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Pluto thought to be warming up
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Posted on 07/26/2006 6:53:09 PM PDT by MNJohnnie

Astronomers at the University of Tasmania have found that the solar system's smallest planet is not getting colder as first thought and it probably does not have rings.

Dr John Greenhill has collected observations from last month's event when Pluto passed in front of a bright star, making it easier to study.

French scientists have shared the measurements they took in Tasmania that night, which indicate that the planet is unlikely to have rings.

Dr Greenhill says the results are surprising because they show Pluto is warming up.

"It looks as though the atmosphere has not changed from 2002, which is pretty surprising because we expected the atmosphere would freeze out as the planet moved further away from the Sun," he said.

"But so far, if anything, the atmosphere has gotten even denser."


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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Couple of other web sources show Pluto's average radius is 40 times that of earth.

So if earth is 8 light-minutes from the sun, Pluto is 40 * 8 minutes or 320 light-muntes from the sun.

Solar particles are slower than light waves, so they travel slower. Heat is transmitted by what's radiating from the sun, and any "gasses" emitted from earth are meaningless. In fact, ALL of the greenhouse gasses are too heavy to be released from earth's gravitational pull away. Only the lightest gasses would leave earth into free space.
51 posted on 07/26/2006 7:14:26 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Lokibob
Why, on every thread. does somebody HAVE to say "it is Bushs fault"? Honestly, FReepers are more creative, I would think.

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Threatens Solar System!

52 posted on 07/26/2006 7:15:54 PM PDT by MrEdd (Bad spellers of the world - UNTIE!,)
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To: zeugma

I once read that if the earth was represented as a baseball in Manhattan, pluto would be the size of a pea in San Fransisco.


53 posted on 07/26/2006 7:15:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Everybody's entitled to my opinion.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Must be all those SUVs.


54 posted on 07/26/2006 7:16:26 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Help get Murtha out of Congress- donate at http://www.irey.com/)
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To: TommyDale

That stuff can make you f'n Goofy ... oops, this is a Pluto thread. ;)


55 posted on 07/26/2006 7:17:10 PM PDT by maggief
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To: MNJohnnie
So, NASA has now discovered evidence of global warming on Mars, Jupiter and Pluto. And yet, according to Al Gore and his disciples, the debate as to what Global Warming is and what or who is causing it is over. It would appear that Pluto's atmosphere is not the only thing getting denser.
56 posted on 07/26/2006 7:17:44 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: MNJohnnie
Not a moment too soon.

That place is cold.

57 posted on 07/26/2006 7:18:00 PM PDT by dighton
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To: maggief
"That stuff can make you f'n Goofy ... oops, this is a Pluto thread. ;)"

I've seen it do some strange things to people.

58 posted on 07/26/2006 7:19:23 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: MNJohnnie

There are minor little scientific reports that have continued to crop up over the recent years that indicate every planet in our solar system is going through some form of major climate change, displaying data and patterns very different from previous observations.

Even our own moon has, just since the 1970s, developed a slight atmosphere of sulphur compounds. They were always present in the moon but something (energy) has caused them to only just recently be released into the weak gravity of the moon. (Or maybe Neil Armstrong left his SUV up there on autopilot).


59 posted on 07/26/2006 7:19:47 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Reaganesque
It would appear that Pluto's atmosphere is not the only thing getting denser.

OH MY GOD! That was funny. I am going to be chuckling about that one for days.

60 posted on 07/26/2006 7:19:58 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Syncro
Pluto thought to be warming up

Actually, they'll be bringing the other guy in...


61 posted on 07/26/2006 7:21:41 PM PDT by mikrofon (Goofy Pitcher)
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To: MNJohnnie

Maybe it's the plutonium.


62 posted on 07/26/2006 7:22:07 PM PDT by buridan
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To: Lokibob
Why, on every thread. does somebody HAVE to say "it is Bushs fault"? Honestly, FReepers are more creative, I would think.

Indeed. That has gotten old. And does every thread about hot women need that same photo of Helen Thomas posted?

FR needs a moratorium on both of these worn out replies.

63 posted on 07/26/2006 7:26:46 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: MNJohnnie
That's what Pluto gets for not abiding by the Kyoto treaty.
64 posted on 07/26/2006 7:28:21 PM PDT by SouthJrzReaganite18 (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. -Optimus Prime)
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To: MNJohnnie

Global Warming threads are some of the funniest on FR..


65 posted on 07/26/2006 7:39:28 PM PDT by cardinal4 (America, despite the usual suspects, stands firmly with Israel..)
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To: zeugma
Venus = 12m 35.3s (1.5135 au)

I thought Venus was closer to the sun than Earth. If true shouldn't it be less than one astronomical unit? Also if it takes roughly seven minutes for sun light to reach earth why does it take over twelve to get to venus?

Am I missing something?

Should I go look in Myanus?

66 posted on 07/26/2006 7:39:42 PM PDT by joshhiggins (O you who believe! do not take the MUSLIMS for friends; ...surely Allah does not guide the unjust...)
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To: MNJohnnie
Pluto thought to be warming up

But Minnie says he's still a bit stand-off-ish.

67 posted on 07/26/2006 7:43:13 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Yes, I used this same joke on Flag Day. So sue me. It's America.)
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To: Lokibob

I've noticed that, too. It must be Bush's fault.
";^)


68 posted on 07/26/2006 7:47:14 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (In my opinion, monotheism is a gift from the gods.)
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To: clamper1797

As if earth wasn't enough, Bush and Rove are now plotting to destroy Pluto.

Fortunately, I booked my trip to Pluto online and packed light. A hooded parka, a bottle of cognac and a comely Pluto babe has already been arranged by the concierge at the Plutonian Inn Express.

Oh, and I saved on terrestrial rental through Geico.


69 posted on 07/26/2006 7:51:30 PM PDT by Hilltop
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To: MNJohnnie

Global warming?


70 posted on 07/26/2006 7:52:47 PM PDT by A. Pole (Gore:We are the most powerful force of nature.We are changing the relationship between Earth and Sun)
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To: joshhiggins
I thought Venus was closer to the sun than Earth. If true shouldn't it be less than one astronomical unit? Also if it takes roughly seven minutes for sun light to reach earth why does it take over twelve to get to venus?

Am I missing something?

Yes.

If Venus is on the other side of the Sun from us, you would need to add the Earth's distance plus Venus' distance. 

The graphic below displays the current positions of the inner planets as of 7-26-2006.

 

71 posted on 07/26/2006 7:53:02 PM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place.)
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To: Lokibob
Why, on every thread. does somebody HAVE to say "it is Bushs fault"? Honestly, FReepers are more creative, I would think.

Thats just it Lokibob, Liberals are not at all creative in their ability to blame every ill in the world, or in this case the universe, on George W.

Its a great little jab at them and always will be. Their blind and ignorant hatred of the man, and all conservatives, DESERVES that kind of mind-numbing-simpleton response.

However, in an effort to satisfy your complaint I allow the following.

In the news today it was decided at the UN-League-of-Planets that the leader of the United States of America, Planet Earth, was directly to blame for the increase in planetary tempeture experienced by the peace-loving planet of Pluto because of the Orbiting Scout space craft sent into the atmosphere of Pluto. Before this the planet of Pluto had zero defect and was in near perfection. Useless News has learned tat Halliburton, the builder of the spacecraft in a no-bid contract, could not be reached for comment. It should be noted that Vice President Dick Cheney, is a large stock holder of Halliburton.

72 posted on 07/26/2006 8:00:59 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Wuli
Your's is as good as any to reply to .... The evidence is in ...

The Universe is not expanding ... it is contracting !!!

All planets warming up? They must be closing in on the sun. The sun is obviously a giant magnet and attracting all heavenly bodies to it.

We're freakin' DOOMED !!!

73 posted on 07/26/2006 8:03:51 PM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: MNJohnnie
As it's happening on Mars too, why not on outer solar-system solid bodies with atmospheres?

Something of the Sun?

74 posted on 07/26/2006 8:16:41 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Lokibob
"Why, on every thread. does somebody HAVE to say "it is Bushs fault"?"

I dunno........but, you know it's gotta be Bush's fault, somehow.

75 posted on 07/26/2006 8:18:12 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Quick, send Al Gore. Please.


76 posted on 07/26/2006 8:19:53 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Creating the <a href="http://clinton.senate.gov">straddle</a> Google bomb one post at a time.)
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To: TommyDale
>> "Must be too many Hummers cruising around Uranus."

> Just spit my drink all over the keyboard. Many will not get the joke, but I think it is a classic. ;-D

I'm just glad to see I wasn't the only one around here with a dirty mind. Thanks!!

77 posted on 07/26/2006 8:20:37 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: MNJohnnie
Image hosted by Photobucket.com and there it is...
78 posted on 07/26/2006 8:33:17 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: Lokibob
Why, on every thread. does somebody HAVE to say "it is Bushs fault"? Honestly, FReepers are more creative, I would think.

Oh, kwitcherbitchin' - it's not like someone put panties on your head... :->

79 posted on 07/26/2006 8:42:23 PM PDT by A. Goodwin
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To: MNJohnnie
Dr Greenhill says the results are surprising because they show Pluto is warming up.

Given Bush's poll numbers, it is exigent we connect with these distant Republicans and find some legal way to get their votes to register on Earth in time for November.

80 posted on 07/26/2006 9:55:38 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Fred Nerks
"But so far, if anything, the atmosphere has gotten even denser."
I guess stuff that gets colder doesn't get denser over on Pluto. Or maybe this guy just has his head up his butt.
81 posted on 07/26/2006 11:15:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Wednesday, June 21, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: MNJohnnie
If Bush hadn't caused the Earth's global warming, it wouldn't have broken out all over the solar system. Soon, the entire Milky Way Galaxy will have global warming and it will be all Bush's fault. Already I am fixing to sue Bush for the coffee I spilled in my lap. If it weren't for the global warming, my coffee wouldn't have scalded me so bad that I need a sex change operation. I hope that everyone's coffee scalds lots of people so they can charge the government for their sex change. It's not only global warming, it's global scalding and it all Bush's fault!
82 posted on 07/26/2006 11:49:13 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: SunkenCiv

Denser? So, the University of Tasmania finally bought a pair of binoculars? Us Mainlanders take anything the Taswegians say with a huge lump of salt. They don't think like us and they talk funny.

I can prove it. I read the article three times and I'm still none the wiser.


83 posted on 07/27/2006 12:22:13 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: Lokibob; Drew68
You're both right.

"Bush's Fault" is old.

New response should be "This wouldn't be happening if John Kerry were president".

:-P

84 posted on 07/27/2006 4:57:15 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Must be too many Hummers cruising around Uranus.

There's nothing worse than Klingons on Uranus... with Hummers.

;-)

85 posted on 07/27/2006 5:24:34 AM PDT by Jonah Hex ("How'd you get that scar, mister?" "Nicked myself shaving.")
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To: MNJohnnie

How could Pluto be warming when the evil, polluting, white, capitalist, industrialists, haven't even sent any rovers up there yet?


86 posted on 07/27/2006 5:32:24 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: MNJohnnie; All

The thing the scientists are really trying not to comment on....if Pluto and Mars are showing signs of warming up, the common denominator is the sun! If the sun is warming or increasing its out-put, then this would affect Earth as well...

Look for the first "Our Sun is going SuperNova" panic warnings any day now!(sarcasm on)


87 posted on 07/27/2006 6:07:19 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: Wuli; All

Don't forget...we have more accurate and sensitive detection devices then we did 30 years ago and longer...We can detect things we never could before...therefore allowing astronomical increases in our ability to scare our-selves silly!


88 posted on 07/27/2006 6:10:11 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: mdmathis6

That may be true, but many of the differences seen across the solar system have little to do with greater accuracy and are based on differences in data and observations from instruments that have undergone little or no substantial changes in decades.

My point was that it is not the earth and our "man made" causes that is creating "global warming". Our very sun and its solar system are going through a cyclical change, and this cycle, this energy cycle is reflected in changes seen from the sun and all the way out to Pluto.


89 posted on 07/27/2006 12:02:37 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: knarf

(1) "Warming" does not mean anything in the solar system is getting closer to the sun. This little bit about Pluto is just another minor blip in the general scientific admission that the sun has been heading into a more energetic cycle for some time now.

(2) Thus nothing about this report deals with either an expanding or contracting universe.

(3)Therefore no one was alarmed, so your feint towards the alarmists missed its target - there were none.


90 posted on 07/27/2006 12:08:51 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: bigLusr

I went to your link and saw this mug.

She might be a nice lady but perhaps she got her start on radio.

91 posted on 07/27/2006 12:10:37 PM PDT by freedomlover (This tagline has been pulled - - - - OK?)
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To: MNJohnnie

Pluto warming up......don't tell Goofy.....


92 posted on 07/27/2006 12:19:52 PM PDT by auto power
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To: Wuli
" .. so your feint towards the alarmists missed its target."

Rats! ..I was so hoping to slip this one in.

Oh well .. next time I'll follow with a < /sarcasm >

93 posted on 07/27/2006 12:21:16 PM PDT by knarf
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To: RightWhale; Brett66; xrp; gdc314; anymouse; NonZeroSum; jimkress; discostu; The_Victor; ...
The plutoians must have SUV's........


94 posted on 07/27/2006 5:15:40 PM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: KevinDavis

You have Freepmail from me.


95 posted on 07/27/2006 5:17:13 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: csvset
Those poor Plutonians ! Perhaps Al Sharpton will protest.

Representative Jackson-Lee (D-TX) just called in attempting to find the flag that Neil Armdong planted in 1969 on Pluto.

96 posted on 07/28/2006 4:28:23 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: ICE-FLYER

This is another one of those things that would not have happened if John effing Kerry had been elected president.


97 posted on 07/28/2006 4:32:45 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: 4rcane

Roughly six hours. Pluto is like 40 AU from the sun. (One AU is the distance from Earth to Sun.) It takes sunlight just about 500 seconds to reach Earth. 500 x ~40 = ~20,000 seconds = ~6 hours.


98 posted on 07/28/2006 4:38:19 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: MNJohnnie
Pluto has an elliptical orbit and is presently closer to the sun than Neptune. If measurements now were compared to many years ago when it was more distant from the sun, it stands to reason that the current measurements would indicate a warmer Pluto.
99 posted on 07/28/2006 8:21:37 AM PDT by free_at_jsl.com
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To: free_at_jsl.com
Nice try to make up a reason to deny reality. The fact is Pluto, Mars and the Moon are all showing raising temperatures. The change in orbit is not significant enough to explain the change in temperature on Pluto. But cling to your failed dogma. This desperation of the Enviro wackos to cling to their religious dogma in the face of science is amusing to watch
100 posted on 07/28/2006 8:55:38 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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