), and he with his completely different, much simpler understanding (and oblivious to my level). I actually estimated his IQ at about 85, but there is no way President Bush could even hope to function as President at 92.


38 posted on 07/25/2006 1:23:01 PM PDT by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: Freee-dame

This is the first time I have heard of the Bill Press Show. Is it radio, TV or a funny name for a blog?


39 posted on 07/25/2006 1:23:55 PM PDT by ColdSpringGirl
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To: nuconvert

Exactly...my email to Press:

Hey Bill,

Wonder what the IQ is of someone that doesn't even know that you should check Snopes before publishing urban legends?


40 posted on 07/25/2006 1:24:37 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: rlmorel

Zapped....


41 posted on 07/25/2006 1:24:55 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (All of the answers remain available; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions!)
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To: lowbridge

book mark for later humor break.


42 posted on 07/25/2006 1:25:16 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
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To: dawn53

Lol


43 posted on 07/25/2006 1:25:28 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Edgerunner

Dude!!!! Read Post number five -- it is a hoax and a joke and Bill scum suck piece of filth, treasonous monkey vomit fell for it.


44 posted on 07/25/2006 1:25:42 PM PDT by RayStacy
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To: lowbridge
The average IQ of six Democratic presidents – was 156.

Oh, that is rich!

45 posted on 07/25/2006 1:26:06 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: RightWingAtheist

LOL-my kids were sitting here and they really liked that one!


46 posted on 07/25/2006 1:26:14 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: Jeff Chandler
Well. An IQ of 182 is nearly *six* full standard deviations above the mean Caucasian IQ of 100. To get an idea of the idiocy of this "study," one need only remind oneself that the two most intelligent ethnic groups on the planet - the Ashkenazi Jews and the Hmong - are lucky to manage two full standard deviations.

What outright stupidity.

47 posted on 07/25/2006 1:28:10 PM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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To: lowbridge
The smartest president of the last 50 years?

Perhaps talking on the phone and being, uh, otherwise engaged at the same time appears to be the epitome of intelligence to Mr. Press.

48 posted on 07/25/2006 1:30:28 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Dilbert56

A savory point indeed.


49 posted on 07/25/2006 1:30:32 PM PDT by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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To: lafroste
President Bush could even hope to function as President at 92.

Would you believe the USAF would have an Officer flying around in jet fighters
who didn't score well on that battery of tests all military folks had to take?

50 posted on 07/25/2006 1:32:16 PM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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