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Annan's Claims On Casualties May Unravel
The New York Sun ^ | July 27, 2006 | BENNY AVNI

Posted on 07/27/2006 3:27:30 AM PDT by baystaterebel

An apparent discrepancy in the portrayal of events surrounding the deaths of four unarmed U.N. observers in Lebanon threatens to unravel Secretary-General Annan's initial accusation that Israel "deliberately" targeted the U.N. Interim Force in Lebanon.

A Canadian U.N. observer, one of four killed at a UNIFIL position near the southern Lebanese town of Khiyam on Tuesday, sent an e-mail to his former commander, a Canadian retired major-general, Lewis MacKenzie, in which he wrote that Hezbollah fighters were "all over" the U.N. position, Mr. MacKenzie said. Hezbollah troops, not the United Nations, were Israel's target, the deceased observer wrote.

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Bingo! Kofi dont have Bingo! But he does have a lot of "splainin" to do.
1 posted on 07/27/2006 3:27:31 AM PDT by baystaterebel
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To: baystaterebel

Will the libs start tossing around "Liar!" so quickly as they do with Bush, or will we see lots of posts on DU like "Let's just step back and wait for the FACTS to come out, people."?


2 posted on 07/27/2006 3:31:05 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.savethesoldiers.com/)
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To: baystaterebel

"We've received e-mails from him a few days ago and he was describing the fact that he was taking fire within, in one case, three meters of his position ‘for tactical necessity — not being targeted,'" Mr. MacKenzie said he wrote.

In one such e-mail, obtained by The New York Sun, Hess-von Kruedener wrote about heavy IDF artillery and aerial bombardment "within 2 meters of our position." The Israeli shooting, he added, "has not been deliberate targeting, but has rather been due to tactical necessity."


3 posted on 07/27/2006 3:38:14 AM PDT by Peach (Prayers for our dear friends in Israel.)
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To: Peach

They were talking about that e-mail on FOX this morning.


4 posted on 07/27/2006 3:39:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Everybody's entitled to my opinion.)
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To: baystaterebel

This is starting to sound a little more like the truth, not that I expected Coffee to tell it. Jihadist cowards are well known for using innocents and neutrals as their shield.

US out of the UN, UN out of the US!!


5 posted on 07/27/2006 3:40:26 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: baystaterebel

Kofi Annan is as useless to the world as the Congressional Black Caucus is to American Blacks.


6 posted on 07/27/2006 3:40:33 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: baystaterebel

Read the article. Just what possible f***ing purpose do the U.N. "troops" serve other than as cover for Pezbullah (sic)? They can't stop attacks on Israel, so why not get them the Hell out of the way of the IDF who can manage peacekeeping a lot more efficiently without them?


7 posted on 07/27/2006 3:42:07 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: baystaterebel
Kofi lied...people died! Think we'll be hearing this from the left?...don't worry, it's a rhetorical question.
8 posted on 07/27/2006 3:43:47 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: cripplecreek

That's the first thing I heard this morning when I got up so I went looking for the story.

No small wonder the UN outpost was hit.


9 posted on 07/27/2006 3:44:38 AM PDT by Peach (Prayers for our dear friends in Israel.)
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To: baystaterebel

Kofi was going Anti-Semitic on us all. Who would have thought it possible (sarc.)


10 posted on 07/27/2006 3:47:17 AM PDT by rod1
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To: Peach
ED Hill also said something about someone with the UN being charged with smuggling 25 tons of drugs into the USA. So far I haven't been able to find anything on that.
11 posted on 07/27/2006 3:51:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Everybody's entitled to my opinion.)
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To: baystaterebel
Exactly. The UN post was near a Hezbollah base. But the UN would not bother wait for reports from the field to ascertain why bombs were falling near the UN position. They made up their mind in advance Israel was guilty of deliberately targeting the UN observers without any real proof this was in fact the case. And the facts emerging now have put the lie to Kofi Annan's accusation Israel struck without justifiable cause. If you let Hezbollah terrorists operate in your vicinity, you can end up being collateral damage. They still don't get it up in Turtle Bay.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

12 posted on 07/27/2006 3:53:01 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: baystaterebel
"Mr. Annan has called for "immediate cessation of hostilities." During yesterday's council briefing on the UNIFIL incident, Ms. Lute said, "I reiterate" that call."

You can iterate that call all you want sucker.
Not gonna happen.
Your Hizbullah pals are going to continue to get hammered
13 posted on 07/27/2006 3:59:34 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: baystaterebel
Kofi is a craven, dishonest, anti-semitic knave, and he looks just like a he-goat to boot.
The quicker this sucker's sent to pasture, the better for us all.
14 posted on 07/27/2006 4:02:36 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: cripplecreek

I missed that part; probably too busy chuckling out loud to hear whatever was said after the UN letting Hezbollah shoot off rockets 10 feet away to hear anything else that was said.


15 posted on 07/27/2006 4:03:42 AM PDT by Peach (Prayers for our dear friends in Israel.)
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To: goldstategop
Hezbollah has every incentive to use a UN post for protection - as human shields. And if it fails and the Israelis strike and hit the UN post they win with all the bad PR that will be directed at the Israelis. So it is win, win for Hezbollah.

It is 100% the fault of the UN for having "observers" in a war zone stationed among terrorists.

The outcome is obvious.

And may well be a situation that was deliberately created.
16 posted on 07/27/2006 4:07:45 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: Peach
U.N. Employee Is Charged With Drug Smuggling
17 posted on 07/27/2006 4:10:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Everybody's entitled to my opinion.)
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To: cripplecreek
Prosecutors say Mr. Osman, a Somali citizen who had been employed at the United Nations for 29 years, was an important cog in the largest khat trafficking enterprise America has known. Forty-four defendants were named in yesterday's indictment, and 14 were still at large, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney's office said.

Thanks for finding that.

18 posted on 07/27/2006 4:14:26 AM PDT by Peach (Prayers for our dear friends in Israel.)
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To: goldstategop
Actually I think they do get it in Turtle Bay. They wanted to provide a safe haven for Hezbollah. They knew they were being used. Hell there are pictures of the Hezbollah flag flying right next to the UN flag a few meters away.

This outpost was (A) Supposed to be only temporary as Bolton has recently said. (B)The fact that it was still being manned for no reason risking blue helmets lives to do what? Stop the violence? Protect the Innocent?

I am sure commanders told some one at Turtle Bay that Hezbollah was using them as a shield. Did the UN ask Hezbollah to move away and stop jeopardizing its people?

Nope! The screeched at the IDF to stop shelling in their direction.

Go figure.
19 posted on 07/27/2006 4:14:52 AM PDT by baystaterebel (http://omphalosgazer.blogspot.com/)
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To: baystaterebel
UN Spying for Hezbollah
20 posted on 07/27/2006 4:16:23 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: Darkwolf377
Will the libs start tossing around "Liar!" so quickly as they do with Bush, or will we see lots of posts on DU like "Let's just step back and wait for the FACTS to come out, people."?

Liberals wait for facts? You have got to be dreaming. Libs don't look for fact they make them up. Their motto seems to be, “say it enough with enough conviction and it becomes a fact.”

Truth and facts are the ultimate enemy of liberals.

21 posted on 07/27/2006 4:19:42 AM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: Jameison

Kofi Annan? He ain't heavy, he's my brother.

22 posted on 07/27/2006 4:21:58 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: baystaterebel

In other words, hezbolah was using the UN for cover.


23 posted on 07/27/2006 4:22:18 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: cripplecreek

Oh they were only smuggling khats. They're really going to get into trouble when they try to smuggle dhogs.


24 posted on 07/27/2006 4:23:54 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: cripplecreek
This is obvioulsy another reason the criminal Kofi was so eager to distract attention from the the crimes of the UN by screaming out about "deliberate" targeting of UN people by Israel.
Figures.
25 posted on 07/27/2006 4:29:37 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Enterprise

LOL!


26 posted on 07/27/2006 4:29:54 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: redgolum
In other words, hezbolah was using the UN for cover.

Ya think.


27 posted on 07/27/2006 4:34:25 AM PDT by jslade (The beatings well cease when morale improves!)
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To: baystaterebel

Involuntary Human Shields? hmmm.


28 posted on 07/27/2006 4:37:19 AM PDT by Eddie01 (please let me know if I missed anything)
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To: baystaterebel

Why doesn't Kofi just go off somewhere and fade?


29 posted on 07/27/2006 4:37:35 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: baystaterebel

Like any good socialist, he believes in the power of the accusation without regard to facts.


30 posted on 07/27/2006 4:41:58 AM PDT by IamConservative (Humility is not thinking less of oneself; humility is thinking about oneself less.)
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To: baystaterebel

They need to read FR. We had that e-mail on here earlier. I bet Tony knew about it, and got the ball rolling.


31 posted on 07/27/2006 4:43:45 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: cripplecreek

A neighbor works at the UN in the IT dept. Even in that out-of-the-loop position he hears stories all the time about the corruption that goes all the way to the top. KA is a joke and a disgrace to the real people who work there.


32 posted on 07/27/2006 4:45:30 AM PDT by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: baystaterebel
UNIFIL has been aiding and abetting Hezbollah for years. That's why the UN has left it there. So I wouldn't have objected even if Israel had targeted them deliberately.
33 posted on 07/27/2006 4:48:09 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Peach

With this going on within 2 meters of their position you have to wonder why in hell they weren't pulled out. Kofi Annan and the UN are responsible for these mens deaths. This is gross negligence on his part.


34 posted on 07/27/2006 4:48:52 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: cripplecreek
Thanks for the link! Here's another :)

Of course the acronym UNIFIL is left out of the headline, but....

Scandal hits Ukrainian UN troops

35 posted on 07/27/2006 4:50:37 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: saganite
...you have to wonder why in hell they weren't pulled out.

They weren't pulled out because they were doing exactly what they were supposed to do. Aid and abet Hezbollah. And they were expendable. To the UN and Hezbollah, anyway.

36 posted on 07/27/2006 4:52:12 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mathluv

Do you have a link to that post?


37 posted on 07/27/2006 4:53:09 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: rod1

Kofi's Nuke inspectors in Iraq and now in Iran are arabs.

Think about that.


38 posted on 07/27/2006 4:57:26 AM PDT by funkywbr
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To: baystaterebel

Why is this idiot still in charge???


39 posted on 07/27/2006 5:03:07 AM PDT by auto power
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To: saganite

"In response to a question about Hezbollah activity in the area, the official said that no Hezbollah activity had been reported there, with the nearest known activity by that group taking place at least five kilometres away" http://www.un.org/News/ossg/hilites.shtml


40 posted on 07/27/2006 5:09:26 AM PDT by EBH (Islam: A government ruled by or subject to religious authority.)
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To: auto power

You must know that He have no choice. If he point to that terrorist, his house will burn and wife/daughter will be rape. If he point to that Israel, Israel only say defend themselve without harm Him or His family. Anybody dare to pin-point at Muslim and I am sure that person already gone. So, Israel accept the blame. Heard Israel loss a lot of soldier. Super sad but they gain a lot of land...so strange!!!


41 posted on 07/27/2006 5:14:42 AM PDT by plck
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To: mewzilla
They weren't pulled out because they were doing exactly what they were supposed to do. Aid and abet Hezbollah. And they were expendable. To the UN and Hezbollah, anyway.

Well said! IMO it wasn't negligence on the part of the people in charge at the UN, it was INTENT.

They had two ways to win on this one: 1) living shields for the UN's usual terrorist allies or 2) if Israel had the courage to continue killing terrorists (UN allies), screech about evil Israel deliberately targeting UN "observers".

Thank God for those emails from Kofi's victims. Kind of made the whole thing blow up in Kofi's terrorist face.

42 posted on 07/27/2006 5:15:43 AM PDT by Sal (Once you know they sold USA out to Red China, what do you think they would NOT do?)
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To: Sal
Thank God for those emails from Kofi's victims. Kind of made the whole thing blow up in Kofi's terrorist face.

And I won't hold my breath while I wait for Chuckie Schumer and Hillary Clinton to call Annan on it.

43 posted on 07/27/2006 5:18:17 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: cripplecreek

A U.N. employee used U.N. diplomatic pouches to smuggle illegal drugs as part of a ring that brought 25 tons of contraband into New York in the past year and a half, federal prosecutors and the FBI said yesterday.

Little Cog. Big Wheel. Either that, or those are some mighty big pouches. :)

44 posted on 07/27/2006 5:21:17 AM PDT by elli1
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To: saganite

No link, but it may have been in one of the daily live threads. I just remember seeing it on here.


45 posted on 07/27/2006 5:22:59 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: baystaterebel; All
Check this thread [Posted on 07/26/2006 11:02:35 PM CDT by Piranha] for another possibility for Goofy's actions.

Kofi Annan's Hidden Agenda for UNIFIL

46 posted on 07/27/2006 5:34:42 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The media and the democrats are the biggest supporters of the terrorists.)
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To: baystaterebel

Yeah..... there is a reason why hezbollah let that UN post be there for all those years.


47 posted on 07/27/2006 5:36:14 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


48 posted on 07/27/2006 5:36:43 AM PDT by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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To: baystaterebel

I think the world knows that Hezbollah attacked Israel and kidnapped two soldiers........and that Israel is retaliating. I think the observers can just watch the news from home and know that is still going on. Since their "mission" is just to observe it would be safer from an armchair at home than in the middle of the war. Get them out of harm's way for heaven's sake.


49 posted on 07/27/2006 5:39:57 AM PDT by tioga
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To: BOBWADE

ping


50 posted on 07/27/2006 5:50:50 AM PDT by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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