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An Electric Car With Juice (Nikola Tesla&Arnold Schwarzenegger)
Washington Post ^ | July 22, 2006 | Mike Musgrove

Posted on 07/28/2006 2:48:17 PM PDT by kronos77

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To: Rca2000
But you must remember....to the enviros(and many "everyday" types) --the very mention of word "nuclear", is the equivalent to the word "holocaust".

Instead--they imagine that solar power, wind power and geothermal power ill answer everything. Even though the BEST , most optimistic estimates for "renewable" energy sources being able to supply the earth's power needs is::: FIVE percent!!


I remember reading a book from the library about cars, it was printed in 1953, where someone designed an atomic powered car in 1946 and the idea was to modify a typical car from 1946 to use it. I'll have to check the book out again and look it over again but it was a very detailed drawing.

Like your analysis on the wattage of the Tesla car and how much it wil lactually use. Sounds about right from what I know of these things. In Europe, they measure engine power output in kilowatts as opposed to horsepower so 135kw being around 175 HP is fairly close.

I think a neat idea is to make it a series hybird, much like the University of Utah did with an EV-1, where they took a small gas turbine made by Williams and used that to run the generator needed to recharge the batteries. The Williams turbine they used was like two feet long, maybe a foot and a half in diameter and they got like 60kw out of it, IIRC. I tried to find the specs for it, but so far, no luck, but I did look up the 1970's version of it in my Janes "Worlds Aircraft 1974/75" and it sounds about right. The turbine itself weighs like 110-130 lbs and if I read the consumption right, it burns only a quart of fuel per hour, I'll have to check on that one.

A little off side, one of my characters I NPC (referee run character, I'm a role playing game (RPG) junky) in my Morrow Project RPG game, in the early 1980's, designed a hybrid 4x4 based on the VW Iltis chassis that used a gas turbine generated system to charge the batteries and provide extra power as needed and the computer monitoring system uses a computer with an electroluminescent screen. Of course, this is fantasy, but not too far fetched for the game where it is set.

As to licking the energy problem, there is real no such thing as a free lunch. Maybe when we are able to get fusion, hot or cold (I'm skeptical on cold), going or achieve singularity by using minature black holes in a containment field, we might get close a free lunch but then again, to "fire up" something like that, it would take energy to put in until ot gets running. Getting back to my Morrow Project game, most Project vehicles use fusion.

I think you idea of using am enthanol and/or gasoline fuel cell or my idea of hybrid, would make this car more of a seller. One good thing about the gas turbine, you can run it on most any hydrocarbon based fuel, you can run it on the best aviation fuel or the worse "rot gut" diesel or gasoline and it still works.
121 posted on 07/29/2006 10:06:16 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Michael Savage for President - 2008!)
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To: capt. norm; Smartass; MamaDearest; JustPiper; nicmarlo; Arizona Carolyn

Tesla was a genius!

Did you know that he used to zap himself with electricity every day?

That may sound crazy until you learn that "galvanic treatments" are used to put small charges of electricity into the human body, mainly done while on a table here in the U. S. PT's here call it "Electric Galvanic Stimulation."

However, when I was desperately ill and bed-ridden with Epstein-Barr virus some 20 years ago, I had the great good fortune of having a European PT who put me in a bathtub of water with charges of electrical current coming from a machine with electrodes, putting current into my body. Obviously, if they don't know what they're doing, they can FRY you. My PT told me that the electrical current kills bacteria, viruses, and bad cells in the body. Remember, she was from Europe, and had no ties to the U. S. Cancer Conglomerate!

The treatment has great promise for patients, especially reducing tumors in Cancer patients. It is being called "Electrochemical Treatment." The Chinese have been using the process for decades.







122 posted on 07/30/2006 7:48:55 AM PDT by Larousse2 (Like June Carter Cash, "I'm just tryin' to matter.")
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To: RipSawyer

I think the reason gas prices bug people so much is that they go up so FAST.

If we were still paying the 1975 equivalent of $1/gallon, I don't think it would bother anybody, if the price had just gone up with everything else at the rate of inflation.

That would be $3.75 today.

I still think it is odd that gasoline is the ONLY commodity you ever hear anybody complaining about price gouging or about excessive profits made by the sellers.


123 posted on 07/30/2006 2:39:56 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: RipSawyer

BTW, average price of a new domestic car in 1975 was $5000, today it is $20,000.

Average price of a gallon of gas in 1975 was .53. Adjusted for inflation this would be $2. Six years later the price went over $1, but only for a relatively short period.

I will never understand why gasoline is the only price we compare over time without adjusting for inflation.


124 posted on 07/30/2006 2:51:45 PM PDT by Restorer
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Wow, no I didn't know Tesla zapped himself daily. Without doubt, if you don't know what you’re doing, or if a PT does not know either, you could end up in a world of hurt. It takes very little current or voltage to disrupt a heartbeat and kill a person. Many people have accidentally received low voltage electric shock, believing they survived, walked away, only to drop dead hours later. What has happened is, their heartbeat has been disrupted and thrown off. The heart never gets back into rhythm, and as the hours slowly pass, it loses a little more and a little more until the heart fails altogether, with the expected end result, of death. Ironically, the only way to get a heart back into proper beat, is through electric shock treatment[s]. The purpose of a heart fibulator (shock machine) is to get the heart restarted after failure, with the pacemaker helping to keep the heart beat going and/or in sync.

That’s what disturbs me about the high voltage, low current “Taser gun.” I don’t believe it’s safe, because everyone has a different body makeup, and cardiac condition, with unknown results only after being zapped into a helpless condition. Most people appear to survive being “Tasered,” however, many have also died, raising red safety flags.

It seems like Western medicine is usually always at odds with European and Chinese methods, mainly because of a cynical FDA that still operates in black and white slow motion. It just takes the FDA to long to get off their butts to make things happen to benefit the American public. It’s like the FDA is a puppet for the AMA and Pharmaceutical lobbies coming first, with the people coming second.

“Electric Galvanic Stimulation” treatment is indeed interesting and I’m sure works well, however still probably viewed in the West as voodoo chicken bone waving medicine. There is so much to be learned about genes, gene splicing, stem cell research and electro chemical therapy etc. It’s just a matter of funding and focusing creative minds on all methods of medical research and healing, and I’m sure, that in time, they'll be able to cure almost all diseases. A few years back, I had electro medicine therapy on a muscle that was causing me fits. Does that kind of therapy work on everyone, I don’t know, but after 12 sessions, it sure helped me.




     
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125 posted on 07/30/2006 4:04:56 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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Yeah. Tesla was a brillant man.

He seems to have died rather mysteriously, and also mysteriously, his notes managed to walk off.

He had invented something that would have lighted up the world for a fraction of the cost of electricity.

No telling what else he would have invented that would have helped the world had his notes not disappeared!


126 posted on 07/31/2006 5:20:01 AM PDT by Larousse2 (Like June Carter Cash, "I'm just tryin' to matter.")
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To: Larousse2
I read some of Tesla's articles and papers. And you are right, Tesla had some great ideas on how to bring electrical power to anywhere on this planet, without transmission towers, or wires...cheap!

I still believe that once people get over their fears, nuclear power will eventually provide most, if not all electricity for the world.


 

127 posted on 07/31/2006 5:44:39 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: Smartass

I used to know a man in Scottsdale who had studied under Tesla in Colorado.

The man I knew was also an inventor who invented some really cool things.

Tesla could have done so much good for the world had he lived.


128 posted on 08/01/2006 2:06:05 PM PDT by Larousse2 (Like June Carter Cash, "I'm just tryin' to matter.")
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To: So Cal Rocket

3.5 hour charge


129 posted on 08/02/2006 12:35:06 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69
Everyone has their own opinions and agendas...fine power doesn't grow on trees, trade one cost for another,blah blah blah..
Anybody considering the fact that vehicles that can run on compressed air (while creating more to run on as they go) have been a reality for about a hundred years ?!
130 posted on 12/20/2006 2:01:36 AM PST by Two Bears
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