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Shootings Tarnish Image of New Orleans - This past weekend, 6 shooting deaths in 24 hours
AP via NOLA.com ^ | 7/31/06 | MARY FOSTER

Posted on 07/31/2006 5:28:17 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32

In June, five teenagers were gunned down while sitting in a sport utility vehicle, sparking the return of state police and National Guard troops to help keep the peace in the city. This weekend, six people were shot to death in 24 hours.

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1 posted on 07/31/2006 5:28:18 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

They had the opportunity to control who returned, and they blew it!


2 posted on 07/31/2006 5:29:51 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
"Shootings Tarnish Image of New Orleans"
It doesn't mine. This IS the image I have of that culture of depravity.
3 posted on 07/31/2006 5:29:53 AM PDT by Arcy
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Tarnish the image?

Thats a joke. But its on us because these thugs that are living around here and wont go home keep their crime ways in tact, regardless of where they are.


4 posted on 07/31/2006 5:30:13 AM PDT by Go Army.com (A slight modification of the story, bringing out the facts)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
"...6 shooting deaths in 24 hours..."

New slogan for New Orleans..."New Orleans, picking up where we left off."
5 posted on 07/31/2006 5:32:22 AM PDT by Arcy
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To: JimRed
They had the opportunity to control who returned

How can you control who moves where in the USA?

6 posted on 07/31/2006 5:33:09 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

New Orleans, less folks, more crime.......come on down!


7 posted on 07/31/2006 5:33:56 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Puppage

Well I know that people have been able to make those kind of choices for themselves in the past, but going forward we're going to have to take that choice away for the common good. < /proletariat_sarcasm>


9 posted on 07/31/2006 5:35:28 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Bush's fault.


10 posted on 07/31/2006 5:35:35 AM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Billions of our tax dollars down the democRAT hole so that "mayor" Nagan can have his "chocolate" (his words not mine) city back up and running filled with corruption, immorality and death. Things are indeed "back to normal".

The city sits 30 feet BELOW sea level; just don't be surprised if God again decides to wipe the slate clean.

11 posted on 07/31/2006 5:35:43 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Convert, Slavery or Death = "Islam the Religion of Peace tm" "It's time to play Cowboys and Muslims")
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I hate to pass judgement, but the fact is that place has always been a hell hole.


12 posted on 07/31/2006 5:38:28 AM PDT by Lanza
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To: Puppage

"How can you control who moves where in the USA?"

Money. ;)

Local cops too hard on you? Get a free ride back to town! Vote Nagin!


13 posted on 07/31/2006 5:38:32 AM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
"Shootings Tarnish Image of New Orleans..."

What's there to tarnish?

14 posted on 07/31/2006 5:38:36 AM PDT by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" Anonymous)
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To: Puppage
How can you control who moves where in the USA?

You are correct, of course; I was thinking more of monitoring who returns, and eliminating the thugs right up front. But, unless they have outstanding warrants, you have to let them kill someone first!

If these are only druggies killing each other, maybe it's not such a bad thing.

15 posted on 07/31/2006 5:39:25 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

The vermin have returned to Chocolate City.


16 posted on 07/31/2006 5:39:30 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: tcostell
but going forward we're going to have to take that choice away for the common good.

LOL. I knew that idea would be posted in short order.

17 posted on 07/31/2006 5:41:02 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Ten year ago my son had surgery at the Children's Hospital in New Orleans. The discharging nurse warned me to be very careful leaving the hospital. She stated three people (including an infant) had been murdered in the immediate neighborhood within the past twenty four hours.

Yep, back to normal.


18 posted on 07/31/2006 5:42:11 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: JimRed
I was thinking more of monitoring who returns

Got ya. I would agree that that is probably a good idea.

19 posted on 07/31/2006 5:42:21 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

IIRC, this is pretty normal for New Orleans.


20 posted on 07/31/2006 5:46:09 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: Arcy
"Shootings Tarnish Image of New Orleans"

I spent about 8 months in New Orleans back in 1996, running a project for what was then Bellsouth Mobility. Now, I'll qualify this with also stating that I have either worked in or traveled through 49 of the 50 states. Many places I've been in the US were, shall we say, on the seedy side of town, since cellular telephone sites are rarely placed on the good side of the tracks. I've also been to 16 countries with my work, and some were not so nice places like Nicaragua. Of all the places I've been I've never heard so much automatic gunfire and seen so many drug deals go down right out in the open, often within sight of Police, as I have seen and experienced in New Orleans. Never have I ever been to a place where the local population tried to separate you from your money, one way or the other.

New Orleans' image has forever been tarnished in my eyes. I wouldn't go back on a bet.

21 posted on 07/31/2006 5:52:06 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

What image was there to tarnish?


22 posted on 07/31/2006 5:54:29 AM PDT by lost_sovereignty
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Don't they mean the deaths just shine up the image we've always had of New Orleans? More deaths, more heat, more city that should have been allowed to sink.


23 posted on 07/31/2006 5:55:02 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Quilla

One time in New Orleas East I stumbled across someone's shotgun in their backyard. There's only one reason to keep a weapon outside the house. The guys who were hanging around in the frontyard went and re-hid it as I was working. New Orleans crime problem is from the eople who moved into it a generation ago. Most all the true New Orleanians no longer live in New Orleans.


24 posted on 07/31/2006 5:55:45 AM PDT by Bogey78O (<thinking of new tagline>)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Wonder what this writer of this article meant by "tarishes N.O."

N.O. has always been tarnished, and we seen how much during, after Katrina....


25 posted on 07/31/2006 5:56:38 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I'm shattered, I thought NOLA was just about whores, drugs, earning beads, and voodoo.


27 posted on 07/31/2006 6:05:23 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (More and more churches are nada scriptura.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Shootings Tarnish Image of New Orleans - This past weekend, 6 shooting deaths in 24 hours

Just how does this tarnish NO's image? Since the image is that of a corrupt crime ridden welfare $hithole, this simply continues to confirm what everyone already knew.

28 posted on 07/31/2006 6:07:06 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
tar·nish (tärnsh) v1.To dull the luster of; discolor, especially by exposure to air or dirt.

I don't believe the word "tarnish" adequately describes the current state or condition of New Orleans. I prefer "status quo".
29 posted on 07/31/2006 6:07:57 AM PDT by Arcy
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To: Puppage
How can you control who moves where in the USA?

Patriot Act IV: National ID, internal passport, background check before moving to a new jurisdiction, etc. It's a Big Easy to do.

30 posted on 07/31/2006 6:08:53 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
three brothers and a friend were killed several blocks away from the French Quarter..

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Hey it's a chocolate thing Baby. You wouldn't understand.

31 posted on 07/31/2006 6:09:33 AM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: JimRed
If these are only druggies killing each other, maybe it's not such a bad thing.

I'd be quite surprised if this is anything other than that. New Orleans' murder statistics have had a high "good riddance" factor for as long as I can recall.

It was common, particularly near the public housing areas, for bystanders to be wounded or killed when this sort of violence flared up. Fortunately, those housing projects are still closed. The city is being sued by HUD, IIRC, to compel the reopening of the public housing developments.

That'd be a fine way of ensuring that the maximum amount of criminals can return home. The plaintiffs and their attorneys should have to live across the street from the worst of those places.

There's a new ingredient in the gumbo pot these days, too: Hispanic gangs. Six people killed in one day is bad, even by New Orleans' standards... but if there's a "homegrown thugs vs. immigrant gangs" rivalry thing going on, the bloodshed is just beginning.

32 posted on 07/31/2006 6:09:58 AM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: stevierae54

Because if the cops found it inside the house they have you dead to rights. If it's in a backyard you can claim someone else ditched it there.


33 posted on 07/31/2006 6:18:47 AM PDT by Bogey78O (<thinking of new tagline>)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I went to law school at Tulane (obviously) and lived in Nola for 10 years. This is par for the course. In 2000 there were 500+ people murdered in a city of 500,000. It was almost all black on black crime.

I now live in Northern Virginia. There are 1,000,000 in Fairfax County alone. Less than 100 muders in the last 2 years...hmmm....


34 posted on 07/31/2006 6:21:05 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Charles Martel

If these are only druggies killing each other, maybe it's not such a bad thing.
I'd be quite surprised if this is anything other than that. New Orleans' murder statistics have had a high "good riddance" factor for as long as I can recall.
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Unfortunatley, that is incorrect. True, the people doing the killing are often drug dealers or career criminals. But the sad fact is a lot of innocent people (including tourists) get killed or injured (at the very least, mugged at gun point).

It is a way of life in Ciudad de Chocolatate.


35 posted on 07/31/2006 6:24:14 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Tulane
I now live in Northern Virginia. There are 1,000,000 in Fairfax County alone. Less than 100 muders in the last 2 years...hmmm....

It is obviously the availability of guns in Northern Virinia that causes the high murder rate in New Orleans. This is simply following the "logic" of the black democratic "leadership" of DC, since they blame guns in Va for murders in DC. Since guns in VA cause murders in DC, why not in New Orleans too?

36 posted on 07/31/2006 6:26:53 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: DungeonMaster

NOLA murders...we need an immediate ceasefire to break the cycle of violence.


37 posted on 07/31/2006 6:27:46 AM PDT by dogcaller
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To: from occupied ga

LOl...too true. Give it time, maybe they will blame the guns in NOVA for the crime in NOLA. Clearly though, the root cause of NOLA's problems are the Bush administration and it's white hot (pun intended) hatred of black people. Condi Rice, Colin Powell, and Clarence Thomas notwithstanding.


38 posted on 07/31/2006 6:32:39 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Thermalseeker

The only city I've been to that really reminds me of New Orleans is Port Au Prince, Haiti.


39 posted on 07/31/2006 6:36:29 AM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I want State Police and National Guard troops in Houston. Mayor Bob-White wants federal tax dollars for local police (so he can continue to syphon off local taxes for his property rich buddies).

If we are going to have a high violent crime rate (and we do) and if he is going ot blame it on Katrina (which he does every time he's in front of a press pool), then I want accountability FOR those police.

A friend of mine was shot last month in a drive by downtown and it got ZERO press. Not billed a hate crime or anything. Guess because it happened in the billion dollar "entertainment district".

I guess they'll let crime continue to "get out of hand" (by slacking off) so that we beg for a police state. Actually we already have that in town because the focus is on "revenue generating" fines instead of crimes with victims.


40 posted on 07/31/2006 6:42:43 AM PDT by weegee (Call Ted Kennedy's office and tell them you would've called 10 hours ago but couldn't get to a phone)
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To: Tulane

Yep. Dary Davies (of the Kinks) was living there and shot in the leg for pursuing a purse thief.


41 posted on 07/31/2006 6:46:32 AM PDT by weegee (Call Ted Kennedy's office and tell them you would've called 10 hours ago but couldn't get to a phone)
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To: JimRed

When the country needs an enema to correct any type of problem, the tube needs to be inserted where Canal street terminates at the Mississippi River in NOLA.

However Blacks terminating Blacks has to take place somewhere and they seem good at it!


42 posted on 07/31/2006 6:49:28 AM PDT by tiger63
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To: Tulane

"In 2000 there were 500+ people murdered in a city of 500,000. It was almost all black on black crime."

203 actually. No need to double the actual number to get a point across. 203 is plenty.


43 posted on 07/31/2006 6:55:54 AM PDT by nolaw0ady (come for the funeral, stay for the pie.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I'm sorry, but after the Katrina looting and the bestial behavior exhibited by some of New Orleans' denizens, it's going to take more than a couple of mere murders to tarnish THAT image.


44 posted on 07/31/2006 7:14:19 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Tulane
Unfortunatley, that is incorrect. True, the people doing the killing are often drug dealers or career criminals. But the sad fact is a lot of innocent people (including tourists) get killed or injured (at the very least, mugged at gun point).

Well, of course. There have historically been "innocent bystander" victims, too, but right now there aren't many innocent bystanders or tourists around (certainly fewer around historical high crime areas). There was a high "good riddance" factor before Katrina, and the probability of the same is even greater now. If these victims turn out to be tourists, or wealthy Uptown residents, then I guess things really will be getting back to normal, sad to say.

New Orleans' economy is more... concentrated at the present time. Fewer restaurants open, fewer convenience stores, etc. Targets of opportunity are therefore even more likely to draw criminal attention. It's an ugly scenario to be sure, and one which the criminal justice professors will be dissecting for decades to come.

45 posted on 07/31/2006 7:15:43 AM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: Richard Kimball
The only city I've been to that really reminds me of New Orleans is Port Au Prince, Haiti

Lagos Nigeria? Except Lagos is about 10 times bigger than NO.

46 posted on 07/31/2006 7:18:21 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Bogey78O

"Because if the cops found it inside the house they have you dead to rights. If it's in a backyard you can claim someone else ditched it there."

That makes zero sense. First, it isn't illegal to own or keep a shotgun in your home in NO. Second, there is no direct way to tie a shotgun to a shooting (no ballistics test). Third, your fingerprints are going to be all over the gun anyway in most cases. The only reason to store a gun outside a house is if you need fast access to it when you're in that location.


47 posted on 07/31/2006 7:47:31 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: JimRed

Those particular scum receptacles never left. It's hard to loot and pillage from the seat of a bus heading for Houston.


48 posted on 07/31/2006 8:03:23 AM PDT by Dionysius
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

The vast majority of crime in New Orleans is black on black crime. There are some robberies and burglaries that victimize white people. But, for the most part the black drug dealers are shooting other black drug dealers. It is extremely rare for a tourist or average citizen to be shot and/or killed by these thugs. If you don't buy or sell drugs in N.O. you don't have much to worry about. Occasionally innocent neighbors of these fools get killed; but, not very often. Call me a racist if you want. I am just stating the facts from the local newspapers and TV news.


49 posted on 07/31/2006 8:11:45 AM PDT by jamaly (I will never forget 9-11-01!!!!)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Shootings Tarnish Image of New Orleans -

Shootings reinforce image of New Orleans..

There I fixed it
50 posted on 07/31/2006 8:14:36 AM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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